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Nomos Finally Nails the Neomatic (408 10.1.26)

Published on Tue, 13 Oct 2026 03:11:00 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of the 40 and 20 WatchClicker Podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss recent watch releases and industry trends. They cover a diverse range of watches including Louis Vuitton's surprising Monterey ceramic models, Squale's collaboration with underwater tech manufacturer Galeazzi Artiglio, and Earthen Company's impressive ceramic field watches priced under $1,000. The hosts express particular enthusiasm for Nomos's Club Sport Neomatic World Timer Dark edition, which Everett argues may be "the greatest value in horology" at $5,760.

The conversation also touches on releases from Christopher Ward, Nizumi, Formex, Citizen, and Omega. While praising many releases, they offer constructive criticism of Formex's new Airfield pilot's watch, suggesting it feels lazy compared to the brand's typically innovative offerings. The episode concludes with "other things," where Andrew discusses Andrew Zimmern's "Wild Game Kitchen" show on Netflix, and Everett enthusiastically reviews a set of mini pliers from Japanese tool manufacturer Tsunoda that he purchased through a Japanese eBay retailer.

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Everett Go. And I will now. ha ha. That's so funny, Andrew. It's so much better. I was like, something is wrong here. It was it was ca youseurs was like like r right here.
Andrew Was just in range. Yeah. So it was kinda picking
Everett me up, but I was like, this isn't right. Okay. Um and then I'll mute and then I'll mute these two. Okay, I'm gonna mute these two and we're going to go live. Sorry about that.
Andrew Yeah, it happens. Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts,
Andrew you're just not gonna fade it out again?
Everett It''ss f fadadinging out out. It so good.
Andrew It didn't do any fading. It's
Everett I mean it's almost silent now. Is it still full blast? Well now it's silent.
Andrew But there was no fade. It would just remain the same volume.
Everett I faded it out. It was faded just fine.
Andrew Oh boy. Let me grab another thing to crack open. I'll be right back.
Everett Ha! Do you have a seltzer? Yeah.
Andrew That's what I'm having. Yeah, I don't need to drink. It'll be open long enough, it'll get warm before I
Everett can even keep your keep your music on, I'm gonna get some nicotine.
Andrew Okay. Don't stop your recording is
Everett what I meant to say. That's what I understood,
Andrew yeah. And
Everett yeah, it totally faded out that time by the way.
Andrew Alright, well I won't mess it up this time. Yeah.
Everett Just I I can I can fix it in post, so whatever happens, just roll with it.
Andrew I need the cue though. I know.
Everett I know. Um okay.
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 and 20, the WatchClicker Podcast with your hosts Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett Andrew, I'm so good. I'm so good. Feels like this feels I have this deja vu feeling.
Andrew You know, sometimes that happens from time to time, and it's weird that we are the only ones who get that deja vu experience. Um, though I would imagine that a lot of people who are sitting in their car hearing us ask each other about each other's days and weeks, they get the similar feeling of deja vu while you wax poetic on being busy and working a lot and baseball and whatever other things that uh that you do.
Everett I don't have anything to say to you. I've got I've got absolutely nothing to say to you at all. Andrew, how are
Andrew you? Uh I'm good. I'm enjoying fall weather. Uh you know, it was it was cold this morning when we went outside to to take the kit, or when I went outside to take the kids to school. We I guess we went outside, but uh it it was cold enough that as I I like opened the door and I was like, Ooh, I wonder if I should grab a jacket and it kinda dawned on me all at once. I was like, Oh yes, fall is in full swing. We're a couple of weeks into football season, like actual football is starting. Uh, and man, I just couldn't be happier. I love this time of year. Um, I really uh wish I could have gotten out to But you know, we'll save that for for next year.
Everett And or it's chorcoat weather.
Andrew It I would I would describe it as chorcoat weather. It's
Everett chorcoat weather, which is one of my favorite seasons. That season's that season where you get to wear your chore coats who have been just waiting
Andrew patiently in the closet,
Everett their pockets just empty and sad.
Andrew They're probably not empty in in all like sometimes you have sometimes you get
Everett a chorecoat out and you're like, oh that's where that was.
Andrew Yeah, I I typically find some Pepto tabs and coats that haven't been worn in several months. Oh,
Andrew that's where that that's where that full pack
Everett of Zins was. Yeah.
Andrew Damn it. I knew somewhere. I usually keep good track of 'em. Like how on earth? Oh, yeah. 'Cause it I left my jacket in the truck for a year. Uh yeah, yeah, good.
Everett Yeah. No, it is. it's nice. This is a nice this is a nice time of this is a nice time of year.
Andrew Yeah. Um yeah.
Everett I I mean I guess that's all really I have to say about that. Do you just want to go straight in, just like like raw dogging into watches?
Andrew Whew. I'm not accustomed to that. Uh and to be honest, it makes me a little bit uncomfortable. Um but I guess
Everett when in Rome when in Rome. Do
Andrew as the Romans do. Yeah.
Andrew Yeah, let's I I guess we can do it.
Andrew I think the the time honored tradition. Um why don't you could have started?
Andrew No, I don't ever I no, I
Everett don't I that's Oh you don't terrible idea.
Andrew Oh, because I came unprepared. Louis
Everett Vuitton. oh,
Andrew Louis Vitten. Louis Vitten. Uh
Everett surely we've talked about Louis Vuitton on the show before, right?
Andrew Um, I know we have because Louis Vuitton has done some interesting stuff in the watch world in the last couple of years. And it's kind of started acting like they're maybe uh they maybe give a shit about their watch division uh in in a way that some of these other luxury brands who drop watches don't
Everett yeah i i mean louis vuin obviously famous for all sorts of things. I would not put watches French. I would not put watches all that high on the list of things Louis Vuitton is famous for. Clutches, maybe?
Andrew Bags. Bags. Bougage. Packages,
Everett boxes, and bags. Turning
Andrew people into douche nozzles. Last
Everett year, Louis Vuitton released a uh a revival of their Monterey, uh, which was a small hundred and eighty-eight-piece run, priced at sixty thousand a piece. And And it was I think popular. I think that is the right word. And it either was sparked by or it sparked sort of interest amongst amongst people with disposable funds in historic Louis Vuitton watches, particularly the L V1 and L V two watches. Um
Andrew stands for Hard to say.
Everett Almost impossible. So
Andrew now Louis Vuitton has
Everett introduced a set of two watches. They're calling these the Louis Vuitton Monterey ceramics. These are not part of a limited edition, which suggests these are part of a regular collection. And they are what it is, it's a 37 millimeter pebble, is what it is. And it's gorgeous. We've got skeletonized syringe hands. Um, really a study in color, which I think for a brand like Louis Vuitton was surprising to me. It was surprising to me that these watches came out as they did. So um what we have is two ceramic pebble watches, a black pebble, 37 millimeter ceramic, with a very crisp white dial with black and red accents. And then this lovely green ceramic, sort of a, I don't know, like a dark jade green.
Andrew Yeah, kind of foresty.
Everett With white and yellow accents. We've got skeletonized syringe hands. These are just Very cool. These are very cool.
Andrew Yes. What did you think? I mean
Everett when you saw these, what were you I mean, what was your like give me your like first five second reaction.
Andrew Initial reaction is I love a bullhead. Uh and a three-hand bullhead is interesting to me. And the next reaction was trying to reconcile this as a Louis Vuitton watch. Because Louis Vuitton is so frequently uh in your face Louis Vuitton. Like if you have a bag that bears his name, it bears it ten thousand times all over the outside of it. Like these are brands that are known for just unabashedly covering their products with their logos. And nothing about this says that to me. This is like an interesting, very vintage looking, very subtle, simple, clean design. And that's why I say I think it like Louis Vuitton seems like they maybe give a shit about their watch division because this is a good watch. And what really got me excited about this is that it's it's expensive, okay? It's a luxury good, but it's twenty-two thousand nine hundred money, non-limited run. Uh the I don't I I'm having trouble with how much I like it.
Everett Yeah. Lacquered dials on these, yeah.
Andrew Uh the shape and dimensions are good. So these are the the case itself is 11 thick on that polished ceramic case, white or green lacquer, uh acrylic indices on this, 30 meters of water resistance.
Everett Autom automatic in-house automatic caliber.
Andrew Yeah, forty-five hours of power reserve and
Andrew it's a thin movement too. It's uh five point four millimeters thick on the movement.
Everett Yeah, it is not stunningly thin, but it is it's a nice
Andrew fermenter. I mean come on, that's no Grand Saco can't get that shit right. And that's what they do.
Everett Yeah. Uh yeah,
Andrew I'm I'm perplexed by how much I like this watch.
Everett Yeah, it kind of felt like a sleeper. No, I will make I I don't know if this is a correction or maybe a quibble with you you called this a bullhead. I think I would call this a twelve o'clock crown. I think a bullhead's gotta have horns like a bull. It's like a
Andrew chronograph. Like with But there's
Everett no chronograph, right? It's three hand with the twelve o'clock. No, it's
Andrew twelve o'clock crown. Okay. yeah. Whatever.
Everett That's a that's a minor quibble. Minor quibble. I really like um it's this has got two concentric circles, right? So it's got like a um I guess a minute track inside, but then also a minute track outside. I just think this is a really attractive watch.
Andrew Yeah, they the I have no sort of
Everett hobnail, like two hobnail rings on the crown. I this just feels to me like a really well executed now it it's a lot. Twenty two thousand nine hundred bucks, twenty three grand for this. Um, which of the green and
Andrew yellow has like Joey Harrington era duck uniform vibe.
Everett Ooh. You're so right.
Andrew But the uh the black and white, that's where it's at for me. The orange hands with the blue second hand, the color the the orange minute track, I think just because of the light looks just slightly lighter than the orange on the hands, but I suspect that it's actually the same color. Uh really where are you seeing
Andrew this orange? I'm not I'm not seeing the orange.
Everett I'm not seeing it. The
Andrew orange minute track the
Everett Yeah, I'm not sure.
Andrew On the minutes? On the green one? No, the the white one.
Everett Oh, on the white one. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's orange. I it it looks red to me, but yeah, I guess you're right. It it's for orange. Yeah. yeah. Yeah,
Andrew I think I I don't know if it's sort of a
Everett tomato tomato red. yeah, I'm with you.
Andrew Yeah. I was looking at the green. Yeah. But then the then the the logo at the 12 o'clock is just printed Louis Vuitton Paris, Fabin Suisse, like everything is just simply stated. Like it's
Everett feels more it feels more subdued than it has any right to be. Like it it they really kind of nailed a nice balance here.
Andrew A and it's not just because it's Louis Vuitton. I think any any brand puts this watch out, any any print at that twelve o'clock inside the the twelve o'clock or inside that inner s concentric circle is totally fine with me. The fonts on the on the hour hands are great, like or on the hour markers are great. Like this is I'm confused.
Everett Yeah, I I like it. I saw this and I was just immediately like I it was like, you know, okay. Yep. Yep. I it you know of course twenty-three grand it's like all right. Um but the I mean
Andrew anybody else releases this watch for 23 grand it doesn't make sense, but Louis Vuitton does and it it does make sense.
Everett Yeah. Yeah this is a good watch.
Andrew Yeah, that was a good uh when you when you picked it, I was kind of surprised and then I I because just kinda scrolled past it. I saw the name and I didn't really look at the watch. And then when you sent me the link, I opened it up and I was like, ooh.
Everett Yeah. Tickle me more. Yeah. One of it was one of those one of those I saw and I said, Yeah this is different this is not what I expected it's not what I would expect well what's next
Andrew oh I I have a good one I have an interesting one uh so the I'll be the
Everett judge of that um I
Andrew think you're gonna have an opportunity to to do something that you really like to do when we talk about this watch. Uh Squala has introduced the Galeazzi Artiglio uh collaboration watch. So uh Galazi Artiglio is a famous art I think it's Artiglio because in Italian G's often go away. They they're like just a placeholder for a sound, right? Or is it Artiglio?
Everett You know, I think Artiglio is right. I do think it's squale. Which will get you in trouble. Which will get you in trouble. But I think you're right on Galeazia Tilio.
Andrew I can only get so many right. That two out of three in another language is I I feel pretty okay with sticking that landing uh d's get degrees my man uh so anyway this collaboration watch is between squale and guy galeazzi artilio which is a famed underwater tech manufacturer, uh Dras Galeazzi. Um, and this company was a pioneer of deep water exploration. Um Um and created a uh an underwater like a shipwreck recovery vessel in nineteen thirty-two. So uh how would you describe this blue? Because I this is something that I know you really like to do. You like to describe the blue. Um, so you're here, here's your chance.
Everett Oh, good, good question. I am gonna describe this as a as like a deep indigo.
Andrew I was gonna go with like Pantone two ninety-five.
Everett Shh get the fuck out of here.
Andrew Uh so what we have here is a very like true to style vintage dive watch, um 39 and a half millimeter case, 47 lug to lug, 13 to thick, flat sapphire crystal, at a 2824 movement, 600 meters of water resistance. Here's the the kind of a bummer with this. It's limited to 500 individually numbered pieces, but it gets cooler. So this um pretty simple, very squale feeling watch has super squale
Everett feeling. Yeah what? I said super squale feeling.
Andrew Yes. Like that nobody else can, you don't need to see the log It has a wet indicator at the six o'clock on the dial. So uh you know the functionality of this is if water starts to seep into the case, uh the little pad on the wet indicator changes colors so that the person underwater knows that things are getting bad for them, or at least their watch. Um and though it's not uh you know a super important uh piece of technology. It's just an interesting little uh little detail that adds a ton of depth and dynamic, like things that you're just catch your eye on this dial that's looks really fun. It could have just as easily been like a small seconds at the six o'clock. So we've got this. Um sorry, remind me of the color blue you said he thought it was.
Everett I think it's I'm gonna say indigo.
Andrew Okay. Uh we've got this great indigo with a color matched bezel, orange on the minute hand, silver, kind of silver gray hour hand, and then a silver gray second hand. And this is just
Everett good. It's good.
Andrew It's a fun, in interesting, like historically inspired design, uh made with a really interesting historical diving organ or dive technology company. Uh I think it's a great collaboration to see like
Everett and we've got like two two tone loom on this too we've got we've got blue on the hands and then green on the dial and bezel markers and
Andrew oh which is fun yeah yeah uh I also it it is Pantone two ninety five. That's the that's the the real name for the blue.
Everett Two ninety five U, right? Yeah. Yeah. Uh it is it's nice. Uh you know, I I
Andrew you want it on a bracelet? No, well, yes,
Everett I do want it on a bracelet. Come on, canvas or
Andrew rubber. What I was gonna say is I
Everett feel like Squalate is a brand that could really like start pumping out fantastic dive watches and I think their own design language, their own historical dive dive language is holding them back. I think that I think that Squale is a company that could benefit from somebody in-house who is plugged into the watch world differently than they have been. I I uh because they're making really cool stuff, but it just feels like they're just slightly like outside of what I want.
Andrew I think they're kinda like nomos. They're just doing their thing. They're comfortable doing their thing. But
Everett you know what? Nomos is doing a thing that I can sell. I'm not sure like I like come in come come into it as a third-party consultant salesperson, right? I can sell gnomos. I can sell gnomos. I'm not sure that the that the sales pitch for squale is quite as clear. I mean I I
Andrew the language is all there. maybe Nomos was an inappropriate uh uh parallel.
Everett Yeah. I think they're just good
Andrew with what they're doing. Gnomos seems like almost
Everett absurdly plugged in. Like despite the f you know, we've said it on the show, right? Gnomos is doing a thing. Nobody else is doing what Gnomos is doing. Really, in watches. Nobody else. At that price, nobody. uh Squalate, I feel like is at the same price as Nomos with a watch that I'm way less interested in. You know
Andrew Yeah, and and they are still using I mean they're using good at a movement. I mean a twenty eight, twenty four isn't with the elaborate grade. There's no it's nothing to sneeze at. But you know, they're not. But
Everett it's not a three and a half millimeter in-house fucking made in Germany, you know.
Andrew Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. they're certain certainly there. But I I like this. I think this is a cool collaboration.
Everett I just I I do think Squale could I think Squale could could benefit from having somebody in the house who's like, look guys, this is what you need to do um
Andrew should it should it be you are you that guy are you or is this your your audition reel for squally
Everett you know I I I accept.
Andrew We'll send it to him when we're done.
Everett Um what do you know about what do you know about earthen Company?
Andrew I know nothing about anything, typically speaking. So when it comes to a company that I I've never heard of, and I don't I'm surprised I've never heard of it, but um very little. Please enlighten me.
Everett Hong Kong Company introduced last year with some interesting releases, um with a stated mission to release watches that would that would be as interesting as any watch and would cost less than a thousand dollars USD roughly. and I don't know th that's the legend here. I don't know if that's exactly what they said. but stated mission roughly to release very cool watches at or below that thousand dollar price point. Um and and so l last year they came out with a what they called this. That's
Andrew like the the s like inflation rate on watch brands that launched in two thousand sixteen.
Everett That's right. Like we're gonna do the coolest watches
Andrew for under five hundred bucks. So they
Everett came out with the Summit collection, sort of uh interesting. Everything was very interesting. We had modern ceramic and and so they've continued to sort of evolve, and now they've introduced their summit mark two. Uh their summit mark two, which is which is cool. Um still we've got ceramic. Uh still we've got really sort of digest. I'm gonna say digestible. That's the word that I think. When I see these watches, I think these are digestible watches. Uh and I don't mean like if you eat them, they're going to break down in your stomach. I just mean like I see these and I'm like, yep, I I got it. I I'll wear that.
Andrew Palatable is maybe the a better word.
Everett Yes. You you're maybe not wrong. I'm gonna stick with digestible just, because that's what I went with originally, and I don't want to give up on it. Um
Andrew I don't think no, you're right, palatable.
Everett Okay. Um and and so for the first time, we've gotten, you know, earthen's release in twenty twenty five very monochromatic. For the first time we've got color. Earthen is like, you know what? Let's give these, let's give these folks what they want, which is color. And so uh no longer just the straps colorful. That was sort of Earthen's thing. We're gonna have these very monochromatic watches with colorful straps. Now we've got the whole the whole damn thing. So we've got blue ceramics, we've got beige ceramics with orange accents. Um man, we've got green. Green, that's right. So um, these are all three watches joining the permanent collection. And as promised, these come in at 899 bucks. And I'm kind of here for it. So we've got this like uh I'm just gonna say, for me, the winner of this group is the blue on blue, blue ceramic, blue dial, um, sort of a beige chain. We've got black with this really lovely green and very white markers. And then
Andrew bloomed green too. Yeah, for the blue.
Everett That's the that's the one for me. yep, yep, yep. And it's a great a and and then we've got this sort of I don't know, like sort of OD desert tan thing with kind of crazy,
Andrew flat, dark earthy, uh um
Everett I saw these and I thought you know it's rare I think it's rare th the last time I remember feeling like this was like whoa how are they doing this? Was with Kuame Tokyo, right? When Kwame Tokyo hit the scene, I was like, How are they doing this? How are they releasing these watches? Uh I I kind of think that they've done it again, that that Earthen has done that same thing for me here with these ceramic watches, really lovely, but not audacious field dials. I'm gonna say a field to dial. Um
Andrew yeah. Man,
Everett I am really, really okay with these. I'm really, really okay with these.
Andrew I I'm kind of excited to see what colors
Everett Miyota 9039s in these, by the way. I if I say that. 100 meters of water resistance. they're 10 thick, eight point eight without the crystal
Andrew Ah this I mean come
Everett on how you what do you want about the company?
Andrew for me is that it's a it's a pretty unknown brand. It's a it it's basically it's a brand new brand. It's under two years old. Um
Everett two years year and a half. Yeah. Uh
Andrew I I think that's that's the only the only hard selling point here. Everything else is money. what material are these just
Everett ceramic? They're ceramic. Ceramic cases. Sapphire crystal, ceramic cases, thirty-ighte millimeters, forty-five millimeter lug to lug, ten millimeters thick, ninety thirty-nine, hundred meters of water resistance.
Andrew Yeah, I don't think I mean I don't know how you how you'd actually do better.
Everett I like it. the color ring,
Andrew so the crown has got this split uh on the vertical axis. Uh the blue one doesn't have any any uh
Everett it's like a tan is
Andrew it tan yeah I think so oh but the uh the green and the brown have a have a band of color right in the middle of the crown. I think the orange accent on the brown one is like really really liking it. I hope that the loom the the the green is a loom ring on the crown. I'm with you. I'm with you. It looks like it should be. The blue one is tan.
Everett It matches the it matches the markers.
Andrew Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. There it is. Okay. It's hard to tell 'cause of the light and the way that that cut is in into the crown. But that makes that makes more sense. Yeah.
Everett Yeah. These are good. These are interesting. And I love the fact, I mean, this could very easily be a $1,500 watch, $1,600 watch because of the I mean, just ceramic is such an exotic material and folks are just you know starting to get really comfortable with the use of ceramic in this way. Uh eight hundred ninety-nine bucks.
Andrew I think this maybe is it marks that the industry has become comfortable enough manufacturing with ceramic that it can be done affordably.
Everett Yeah. No, it's a good company. It's I think that's that's
Andrew the turning this is the ceramic turning point.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Or evidence
Andrew that that the the tide has shifted on it being exotic and now it's um you know what's that stupid metal that a couple watches were made out of recently that we talked about Dilemma is the next hot thing. Because ceramic is bored now.
Everett what's next, sir? Oh.
Andrew We have a Christopher Ward anniversary
Andrew edition. So Christopher Ward has dropped their C1 Jump Hour 15, which is a 300-piece limited edition 15th anniversary watch, to their first in-house complication. They've made some updates to the to the the C10 that they first released. So now it's 39 millimeters. It's in a light casser light catcher case. Concentric geoche dial. Running on the JJ01 movement and a uh it's a it's a module dropped on top of a Solita uh a Solita foundation for their jump power and this comes in uh uh two colorways and and really two different design, like two different dials, it looks like. Is that what I'm am I stupid or like
Everett no different dials. No, that's the update. It's just
Andrew side by side. So this is the update. Much more refined. Um thinner on the on the minute track, still jumping hour at the 12 o'clock, uh running minutes, a great blued hand on your running minutes, uh 38 hours of power reserve. Um and here's here's the winner. It's $2,700 on a bracelet. Just Chris Ward doing Christopher Ward shit and dropping, you know, some high horology at really affordable prices.
Everett Yeah, I mean this this is probably
Andrew it's one of my least favorite Christopher Wards, but
Everett That's exactly what I was just gonna say. You
Andrew know, the whole artillery line or Atelier line, whatever they want to
Andrew call it. Um none
Andrew of those scratch my itches man i i don't care about
Andrew as cool as the belcanto is i don't care as much as i love a venturine i don't care. i don't care about these
Andrew like jumping hours and and most of the cool shit that Christopher Ward is doing because
Andrew it just doesn't do it for me. The
Andrew reason I care is because Christopher Ward is moving the ball in such a meaningful way in this really hot horology space and making things like this accessible that previously were five figures. You know, w what's the next the next most accessible jumping hour out there.
Everett Well, I don't know. Last year I think there was a few seven of them.
Andrew To get one that Gio style, this refined, with the magic of the light catcher case, i they're just they're doing something special. And I think this is cool that they're doing a 15th anniversary to celebrate their first in-house caliber uh with a a module that they've designed in-house to make a jumping hour.
Everett Yeah. It's a good release. no doubt about it. There's nothing for me to like point to and say this is what's bad about it. It's I think it's just the part of Christoph's lineup that I'm least interested in.
Andrew Yeah. This is my like I said, my least favorite Christopher Ward watch, but I still love that it exists.
Everett Yeah. That's right. That's right. Um
Andrew slurped me. I wanted to talk about this. Well,
Everett I'll let you talk about it too. Can we both talk about it? Gnomos last year released the Club Sport Neomatic, which I think almost universally
Andrew It's I think that's the name of all their watches, the Club Sport pneumatic.
Everett Almost universally the whole entire world agreed this is the best nomos that's ever been released.
Andrew Uh yeah, I mean it I it's
Everett like uh it's like a unanimous Hall of Fame selection, right?
Andrew Yeah, first first ballot. First ballot.
Everett Um and you know, I think when we talked about this on release, we said, you know, I think that the only sort of like the only thing that feels is missing is like uh a a straightforward option, right?
Andrew Yeah. Like we're missing just sort of like
Everett a simple option. I want this like a
Andrew gnomo's option. Like what's going on?
Everett Um and so I don't know that they've totally fixed that. And yet I I think in some ways they have. So Gnomos this last week released what they're calling the
Andrew Well they're they listen to our show and a lot of their design ideas are inspired by our
Everett straight from the scratch. By our conversations. The gnomos club sport neomatic world timer. Dark. Dark. Dark. Um with upgraded and a redesigned loom with a sort of glossy bottom, you know, depth of the sea inky black dial. So here we have a sub-dial and a
Andrew way you describe colors and a and
Everett a world timer track that are both loomed giving this some giving this some shine some shine. Um and and a really a little bit of
Andrew modernity in a like otherwise pretty vintage feeling,
Everett yeah. Vintage color way. Like
Andrew it it's an interesting way to add a splash of like gnomos' v
Everett Yeah, that's right. Um and and otherwise this is just a uh otherwise this is just a pneumatic world timer. Uh which is to say, gosh, one of the greatest watches ever made. nine thick, forty millimeters wide. Um obviously we've got world time, we've got uh you know that single pusher at two o'clock, screw down crown,
Andrew uh uh twenty hour
Everett hand on the subdial at three o'clock. Sapphire 100 meters of this is la la la la la. And five thousand seven hundred and sixty bucks. In-house movement. I mean this is like this is
Andrew it if someone came to me and said Everett
Everett Everett I want the greatest value in horology right now. I don't care at what price, I don't care how much it costs, I don't care what it looks like. I want the
Andrew stupid statement. The greatest value
Everett in horology is this watch. It's this watch. Maybe the Bel Canto. The really close. I think it's this watch.
Andrew I think it's a watch that is entirely handmade. The entire movement is carved by a fellow with a desk at his nose and
Everett No, because that watch is going to be one hundred and fifty thousand bucks.
Andrew Because you said money's not a thing.
Andrew It doesn't matter. The greatest value. The greatest
Everett value. The greatest val valueue.. the cost doesn't matter, but I want I want the best value.
Andrew Okay. I I I don't I don't know if you're
Andrew I don't have legs to stand on the bottom.
Everett You could say, well, uh uh what's the uh Obama uh watch the uh
Andrew F ninety one. F ninety one. I mean maybe
Everett that's the best value. But it's funny,
Andrew I call it the bin Laden watch. They're
Everett the same. Um the the the reality is the reality is if we're talking about horological value, I don't think there's another watch that's doing quite this much in this level of package. Like I said, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm just gonna give a nod to the Belcanto. I think a maybe a very good argument could be made there. But I can't think of anything else. Those are the only two for me. Those are the only two in the conversation. I and and frankly I think it's this one, because I just think it's a more interesting watch. It's a better watch. It's a better watch than the Bel Canto.
Andrew Uh you know my favorite part about this dial?
Andrew This three o'clock 24 hour subdial doesn't cut out the markers.
Andrew It looks almost like the markers are
Andrew floating above it, but they're actually just applied over that subdial.
Everett It's fantastic. Uh and it
Andrew takes a minute to recognize what's happening, but it adds a really interesting depth without sacrificing any millimeters in dimensions. I'm with
Everett you a hundred percent on this, Andrew.
Andrew I I've been staring at it and it finally clicked what I was seeing. I was like, oh, there it is. That's what I love. Because so often you see these subtitles cut out markers. Uh or they do something weird. Um no, I I don't like I don't think you're wrong about this being one of, if not the best, but I think best values in watches, but I think that kind of goes for most of the gnomos collection because they're they're in the w they're in the conversation as affordable watches and they're doing it all in-house in a way that nobody else is doing under five figures.
Everett Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
Andrew Yemma's maybe like maybe there but not in the same way.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Not in the same way. yeah. I mean that's
Andrew fantastic. Yama is a very immature
Everett version of Gnomos, right? Like Normos Gnomos was born in a tuxedo collecting social security.
Andrew Yeah. Him
Andrew and the Monopoly guy and Mr. Peanut hung
Andrew out like uh Yeah,
Andrew this is this is fantastic. And the the dark w was exactly what this collection needed. This is one of those watches that you look at. It's kind of like for me, it has sort of the same effect as like the um
Andrew the Zen 903. Like just
Andrew the more you look at it, you're like, God, I think I I think I need
Everett this. This isn't like a, this
Andrew isn't a want, this isn't a desire. Like this is a a required piece of my life that I'm um I'm currently missing and
Andrew and need it need it yeah
Andrew to be whole yeah yeah yeah I'm
Everett with you a hundred percent what's next
Andrew oh gosh I, wasn't prepared for this. I'm still uh uh I'm
Everett gonna make you go anyway. You're
Andrew like you're just just powering through. Oh, I want to talk about Nizumi, a brand that we haven't talked about in a while, and a brand
Andrew that I've always really, really loved. And
Andrew I've I've loved them for several reasons.
Andrew One is they make really well-specked affordable watches just every time. They're vintage inspired, they're play with colors is fantastic. Um, this is like some designers who figured out how to make watches and do it well and design watches, right? It's not like watch designers, it's just like actual designers who figured out how to do something cool
Andrew rather than like draw pictures like
Andrew weirdos. Loki Nazumi like
Everett goes back to like the earliest days of 40 and 20. You
Andrew know, so does Nomos, like first 10 episodes guaranteed they'll both these brands are
Everett sure. This is one of those brands that was like right at the four we were like, Whoa, that is cool.
Andrew Mm-hmm. That whoa whoa. I still look at the
Andrew Baleen pretty regularly and I'm like, man, I think I just need to get one already.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Because I love that dive
Andrew watch. Um, but it it it does all the things that I love in in a watch brand. it's a very um It's modern interpretations of vintage designs, and this has all of that. This has very uh vintage inspired colorways with a very 60s, 70s design aesthetic. So the vouture VM2 uh racing chronograph um there was a VM one that was previously using mecha
Andrew quartz. I don't remember what mecha quartz me what they were using. I I
Andrew I'd guess the VK64 because that's what everyone uses.
Andrew Yeah. But
Andrew now pardon me.
Everett What were those noises that you made? Uh
Andrew they were farts. Oh okay. Yeah. But from my mouth. Uh it's a weird way to do it, but it's how I like it. Mouth parts. Um, I lost my
Andrew train of thought. Okay, so uh what
Andrew we have here is a 40 millimeter case, 47
Andrew lug-to-lug, 12.9 thick,
Andrew with the crystal. It's only 1111 millimeters thick sands crystal
Andrew using the peacock sl 4801
Andrew automatic chronograph movement with manual winding, hacking, 55-hour power reserve, 50 meters of water resistance. Just a no bullshit, great chronograph, and the colors on these are just fun. There's two colorways available: um, there's a black, gray, and orange, and a black gray and white. The black gray and white is fine. Yeah, I think it's great. I think it's
Everett great. Oh
Andrew man, this the the black gray and orange accents. So what we have here is kind of like a surfboard uh orientation of the of the tri compacts, but the colorway kind of surfboardy with cuts into it.
Unknown Yeah. Very modern. Like I don't I don't
Andrew know. It's like a very modern design
Andrew feeling dial that feels out of the 70s. Uh, right? Like you could see this watch on any sitcom in the 1970s and be like, oh yeah, that fits. That makes perfect sense. Um great pushage on this. You know, the cases uh have just like this gentle twist on the lugs that are just fantastic. Uh I can't say enough good things about this watch until we get to
Andrew how much it costs and Nizumi
Andrew staying Nazumi staying in this affordable world. Uh 902 Euros excluding VAT on a bracelet.
Everett How do they do that? How do they know?
Andrew We're I'm like we're really hitting on these
Andrew classic affordables that we uh that we really cut our teeth on and and Nazumi's still doing it. You know, eight years since we started talking about them on the show, they're still doing the thing in a meaningful way. This is fantastic. I love this watch.
Everett No, this is uh this is a fantastic release. This Nizumi um Is a player, man. They're a player. You know, this this watch has always been a mega court, which I you know, unfairly or not, allows us to sort of disregard it. Well, no longer. Mm-hmm. No longer shall we disregard this watch.
Andrew This is this is in the best chronograph in my in my conversation list. This has just entered into the best chronographs at or about $1,000.
Andrew Really attractive, really well,
Everett really well spec'd. Yeah, you know, I don't actually know a lot about this peacock movement, but I'm feeling I'm feeling so confident that it's good that i'm like just buy this watch just buy this watch someone needs to buy this watch
Andrew and send it to us yeah you don't have to give it to us so we'll we'll maybe give it back.
Everett What's the deal? What's the one that that that grease back? Go ahead. Sorry.
Andrew But the the bulk with the orange is is just it's scratching. It's getting that itch right in the middle of your back that you kind of have to like lean against the wall to s to stretch your arm to reach it. You know that spot. The bear in the
Everett forest. The bear in the forest itch.
Andrew Yeah that's uh it's that's scratching that itch for me. This
Everett case back is crazy. God
Andrew dang. This is a good watch.
Everett This is a good watch. This is a good find too. I this is at escaped my notice. well done, Andrew.
Andrew They they're usually on my radar.
Andrew Sniff them out.
Everett Uh Formex?
Andrew Oh. Formex,
Everett which is not a prophylactic brand, come to find out. Rather, it is a watch brand. A watch brand that is near and dear to my
Andrew prophylactic in that you spend
Andrew all of your money on watches and she's not interested. Near and
Andrew dear to my heart, um
Everett I I'm not gonna bury the lead. This watch is I'm not gonna call it a miss because they didn't miss anything. But it is a little weird to me. Right? I'm just gonna not gonna bury the lead. This is a weird release. So Formex has released a Field watch. And in doing so, they have made a few changes. They have made a few changes. Notably, the counterbalance on the second hand is now an airplane and it's become a pilot's watch. So is it because
Andrew of the airplane? What just
Andrew happened? I think
Everett what happened is exactly what we think happened. I think that formex released a pilot's watch, which is effectively a field watch, except that it's got an airplane on the counterbalance for the second hand. And we've got and we've got updated, we've got sword hands. We've got sword hands also. Um, and they're calling it the airfield. Look, I I love, I, I love Formex. I I unapologetically love Formex. The Essence is I mean, personally owner of the Essence, one of my favorite watches. I wear that thing. and you will not convince me that it's not one of the greatest watches that's been released in the last 10 years, 15 years.
Andrew I I think it's one of the best watch releases of the decade.
Everett It is one of my very favorite watches on earth. I am not a four-mx hater, but this watch is so absurd to me. I don't understand what we're doing here.
Andrew I think Formex doesn't understand what they're doing here.
Andrew Because Formex has been historically this brand that's on the cutting edge, like the very bleeding edge that it gets filed off in the next sharpening of pushing the envelope of technology and of seeing how much technology they can represent in their releases and how cool it can be. This I like this
Andrew w this case. Uh
Andrew it's a familiar Formex designed case. Um
Andrew and that concludes the things that I like about
Andrew this watch as a form X.
Everett So we've got I think another brand
Andrew drops this watch. I'm probably okay with it. But this is so
Everett far. That's right. But this is
Andrew so much so far out of their identity, right? this
Andrew feels like a a Braymont release, right? It's just it doesn't make sense with respect to the rest of their
Andrew catalogue. A hundred Andrew,
Everett that's so funny that you said that. I I saw this and I was like, this feels like a Brayman release. So this is the titanium field automatic architecture that you're very familiar with. Um and and again, we've made a few very subtle changes and we're calling this a possible i in a vacuum, there's I think maybe nothing wrong with this.
Andrew Nope. Slender watch, we're
Everett 10 and a half thick. We've got good water resistance. I mean, it's gonna be a fucking banger. This watch is gonna be a banger. It just to me, it's like let's make a pilot watch and to convince everyone it's a pilot watch we'll make the counterbalance of the second hand an airplane.
Andrew it feels lazy. It feels like a Hamilton release, right?
Everett Where Hamilton's like, oh, we' gdotta do another special
Andrew edition. Uh let's just change the strap color and do a new case back.
Everett Price is right on this. Leather for twelve hundred, uh, nylon for ten sixty. I mean, there's nothing wrong. In a vacuum, this is a great watch. I I I do think that For Max can and sh uh do I say should? Maybe should I think that's a good better here. Uh this
Andrew feels lazy. Yeah. And
Everett again, love these guys. Like uh uh have I've I've eaten pizza with these guys
Andrew very drunk envelope with an unknown amount of money in it.
Everett at 2 3 in0 the morning and like these are friends. And so it's hard to criticize friends like this, but I don't this is not the most exciting watch release of the year for me, by the way.
Andrew I I really like the black on brown leather. But it's because I
Andrew like this case and I like that I like the black dial. But as you
Andrew dig into it, like I just I don't
Andrew understand the plain counterbalance. I don't understand like
Andrew Again in, a vacuum, great watch, right?
Everett Great watch in a vacuum. Yeah.
Andrew Like make this a type B and
Andrew and you're good, right? Like don't
Andrew don't just drop an airplane on it, right? And I have
Andrew nothing, I have no problems with airplane counterbalances.
Andrew The Nighthawk is one of my favorite watches of all time.
Everett Yeah. It's not the airplane. It's
Andrew that the the airplane is what made this the pilot's watch. And that's not that's not that.
Everett Yeah. uh I I think if you saw this watch and you're like, I like that watch, you should get this watch and it's gonna be a great watch. This is a great watch.
Andrew You're not wrong to like it. I just
Everett want them, I just want more.
Andrew I think we've come to expect more. I think because of Formex's hard-hitting success up to this point, we've come to accept more. So when they give us what anybody else would give us and we'd call a slam dunk, it's not like we're not impressed because we know they can do better and because they have done so much better
Unknown correct co correct
Everett correct Do you want to go?
Andrew Do I need to take a break? Is that what you're saying? I can take a little breather.
Everett Just keep going. Just keep going. What do you got?
Andrew I don't have anything that's interesting anymore. I'm just heartbroken.
Everett Do you have any so no I do I do
Andrew have another thing? Okay, go. Not another thing. I
Andrew I obviously have one of those. Uh but I the next watch I want to talk
Andrew about. Um Citizen is really po pouring into the Soyosa very much in the way we saw
Andrew TISA with the PRX and
Andrew I think it's because of how much ass Tissot put into the PRX, Citizen is putting similar amounts of ass into the Soyosa, and they have just upgraded the 37mm case to their 60 hour power
Andrew reserve movement. I think that's really cool.
Andrew The colors are um exactly what you'd expect at a citizen. We have a black with a uh stamped guillosh, a uh mint ice cream colored green. Uh and then a white with uh a a gold excuse me, a gold case bracelet hands uh on a white dial that looks almost like there's maybe some gold accents in that Guiosh. Um but yeah they've brought their 60R power reserve into the 37mm. Uh I I like this watch at 37 a lot and I think upgrading the movement is is obviously the right choice. If you have it available to you, definitely do the thing. Um I like
Andrew it. I think it's a good upgrade. It's an exciting
Andrew upgrade. I like seeing citizen do things that make sense when so often they're doing things that just don't.
Everett And Omega released seven new references of a redesigned 38mm Speedmaster.
Andrew Uh but I really like the
Andrew new 38mm Speedmaster.
Unknown That's the I didn't like the the previous
Andrew one. Uh this is more this is almost this is true to the the true size speedmaster, the forty one or whatever it is. Yeah it doesn't there's no delineation now in design between the two. It's just scaled down. Which is how it should have always been.
Everett Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we've gotten rid of the oval subdials and we've got a lot of
Andrew rectified the error. Yeah, we've got a Speedmaster.
Everett Um and I think they started like sixty seven hundred bucks for the for the Blackverse.
Andrew So wild. Five years ago, eh, maybe not
Andrew five. Uh at pre 2020
Andrew you're into a uh speedmaster for five grand.
Everett Yeah. Maybe used. Another
Andrew what's that? Maybe used, yeah. Yeah, but I mean you're you're not getting
Andrew into a used Speedmaster in good condition,
Andrew like you your kit,'re not getting into that for
Andrew under nine these days. Is that right?
Everett Yeah, I think I want to say I paid like forty three hundred, forty four hundred for mine. I
Andrew know basically hit by a car.
Andrew So I guess he paid you know in blood. Um Yeah, I like
Andrew these. I've always I've always liked the Speedmaster reduced because it it just
Andrew feels better on the wrist.
Andrew Um and I'd actually now that um have I've started having a little bit of a fling with the Speedmaster would kind of like to try on side by side
Andrew especially now that there's an updated
Andrew uh design on it. I think that could be the maybe the the trigger to
Andrew get a reduced. Because the r every time I've
Andrew worn a reduced, it just feels better. Andrew,
Everett other things, what do you got? Oh we're going
Andrew to that. I guess we are, yeah. Uh okay. Um hang on. I'm closing links.
Everett Close them links. Um,
Andrew I started a new show. Um I was scrolling Netflix tiles this week, and I saw Andrew Zimmern uh with a tile that said Wild Game Kitchen. And I thought that was interesting. Cause um I didn't realize Andrew Zimmern was like a outdoorsman. Right? I've always thought of him as like a fine dining food network type dude. Uh turns out that's not the case. So it prompted me to do
Andrew like some background understand like research on Andrew Zimmern
Andrew and see where he came from. And dudes, dudes
Andrew had a ride. Uh like fell into the pit of of drug and alcohol addiction and was homeless, and then started cooking at his homeless shelter where he lived, and then got a break at a restaurant, and then just kind of meteor media uh meteoric rise from there. That's a good
Everett idea. Meteoric is
Andrew an avid outdoorsman and hunter and Fisher. So the show that he has on the outdoor
Andrew channel of all things, uh, which blew me away and is now featured on Netflix. I think there's I don't remember how many episodes, is
Andrew him cooking on a live
Andrew fire outdoor grill, just things that are delicious. Uh in like
Andrew with his fine dining experience and
Andrew background, but doing it in a really accessible way, that you're like, oh, I could I could do that and
Andrew it wouldn't be that hard now the grill
Andrew that he's using I had to
Andrew look it up it's from a company called uh fuegas
Everett fuegas. f I think it's Fuegas.
Andrew F U G Fuegas.
Everett I accept. Uh Brazilian
Andrew or Argentinian grill. Yeah, they're like 10 grand. Um uh doesn't matter.
Andrew Uh but it's this like beautiful grill
Andrew to watch him working on uh and he's making just fantastic looking food. It's fun.
Andrew they're short episodes because it's outdoor channel. So it's
Andrew like 22-minute episodes of him
Andrew just cooking some of the best looking
Andrew food. Uh and I didn't realize how much I loved Andrew Zimmern because I always like I remember him from Bizarre Foods or Bizarre Eats or whatever. Um I
Andrew Googled when did Andrew Zimmern get cool?
Andrew Uh and apparently he's just always been this way. Uh he just was, you know, neck deep in his weird food show. Um,
Andrew but it's fantastic. the recipes are really
Andrew accessible. He uses a lot of
Andrew wild game, uh, but then also a lot of
Andrew things that are really accessible that you could go to the
Andrew grocery store today and recreate these recipes even without using a live
Andrew fire grill. Like you could do it stovetop
Andrew and make a lot of these things that are delicious. He did a whole pa or a whole cow's head for tacos. Oh.
Everett Showed like how to break down a a whole cow nugget.
Andrew Um bunch of different like just it's a cooking show, right? So it's all recipes. It's right, but they're all they're all simple and accessible and they're just it's taking some of the fear out of doing some of these bigger
Andrew uh bigger
Andrew projects. I
Everett like it. I love it. It's kids
Andrew love watching it with me because he's cooking outside over a fire
Andrew and looks
Andrew delicious. Uh
Everett and I want some of that meat.
Andrew I do too. Yeah. Maybe not any Zimmer meat specific
Everett Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Uh I got another thing.
Andrew Doomy. I
Everett um yeah. uh
Andrew have you have we talked about the
Everett Japanese brand Sunoda on the show at all?
Andrew Um maybe. T S U
Andrew N O D A. Yeah. Tsunoda.
Everett Not Yuki Sunoda, not the the Formula
Andrew One driver, the uh tool
Andrew brand? The tool brand. Sunoda Japan.
Everett So Tsunoda is a Japanese brand of it's a tool brand, but they make in particular um they make pliers very, very good pliers. As far as pliers go, they're very well finished, they've got good actions. I mean these, are I would say these are comparable to um when we talk about pliers, you know, like the very nicest sort of Klein or perhaps channel locks right up there with brands like Kinepegs. So Sunoda makes pliers. They made it. Uh better. Certainly better. So anyway, I was I I don't know exactly what prompted this, but I have a drawer. I have a toolbox drawer. And I said, in this drawer, I need to have some mini I'm a mini plier set. And so I uh uh I went looking, I went looking for a mini plier set. Was it as
Andrew you you filled your I'm imagining this happening in real time?
Everett Yes. You assemble your your toolbox,
Andrew you move all of your tools into their respective places, and then you have a drawer that was unoccupied. And
Andrew you're like, well, man, what do I put in here? Not
Everett entirely unoccupied. it and you're you're not wrong that that's more or less what happened, but but imagine this happening over the course of like months as opposed to just like an afternoon, right?
Andrew yeah. Um but yeah,
Everett no that that's right. I had I I was like this drawer, this drawer here, based on like what this drawer is in my tool it needs some mini players. I need mini players in here. And I didn't really know what I was looking for. I I really wanted a set of small needle nose. But I thought, you know, it would be fun to have like a set. And I kind of started to look and I I didn't really find anything I liked. And then eventually I got clued into a set. It's not a set. And they don't sell them as a set. And that's part of what made this difficult. But I got clued into three pliers being sold by Sunoda that are all matchy matchy. I'm gonna call these matchy matchy, Andrew, which is to say these are all roughly 100 millimeters, nay four inch, just just short of four inch flyers.
Andrew I like measuring things in millimeters. 100 millimeters
Andrew sounds way better than four inches.
Everett A hundred millim a hundred millimeters and I got a um so this set this set that I've had to create uh which is not available in the United States by the way, I am going to provide Andrew with links to eBay because that's the best way to get these. Um, we've got a pair of diagonal cutters, we've got a pair of combination pliers, like side-cutting combination pliers, and then we've got a pair of needle nose pliers. Each of these in this same hundred millimeter format. And it, you know, I thought I I I've played with small like jewelry pliers or whatever. Like I've had small handles. blue
Andrew handle, yellow hand handlele, green. These are
Everett all these are all blue handles. Um and I got these in and I was just blown away. I was like, these are the nicest things I think I own. They're just I just love them. And I don't really have a good use for them, Andrew. I'm gonna admit that. I'm gonna sneeze.
Andrew I was uh I had my dead blow
Andrew hammer and uh one of these I was banging
Andrew on the handles of these trying to release something the other day.
Everett Of these these mini blowers.
Andrew Yeah. They just seemed appropriate for the task.
Everett Andrew came over the other day and said, Do you have tools? And I was like, Oh yeah.
Andrew Yeah. There was more of that, but
Andrew uh yeah, whatever. Um
Everett yeah. Uh they're great. These are just it and you know what? I think for the full set, so you know these come from Japan, so you're gonna have to pay some shipping. But I got all of mine on a Japanese eBay retailer, Ninja Tools, Japan. I bought a lot of tools from Ninja Ninja Tools Japan. It is probably up there with top two or three Japanese specific eBay eBay retailers. Um and if
Andrew do they sell also like ninja weapons and stuff?
Everett Uh I you know I they maybe do. I don't think so though. Um But the nice thing is, so each of these is like 15 bucks plus $20 shipping. However, if you if you message them, there's a combined shipping option, you can say, hey, I'm buying all three of these things. They will refund you the shipping for two of 'em. So basically you just pay
Andrew Oh. You just pay the one shipping.
Everett So um w that to say, I got these all for like sixty bucks. And they're Are
Andrew these are they like a a secondary retailer?
Andrew Like they just buy shit from the hardware store and then sell it. Like they buy it at wholesale
Andrew and sell it on eBay. That's right. Yeah, that's
Everett exactly right. That's exactly right. Side hustle.
Andrew So they're making great money because they're probably just they're
Andrew just drop shipping it. That's right. JDM tools
Everett straight from Japan. Um and if you go through, I mean they've got so this says they've got six thousand five hundred and six six oh no. How many items do they have? They've I mean it's a bucket load. It they've got uh a bucket nine thousand nine thousand seven hundred and seventeen items and and it's like ninety percent JDM stuff. And you go through here, I mean if you just click sellers other items, it's all of these like JDM, can't get them, Mary, um Sunoda, uh Three Peaks, Fujia, Engineer, um, Lobster, all these brands that are huge in Japan that you just cannot get. And it, you know, it depending if you know what you want, you can get like four or five items, pay the one shipping fee. Uh it's awesome. It it's awesome. Yeah. and Makita's JDM stuff is actually kind of rad. But uh yeah, these are really cool. They're tiny little pliers. That's what my other thing for the week is tiny little pliers.
Andrew Oh, okay. Good to know. They have Kinnepex on here too.
Everett They do? I think that there is JDM Kinepex stuff.
Andrew Huh. Yeah.
Everett Yeah. I'm just gonna link to their eBay
Andrew store. Perfect. I'm not gonna link to your pliers
Andrew and cares about your pliers. Boo.
Everett Alright, well if you want to know the pliers, message me.
Andrew I'm not seeing any ninja weapons. I haven't seen a throwing star or I think
Everett they sell tools. Those are
Andrew the tools of a ninja. I don't know what you want from me here, but no smoke grenades.
Andrew Hmm.
Everett Hey folks, thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20, the WatchClicker Podcast. Website, watchclicker.com. You can follow us on social media at 40 and 20 underscore watchclicker or at watchclicker both on Instagram. If you want to support us and oh boy, we hope you do. You can do that on Patreon, Patreon.com slash 40 and 20. And uh yeah that's that's actually how we we keep this thing running. Uh and uh yeah, don't forget to tune back in next week for another hour of Watches Food Drinks Life and other things we like.
Andrew Bye-bye.