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Seiko Has a Good Week (401)

Published on Thu, 16 Jul 2026 22:47:40 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of the 40 and 20 WatchClicker podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss recent watch releases and personal updates. Everett shares about his family's new puppy named Megatron, while Andrew complains about the summer heat. They dive into several watch topics including the innovative X-Band Smart Strap, a smartwatch clasp that fits onto standard 20mm watch straps for $279. They also cover the Eric Wind and Rowing Blazers collaboration with Seiko, featuring rally diver designs in 38mm and 42mm sizes.

The hosts discuss Studio Underdog's O2 Series Gen 2, which features a slimmer case and the new Sellita SW200-2 Power Plus movement with 63 hours of power reserve. They also examine the Oris Divers Date in olive green, Temporal Works' Series A Rambler (a field watch inspired by the Patek Philippe 565), and IFL Watches' koi fish collaboration with Citizen's Tsuyosa platform. The episode takes a personal turn when Everett reveals his midlife crisis purchase: a 1976 Yamaha XS650 motorcycle bought for $500 that needs electrical work after its wiring loom caught fire. Andrew remains skeptical about whether Everett will actually ride it, predicting he'll restore and sell it instead.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 and 20, the WatchClicker podcast with your hosts Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things. we like Everett. How are you?
Everett I'm doing alright, man. I'm doing alright. It's been uh it's been a longer week than we normally go in between recordings. So I feel like
Andrew Yeah, we had some we had some things come up this week and just
Everett sat down in a while. But yeah, I'm good. I'm good. There's a uh there's a I don't know if I've talked about it, but my we got a puppy.
Andrew You're going to Europe? A couple. I
Everett did talk about that. I
Andrew don't know that you have talked about it on the show. In fact, it was like it it took me by surprise. You sent a photograph of an animal that I did not recognize. And I was like, wait a second, is this is this is this living with you? It's it seemed like the decision making process was was brief.
Everett Oh no it wasn't it's been happening for a long time. I've just sort of been I I I'm sort of anti right and it's not because I'm anti-dog or it's not because I don't love puppies or I'm not
Andrew gonna whole nother responsibility. That's
Unknown right I'm not that falls on you. Why are we
Everett doing this? Why do we why are we gonna create this? Anyway, that's a different story. Uh, but we did get a new puppy. My it and and so the deal is my wife's sister has bred these puppies. She uh bred her dog with another dog, and then they made puppies, nine of them.
Unknown They just put them in the backyard and so get to work.
Everett You know, I don't actually know. I think it was slightly more um I don't know if professional is the right word, official than that. There was like a
Andrew candles and music. Maybe,
Everett yes. I think there was like a drop-off and like a period of time. It was like a matter of days where her dog was not there and was at just getting porked. And did they do a
Andrew DNA test to make sure the dad is the dad that they think it is?
Everett Yeah no, I don't think maybe I don't know. So these dogs are um they're half um half cavalier uh uh cavalier spaniel and half poodle. They're cava poos. Do you know what that is?
Andrew I do because you have one. Okay, I guess. And I saw her over there the other day, or maybe yesterday or two days ago.
Everett Yeah. Uh with a couple of them
Andrew frolicking in the front yard. Right. Okay.
Everett So that's the deal. Because this is my wife's sister because this is Kim's sister that has the dogs, oftentimes there is more than one puppy at my house. Which I have to admit, not the worst thing in the world.
Andrew No, a puppy party is not the kind of the peak party situation.
Everett Especially because like by and large they're not mine. There is the one that's
Andrew they leave and and they're adorable. They weigh like eighteen ounces.
Everett That's right. Uh so uh our puppy is, I think, the runt of the litter. And I want to say she's about seven and a half pounds right now at 11 weeks. Uh I don't
Andrew believe that she's seven and a half pounds. I
Everett I think that's the official weight. Is it? Yeah, I think that's the official weight. And she is just a little puffball. Uh and her name is Megatron.
Andrew It's super fitting.
Everett Which I also really like. Uh yeah, and then right now we've got uh Megatron's big brother and he probably weighs twice as much as she does, which is interesting. Um
Andrew Huh. Yeah. But she kinda kicks
Everett his ass too. It's like 'cause she's Megatron. Cause she's Megatron.
Andrew And he's a little bitch pup. That's right, he's
Everett Bowie. Stupid
Andrew Bowie. Yeah. Uh anyway,
Everett no, super fun. So I'm doing well, Andrew. Uh how are you?
Andrew I'm good. I'm just you know chugging along. Taking taking one day at a time. Uh it's hot all the time right now. And it's not even that hot, right? We're getting into like the high eighties every day. That's like about 20 degrees higher than my like
Everett was than my top end comfort zone. Yeah.
Andrew So you know And I love it.
Everett 83 is like my favorite thing in the world.
Andrew I I will tolerate if I have AC. Only if you have AC like
Everett if I can sleep at 68 and be in like 80 all day.
Andrew Uh no, 75 is like my top end comfort zone. And that's with air conditioning in my residence and car and basically every time I'm outside.
Unknown Yeah. Uh yeah, no, I like I I do like the warmth.
Andrew No. So it's it's just been a little a little hotter than I uh have enjoyed. So I just like kind of feel sluggish all the time and
Everett Yeah, fair enough. Uh but you know
Andrew what? It's not Texas. Uh and I think about that all the time. The first summer I lived there, we had a hundred consecutive days over a hundred degrees.
Unknown Oof, and for those
Andrew of you doing the math, that's more than three months uh of just every day over a hundred degrees. And I I remember at the end of that August, I was like getting reverse seasonal affective disorder in that I would come home from work and turn the tap to cold and pour hot water out because the groundwater was so hot and I was like sad and depressed and I just wanted to feel cold. Like the water out of your like the coldest shower you could take was still a warm shower.
Unknown Yeah. Uh I would go to stores
Andrew that had beer caves so I could go in inside their beer cave and just stand and experience cool air.
Everett You know, we're we're about six minutes. I don't
Unknown know if I've ever told this story on the uh on the pot, but when I was in the army for a brief period of time. I was like a jag that was attached to a cab unit. And we did a rotation at the National Training Center, which is at Fort Irwin, which is sort of like sandwich in between uh death Valley and the Mojave Desert. Anyway, it is the
Andrew Mojave. It's very fucking
Unknown hot. Uh so y you know, in the summer. And I was there at end of July. So you're
Andrew that's one does. I don't think anyone's ever gone there outside of the month of July. N D
Everett C in February? Nah.
Andrew July. Uh
Everett so you know, it's like uh, you know, a hundred and ten to a hundred and fifteen if almost
Unknown every day, like a peak temperature sort of in that range.
Andrew And at night it gets down to 90.
Everett And it's a you know it's a simulated, it's a simulated um you know it's basically like an extended patrol, right? So
Unknown you leave like cantonment, the
Everett sort of quote unquote base area with the Burger King, and you pass through the gates and you're in country, right? You
Unknown are you know they prohibit you from having
Everett cell phones. You're like totally detached
Unknown from the world. Well, my rotation,
Everett somebody somebody
Unknown screwed up and we couldn't find the ice. So
Everett there's ice. We know there's ice, but we couldn't find the ice. So what we had was water
Unknown buffaloes baking in the sun all day. We
Everett had no cold. There was no cold in the lot in our lives. Everything was hot. And I'm I think in the middle of the rotation, I wound up. I was a judge advocate, right? So
Unknown I'm not fucking doing anything important.
Everett And so at one point in the rotation, this photographer who I knew comes through and he's like, hey, I'm trying to get to the the tank the tank range,
Unknown and I'm like, Yeah, I'll take you. I don't know where
Everett it is, but I go grab my OC and we like are driving up this ridge, and we get to the tippy top of this ridge, and uh you know, I find out I'm about to see like a big firework show, a
Unknown military firework show, which is awesome.
Everett But then I see this uh I see this Humvee on the back of the Humvee, there's a
Unknown one of those orange Igloo Gatorade containers.
Andrew And the OC is like like
Everett kind of nods at me. He's like, go ahead. Go ahead. This is a no-no, right? Not supposed to do
Unknown that. This is the knowest of no's. But I get
Everett a nod from the OC, the observer
Unknown controller. They're basically like safeties and
Andrew yeah right that's yeah yeah they're range safeties uh judges
Unknown he he gives me he gives me a nod and so I go over and I
Everett I can still remember the feeling andrew as I pulled that as I
Unknown pulled that lever, I
Everett could feel like the
Unknown the little pops of water
Everett coming up the cold water. And this is like
Unknown day six, right? You'd
Everett like just gotten there. Wow.
Unknown Day six, no cold water. I mean you
Everett change your perspective pretty quick. Anyway, so like I feel this this cold gosh, I will never forget that feeling. And then I think the next day they found her eyes. They're like, oh we found we found the eyes.
Andrew I remember I I would I would do um I think daily uh 20 foot box like reefer box because I had a I had a reefer box in my uh company.
Unknown That's not weed by the way you guys. Uh
Andrew and we it was a refrigerated container unit. But I had a reefer box and I would do daily ice runs when we were in the field. So we'd go through fe2et0 of like a 20 foot container volume of ice every day.
Unknown Yeah. Uh out in the training areas of Fort
Andrew Hood. But that's, you know, that's for like a
Unknown battalion size or maybe even a brigade size. It was a battalion.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I was
Everett in a headquarters unit. We had ice, we couldn't find
Andrew it. It was just your reefer box was just sitting alone, chugging away.
Everett That's right. Chilling your ice. That's
Unknown right. Uh anyway, that's that's
Everett my story about being cold after being
Unknown hot. Um to add on to your story. Andrew, uh I think it's about time that because we're not here to talk about ice
Andrew ice and hot uh no
Unknown we are we are here to talk about. I have a thing, and
Andrew this is an interesting thing. And and I actually wait,
Everett wait. Oh, sorry. I want to get a star.
Andrew Go ahead and cut that out.
Everett As if I edit. Do you want to get us started? Yes! Oh my
Andrew gosh. I have something that uh it's not often that something like this comes out that actually kind of catches my interest and gets me excited. There's a lot of interesting things that happen in the watch world. We the we there's four let's say four, there is six hundred hours
Everett of us talking about talking about the
Andrew interesting things about uh the watches or the watch industry. I think
Everett they're about to be pretty close to that. We're episode
Andrew this is 401 or 402. Yeah 401 we assume they're all uh an hour and a half
Unknown roughly uh so that's
Andrew 600 yeah I'm not like a wizard or anything. But that's how math works. This is something that really piqued my interest. The X-Band Smart Strap. It does the smart work for your So here's what got me interested. Here's like what what grabbed me. I think there's always there are a lot of really good arguments to abandon mechanical watches in favor of smartwatches. I think there's as many arguments in favor as there are against. In so much as there are people who dual wrists so they can wear their smartwatch and their mechanical watch. I think there's more arguments against that type of behavior than there are in favor of it. But this very intriguing thing resolves that for a very small window of watches. So what we have here is an X band where the clasp is the smart device. And it comes with a cut-to-fit FKM rubber strap. And it does all the things that your Aura ring or your Apple Watch or take your pick of smart devices, like smart worn devices, do but replaces your but lives in place of your watch clasp on FKM. I can't speak to the quality of the FKM. I'd just say just from looking at renderings and even product photography, it looks like it's gonna be pretty good.
Everett FKM is FKM, right? Like I think dimensionally you get some variation of flexibility. Like
Andrew but these are nice and thick. These aren't like weird thin flimsy FKM. Uh they look to be the right thickness, the right texture. The clasp itself is uh it says 44 millimeters, but I I think that could be accurate. It look, it's gonna be a long class, I think, initially. Uh, but for what you're getting, which is the smart wearable device that fits flush against your wrist because you can cut to length your FKM strap. So you get a custom fit smart device that you can swap out onto all of your 20 millimeter lug watches that comes in four different colors. I think I would have preferred like an all-steel option, but it looks like there's just the four color match to the strap rubber color in white, black, orange, and green and so reading this I'm like oh man this is gonna be either like a dud and cost nothing or a dud and cost a bucket load. These are 279 bucks. These are gonna be available on Kickstarter. I'm intrigued by this.
Everett Yeah, I I'm gonna make a prediction. It's gonna be
Andrew a bust. But I'm intrigued. I
Everett I don't think it's gonna be a bust. I I think that this I think that they'll sell enough of this to make it viable. Uh I I do actually I think this is pretty clever. I'm gonna make a prediction though. My prediction is specific that Gen 2 of this device has a GPS uh because that going through the specs, so you've got um you've got a heart rate, sleep, blood oxygen, stress activity monitor, uh, you've got 40 quote unquote sports mod modes, uh, you've got um an accelerometer, which it is interesting and kind of fun. That's
Andrew probably how it's capturing your step count.
Everett That's right. That's how it captor captures activity, movement tracking. Um you've got temperature sensor, obviously. Uh y you know, you've got a lot of clever things, but I I think that I think that you know you're not gonna get sort of compatibility with Strava or whatever because it doesn't monitor it doesn't monitor GPS. That's my that's the one thing I read that I was like, you know, that is I think a miss here. And and it could be that they couldn't squeeze it in. I think
Andrew to hold it at 279 for initial offering, I think you can't squeeze in GPS.
Everett Yeah, and I don't know, but that's my prediction is the Gen 2 of this or or perhaps an upgraded version of this comes with the GPS. Cause I think for me to make the leap, like I don't care about like how did I sleep last night? I know. You know how I know
Andrew poorly. That's how I slept last night. I
Everett know. Um, so I you know, I and I know a lot of people are very sort of data-driven when it comes to this kind of stuff, and they really like that's a big part of their life is is tracking that sort of stuff, especially in 2026. But for me, that's never been the appeal. In fact, the only smartwatch functionality that I've ever thought I really would like to have this on a regular basis is GPS. It's the only one. Um, I don't want text messages on my watch. I don't, you know, although I can see the the utility there, right? It's just not something I'm interested in. The only thing I've ever thought of
Andrew being able to ignore my phone. Yeah. You can't you can't say, Oh, I didn't see it if it's attached to your wrist.
Everett The only thing I've ever wanted out of a smartwatch and I've I've ever thought, gosh, that would be so convenient, was GPS. And so and maybe I'm in a minority. I I'm certainly not alone in that. I
Andrew think we are in a minority. It could yeah, it
Everett could it could be. But that's my prediction is that Gen two of this comes with a GPS.
Andrew I think and I think the only part of that that I disagree with is that I think Gen 2 is probably expansion into other sizes.
Everett Oh, sure, maybe. And then we
Andrew see future iterations that include GPS. Uh, because they need to test viability here. And I think this is a really interesting way to capture those people who are kind of fence riding and perhaps the dual wrists. Uh oops, smack my microphone.
Everett Now I will say we're looking at some renders that have a curved end.
Andrew Yeah, it it is this
Everett gonna be it, but then but then other renders other renders that show a straight end obviously a straight end is is the play here. Um, but I wonder if I I didn't actually look at the Kickstarter in depth, but I wonder if that is you know, if there's gonna be
Unknown enough draw of this for them to
Everett say, well, here is a submariner shaped end link, which which you know that would be the first play, right? Because that gets
Andrew to captures everyone who wears a sub.
Everett Well not only that, but there's a lot of watches that there's a lot of watches that come out with nearly identical dimensions for obvious reasons. So they want to get into those ecosystems. So
Unknown there are people who do that? Uh there are Monta
Everett is the one I think about. Yeah. So anyway, we shall see this. I actually I'm kind of into it, Andrew. I think it's pretty
Andrew clever. I'm really intrigued by this. It solves a problem that didn't exactly exist, but it it fills a hole in the ecosystem that yeah that did certainly exist.
Everett Yeah I think so there's some interesting
Andrew overlap uh appeal there and it and doing a 20 millimeter cut to length, like I short of doing customizable right uh right out of the gate, that's that's pretty pretty clever.
Everett Yeah, y you know, the the old I I I didn't read, Andrew, did you did you have a chance to look is there um is there g micro adjustment capability here? Because in a perfect world you'd set this to a length and have you know a couple millimeters on either side of that.
Unknown It does not look to
Andrew me like there's micro adjustment,
Unknown but but it's hard to tell because these
Andrew are all renderings. There's no open class photos.
Everett Cause you know but it's a long enough clasp,
Andrew but it really it looks like it has to have
Everett I might need a micro adjustment between like
Andrew noon and four. Between seven thirty
Everett when I put my watch on at four o'clock. Yeah. When I'm yeah.
Andrew When I'm hot. So I it this is
Everett I actually think this is really cool. It's not the type of thing that would normally tickle my fancy. So
Andrew here's here's what it looks like to me. There is ribbing on the bottom third of each end of the strap, uh, with a with a channel hole through. And there are screws. So it looks like depending on how wide those ribs are, that's where you're gonna cut them, and then you mount your strap in into those pinholes. So it does not look like there's going to be any kind of micro adjust.
Everett Well, because it's FKM, you're gonna get a little bit of flex just in I I would you know I my concern here would be, you know, you order and and maybe there's gonna be the ability to get additional straps, but
Andrew you know you get it in
Everett February, and then by the time it's June, you're like, oh, this fucking thing doesn't fit anymore. So anyway, it this is pretty cool. I think it's pretty clever. I'm into it. Uh I I can see some problems, but um
Andrew I thought I saw or at least someone just the rubber. Um
Everett yeah, that that they obviously are gonna they're gonna need to be able to provide
Andrew uh replacement rubber. Eighty-nine dollars for replacement or different color
Everett that's deep rubber but that's deep.
Andrew I I yeah, i it is, but to have uh markers along the strap where to cut.
Everett Yeah. But almost like links. Yeah. I mean it's in it's in the range. It it's a lot of money though.
Andrew Yeah, I mean they're paying 13 bucks for it and they're making some money back.
Everett Yeah, I mean for the rubber component, they're probably paying less than 10 would be my guess at any volume. So
Andrew yeah uh this is clever. I like it. I I am intrigued by it. Uh if if they hold past their Kickstarter launch and can do a gen two I think I'll
Everett yeah where where are they at in
Andrew uh they just where
Everett are they at they just launched on the eighth
Andrew um let's see.
Everett And this is we are linking to a sponsored post. I don't know that we're responsible for telling you that, but um we're not sponsored. We're linking to a sponsored post.
Andrew Uh so it's out of Hong Kong. Um They are at twelve thousand six hundred pledged of their nineteen hundred dollar goal.
Everett Yeah, which is almost absurdly low. Like that it it almost seems like they're using Kickstarter as a marketing platform for an
Andrew like actual funding platform. Yeah.
Everett So well it very interesting. Um we shall see and I don't know, maybe we'll keep you updated. There's a few folks that have taken a look at this. I know random rob, I or I think random rob took a look at this, or maybe maybe I'm maybe I'm conflating this with something else. Uh anyway, yeah, pretty cool, man. Pretty cool. Eric Wind.
Andrew Do you have anything that you'd like to talk about? I
Everett would like to talk about Eric Wind. Oh. Eric Wind and Rowing Blazers have once again collaborated with Seiko for their fourth version uh or their fourth collaboration, their fourth watch collaboration, going back to their sort of original this this sort of staple design, which is to say the rally diver design, which is a a fairly enigmatic design. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it's any
Andrew sense, but it looks really good. Yeah, that's
Everett right. Yeah, that's right. Reminds
Andrew me of like Speed Racer, is is like kind of that that feel.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. It's it feels a little bit like uh yeah, like Japanese for the Western world kind of deal. Um which of course it is precisely that. It is Japanese for the Western world. Um, you know, I I don't actually know a whole lot about rowing blazers. I don't know
Andrew anything about rowing blazers outside of the collaboration watches that they've done.
Everett That's right. You know, I I know they use
Andrew interesting colors. Yeah. Uh and typically like a uh a kind of uh perplexing color palette that for some reason works. This is not that though. This doesn't feel rowing blazers at all.
Everett Uh it it do doeses to to me. You know, th they've sort of got that like take ivy vibe. And it's uh it's fun, you know. But again, I I know nothing about the company. I'm not gonna I've I've never been to I say I've never been to uh rowing blazers as if it's like a store. I don't know. I don't know what it is. I actually don't even know what it is.
Andrew So many of these brands that do collaborations that they they they do worse than us in burying the lead. It's like, oh you've probably heard of this brand. It's like uh am I am I the asshole? Uh
Everett hey Andrew, you need anything I'm gonna head down to the rowing blazers.
Andrew Yeah. I don't know. Maybe that's it.
Everett It's in New York. They've got everything's in New York. Um, anyway. So we've got two watches here, and I and I really like them both. And I think based on your comments that you do too. So we've got a 42 millimeter 5kx uh that comes in blue, and we've got a 38 millimeter 5kx that comes in green.
Unknown I like that. Uh, and it's a British racing
Everett green. Oh Jim
Andrew from Lost is one of their uh ambassadors. Oh
Everett I love Jim. Me too. Hey, look at that fucking guy.
Andrew Yeah, he's somehow way more handsome now than twenty years ago when he was in Lost.
Everett I think he was always a pretty handsome devil. Yeah, but he's
Andrew I mean, there was that whole like he's like Clooney in it right now though.
Everett There was that whole abusive husband vibe to his character, which you know.
Andrew It's a it was a cultural misunderstanding.
Everett Um and both of these colors are great. The blue is like uh I think a just a really honest royal blue. Uh I described the green as a British race and green. I think that's uh accurate enough. They come with they come on bracelets, but they also come with nylon pass-throughs. They these are not fancy, schmancy seatbelt nylon pass-throughs. These are sort of old school, down and dirty, military style nylon pastors. But the nylon pastors come in the opposite color. So if you get the blue watch, you'll get the green. And if you get the green watch, you'll get the blue, which I like. I don't know why I like it, but I think it's fun. Um, we've got rally bezels on both of these. They're just 5k X's. I mean, there's not this is the what Seiko does. They're like, here's this watch that we make and sell a bucket load of. You can use this as your palette.
Andrew You can change the bezel and the
Everett dial. Sort
Andrew of. And you can put text at six o'clock. And and if you really, really want, you may put something on the case back.
Everett Um, gosh, Andrew, what more to say? I I think nothing. Um except that I like these. I think I am you you made a face earlier. You made a face. When I said a 38 millimeter in green, you made a a a a happy face. And I'm with you on that happy face.
Andrew Yes. The green is is good. The blue's good, but a thirty-eight and green.
Everett It's a great size, yeah. Uh I
Andrew I love 38 for this style of watch.
Everett You know, uh so I I do have one qualm about the 38mm 5kx, which is that it does not have the same the the SKX013 had kind of a particular way it did the lugs and the 38mm 5kx excuse-excuse that. It's my only complaint about this watch, uh, which is a really weird complaint. And it's not about this watch, it's about the 38mm 5kx. But
Unknown yeah. Uh can I tell you about rowing blazers
Andrew briefly? Yeah, please. So it is a uh clothing brand and design lab founded by a
Everett design lab. Design lab. Uh
Andrew founded by designer, author, archaeologist, and former former US national team Coxwain. Coxwain? Cox? Coxwain?
Everett Mm-hmm. Jack Carlson. That's the boss of the crew team, right?
Andrew Uh no, that's the uh Oh Oh, the coxsman the coxsman. Coxswain? Coxswain. The coxswain's the collar. I think a coxswain is a
Everett it's a lot of cocks here.
Andrew Vital non-rowing oh yeah, so I thought it was a cox coxswain. Oh, that's how you say it.
Everett Yeah, this is terrific. That's
Andrew not how I would spell it. It's an it's a non-rowing member so it turns
Unknown out a coxwing doesn't exist it's a it's a
Everett concept in your head well it's spelled
Andrew C-O-C-K-S space W A Y-N-E.
Everett Uh-huh. And it's pronounced coxsin.
Andrew Yeah, I guess. Alright. And we're learning
Everett things. That's not how it's spelled. It's spelled C O
Andrew X T S I L W A I N. Uh but I I hear a coxswain. Uh that's I don't know, that's not that word doesn't make sense. Uh anyhow, it's a uh their their whole shtick is uh a a subversive. Subversive? Yeah. Take on preppy.
Everett This is not feel subversive. Nothing about this feels subversive to
Andrew me. A uh, where's the word? They said they uh
Everett D Snyder subversive. Somewhere
Andrew in here it's a very good Eric Wind. Subverting uh preppiness. Uh so it's just uh it's just uh high end uh Abercrombie.
Everett Andrew, I really like that polo on you. It's very subversive.
Andrew Yeah, thank you. Not
Unknown wearing one. You're wearing a 40
Everett and 20 shirt. I wasn't wearing a shirt earlier.
Unknown Uh oh, wow, we've
Andrew derailed. What's next, buddy.
Unknown Ah, who gosh, who knows?
Andrew Um,
Unknown I want to take some time to talk about this. Um, so
Andrew actually, I need to do some digging. Uh, so I'm going uh to London next month. Um
Everett you you're gonna wind up in London. Yeah, I'm
Andrew gonna we're gonna spend a couple days in London. Uh we we already booked our uh appointment at the Christopher Ward showroom. And now I need to figure out how to go to the doghouse.
Everett What's the doghouse? Studio
Andrew Underdogs show that uh happened at the acquisition of
Unknown Yeah, right. I remember. Why
Everett don't you just email email Richard? I'm going
Andrew to. I just haven't. Okay.
Everett Do you want do you need me to make the connection? Do you have his email address?
Andrew I know how to use internet.
Everett Okay, well, like I have like direct I in fact I have his phone
Andrew I don't. Yeah, I might text him. Okay. Um that might be easier. Uh so Studio Underdog has the O2 Series Gen 2. The O2 series. So we haven't seen a lot of iterative design from Studio Underdog. We've seen we've seen new lines, right? We've seen new dials. This is a slimmer case, bigger power reserve, and new colors. This is a whole this is a a a totally new watch in the version two. Generational
Everett iterations is what you're talking about. Right. We've seen a lot of
Andrew new colors. We've seen like some micro changes, but by and large, Studio Underdog's watches have remained pretty true to form.
Unknown We're introducing new SKUs and or new lines but not improving on price. Yeah.
Andrew Not not uh evolving an existing line. So we have new stuff in the O2 series too. And uh, you know, as much as we liked them before, I they have gotten better. 37 and a half millimeter case, 11.5 thick with a crystal, without the dome sapphire 9.4. 9.4. And this is this is
Unknown for a chronograph. I mean, obviously, no,
Andrew no, these are their manual winding three hands. These are the three-handers. So but it's still nine point four for a manual three hand with that sapphire dial. Uh we have four colorways uh that have come out. One really cool black and red with it like looks like a spaceship, like very tranny in the loom uh a oh what what what would you call that blue
Everett oh this is that's a good question for me
Unknown let me not the dark blue with the red with
Andrew the red uh minute track. Oh. This light blue.
Everett Let me put I d I don't have it up yet, I'm sorry.
Unknown Uh we have the traditional like pink lemonade,
Andrew lemon ombre into pink and then a really, really deep Deep. Yeah, this is this
Everett is a periwinkle. That was the word I was gonna choose. But
Andrew I thought I thought you were gonna say cornflower.
Everett Cornflower is much darker than this. You like
Andrew to say cornflower blue. I don't know why. I quite
Everett or is a specific color. This is not it. I'm
Andrew I you know we've we've discussed my
Everett this is maybe a dusty period called
Andrew probable color blindness. Um
Everett there's just enough purple in there to be parrowing.
Andrew I thought I was gonna say parrow or maybe baby's breath. Isn't baby's breath are those those are blue? Those
Everett are those little flowers. They're the little white ones, I
Unknown think. I thought they were blue. Nope. I think they're the toxic ones, the toxic white ones.
Andrew Yeah, like baby's breath. In
Unknown any event, I think I
Andrew think powder blue or periwinkle, depending
Everett on the light. Okay, so what we have here is
Andrew Ste call it Stephanie, by the
Unknown way. Oh, like Tiffany's
Andrew sister. Yes. The hotter, sluttier
Unknown one. Yeah, that's right. Uh the
Andrew red is really good. It's this really full, metallic-y, uh Merlot-y, yeah, like just gorgeous, luxurious red. And then the rest of the colors totally like all these colors make sense. Every every single one of these you look.
Everett Purple that sort of petrol purple is one of
Unknown the new ones, but along with the red and I really like it.
Andrew You just immediately recognize it as Studio Wonderdog. I think this is a really cool upgrade because we haven't seen true upgrades uh ever?
Everett Yeah. Never. No, this is the first, yeah.
Andrew Um twelve hundred bucks on these. These are gonna the these became available on the seventh. Did you talk about
Everett the new movement? No. So these come with the new Solita SW200-2 M
Unknown Power Plus. So this is the new hand-wound Salida uh with sixty five or sixty whatever some hours of sixty three
Andrew hours. Which I think is interesting for Studio Wonderdog to have secured a an exclusive contract with Siegel and then move away from Siegel.
Everett Well, but I mean this is you know, this isn't
Unknown Siegel space, right? You know, Siegel's got that sort of chronograph space lockdown, but this is it it makes me like Richard cares about movements.. Yeah He doesn't
Everett want to spend the he wants to be economical, but he cares about movements. We we talked about this last year. Like
Unknown who's gonna do this? And
Everett I kind of I think I opined like I don't think I don't think we're
Unknown gonna see a lot of people buying in until for a while. Um, but I think this is now the second watch we've seen that's come out with the new Salita movement, and of course
Everett you've got production timelines or whatever,
Unknown and I don't think Selita did a good job sort of getting these out before they made the announcement. That was a that was our last argument, I think, on the show. Uh with that with that I
Andrew I don't think we argued about it. I think we were confused by it. We were equally confused about how do you launch a product with nothing to support it? Yeah. It's like launching a movie trailer that hasn't gone into production yet.
Unknown And my position was I think they should have sat on it. I think they should have made a couple of of relationships and really pushed hard to have a couple people knock these movements out of
Everett the water. But here we are now, what a
Unknown year later. And okay, this
Everett is interesting. Richard, I like the fact that you're doing this. I like that we got a new movement in here. So this is really cool. I'm into it.
Andrew I I like it. I like everything about it. The new color is great. The old colors are good, but seeing uh an iterative improvement on his watches is also really great.
Unknown Yeah. Um,
Everett I am going to now talk about I think a
Unknown a boring release. Okay.
Everett With that said, it tickled me a little
Unknown bit just like me just like
Everett you uh Oris last year abandoned the Divers 65
Unknown in lieu of the divers
Everett date and I I think we discussed that sort of decision. You know,
Unknown this watch, this watch was first released
Everett in 1965, thus when Oris sort
Unknown of re-released it, they called it the Diver
Everett 65. I I liked it. I thought that was charming. I am not completely sure why they abandoned that naming convention, but we've now got we've now got the Diversate D, which
Unknown is a watch that I thought Oris
Everett hasn't done a lot with. You know, the Diver 65.
Unknown For five years, it was there was a new Diver 65 every
Andrew week. Every quarter, right?
Unknown You know, or a couple, probably,
Everett you know, and then you've got you've got bronze ones, and you got pink ones,
Andrew every limited edition imaginable.
Unknown And in contrast, now
Everett going on, I think year two of
Unknown the divers date, uh, we still just have the original three configurations,
Everett but Oris has now released a
Unknown regular catalog
Everett model of the divers date
Unknown with an olive green
Everett dial. And it is
Unknown exactly as boring as you'd expect. It is a black bezel, olive green dial, regular catalog release, and it's terrific. It has me
Andrew hot and bothered, and I do not typically get aroused by aurus. Uh this is titillating.
Unknown Um so can I pause talking
Everett about the aurus? Did we talk about the price for the series two 1200
Andrew bucks. 1200 bucks you interrupted me, but I did say it's 1200
Everett months. I'm sorry. I just wanted to make sure we got that
Unknown out. So this is still just a
Everett diver's date. There's no difference, but it's got a green doubt, which feels
Unknown very tutor.
Andrew Yeah. I'm
Everett okay with it. I don't mind. I don't mind the approach. They're saying it's not limited. You don't have to try to fucking log into Hodinkee's
Unknown website or something. You don't have to like build
Andrew a chat bot to beat everyone else to the purchase.
Unknown Uh they do have Oris's caliber 733, which
Everett is not in Oras. It's
Unknown it's a Salita 200 uh base model, which has been
Everett uh, you know, I don't know, zhuzged.
Unknown Did I do it right? You did do it right. The
Andrew hip movement and everything too. Which has been zhuzg
Unknown byed Auris. Um still
Everett 12.1 thick. We've got 200 meters of water resistance, which is more than I think the hundred or that the sixty-five often came in. Um
Unknown steel bracelet or tropic rubber, it's great. This
Everett is not anything to tell you
Unknown about besides olive green dial. Right?
Andrew Yeah, and and it's aurus. So date
Unknown date is the only option. So I think that's the only that's the only potential limitation to this watch. You might like this date and or you might like this watch, I think, but
Everett I'd really like to not have a date.
Andrew This watch has so much dialogue that I I feel like the the date is almost necessary.
Unknown And a six o'clock date, and a six o'clock
Everett date that appears in lieu
Unknown of a marker. The six o'clock
Everett marker. So not a true not a true
Unknown diver, which is interesting because they
Everett call it the divers date. And I think there's some limitation to that. I think that's and
Andrew that's why it's divers, uh, because for it to be a diver,
Unknown yeah, it has to meet ISO specs and that six
Andrew o'clock date doesn't meet ISO specs. So the diverse is their loophole.
Everett And you know, Seiko gets around that by way of like you know, several brands get around around that by way of tucking a little loom plot on the outside or it says askew that that
Unknown function or whatever. So uh
Everett they just I don't think Seiko has any six
Andrew o'clock uh date windows on a dive.
Unknown No, but when they do have date windows that appear at
Everett three, they stuff a little loom plot
Unknown out at the side. Yeah. Yeah. So and and other brands
Everett do this too. This is not just Seiko, but um Oris has not done that here. So this is not an ISO spect
Unknown dive watch, but it is a diver's
Everett date. Well now, now it's
Andrew it's lost all appeal appeal to me. Unless it's ISO certified. I'm not interested. Right?
Everett Because when you're sitting in the backyard. There's
Unknown nothing more than bugs me than knowing I can't
Everett go on a dive. Yeah, I mean I'm ISO
Andrew certified. So No, you're
Everett not. I could be. Could maybe.
Andrew I mean, we don't know. There are a lot of ISO specs.
Unknown I could I could fall under some right now. What's next?
Andrew Uh next up, let's I'll let's talk about another boring. Um but also interesting IFL watches the koi fish concept with the Soyosa Shore Mako. I think the Soyosa is a really interesting platform for an IFL watches because we see, you know it's it's just different enough from the typical IFL watches uh design platforms. I like it. And I really like the Soyosa as just a watch in general. I I I think it's cool. I also don't care. Right? It's black koi fish swimming in a circle around the dial. I I think maybe this is the last IFL watches that I talk about. Um kind of like in the way we don't talk about moon swatches anymore because they're still dropping a skew a week. And they're just not they were cool, they remain cool, but they' their their noteworthy factor has been so diluted.
Unknown It's just less interesting, yeah. Yeah. No, you
Everett know, I what's funny is I don't think I've ever
Unknown so I've even probably commented
Everett on the show about oh well, you know, more is more and people are saying, Oh, I'm tired of all these releases.
Unknown I've never felt that way about the moon swatch. But IFL collabs, I I'm like another fucking IFL.
Andrew Okay. I I like 'em. I think they're I think selling
Everett watches. I think I think the Soyosa
Andrew platform is really interesting because we see so many on the what's it, the Breville?
Everett Breville? The the Seville.
Andrew Oh yeah. Yeah, Sevilla. Uh and what's the other one they do a ton on? Um
Unknown I don't know. There's like two watches
Andrew that that IFL watches does a lot of collaborations on or special editions on. So seeing branching out into the Soyosa, I think is neat. I think it's cool for Citizen to get this this watch a little bit more uh publicity because I think this is a like a true sleeper hit in the way of affordable watches. Not this this particular one, but the Soyosa in general.
Unknown Yep. You
Andrew know I'm gonna start kicking you. I mean
Everett I I don't know. I'm just tired of I I I don't know I just it's not it you know I think the other thing is this is I just it's not a type of watch that I want. I just don't want it. Like I I appreciate what it is. I love the fact that they're each hand painted. Like that's fucking rad, but I don't want a hand painted dial. I just don't want it. It's super affordable too. I mean,
Andrew yeah, they're under a thousand bucks for a hand painted limited edition of 200. Um, I mean, the Soyosa is like 400 bucks.
Everett Yeah, I mean, you know, you get a limited edition from Hamilton and it's like
Andrew twelve thousand. Well, no,
Everett but you you know they make twelve thousand
Andrew of them. And and they haven't really done anything,
Everett right? Like they changed the
Andrew strap to the one that you wanted on it anyway.
Everett Or there's like or there's like a you know, uh this is a different colored dial. Like these are hand painted. Like someone did that. I can appreciate that. So I'm not really
Andrew I feel like you're arguing against yourself right now.
Everett I'm trying not to poo poo it. I'm just, it's not my thing. So that's what I'm trying to make clear. I I can appreciate what it is without having any interest in this fucking weird watch. Fair?
Andrew Okay. Fair. Uh
Everett let's talk about something I do like.
Unknown Let's talk about something I do like. And in fact,
Everett of all the releases this
Unknown week that either one of us sent links
Everett to, this is the only one that I was like,
Unknown this is really fucking cool.
Everett Um temporal works. We talked about Temporal Works last year when they released their um what do they call them? When they released, I can't remember what they call them, but basically it's a paddock 565 remake that
Unknown they released with a sector dial. You
Everett know, it was polished. It felt very much like, yeah, this is this could have been a paddock. Uh, this could have been a 565. 565 is a really cool model that paddock did a lot of stuff with. In fact, if you look up paddock 565s, you're gonna see
Unknown eight gazillion dollars.
Everett They're all different, right? There's like uh they just had so many different configurations because this is a boutique watch and they were doing boutique things with this boutique watch. Um, and temporal works is so if you don't know this, is a watch brand that sort of popped up last year from Armory's co-founder Mark Cho with watch designer Elliot Hammer. Um, and here they've taken that same platform, which is a 37mm 565 remake, and they've blasted it, put some pilot hands on it, and they're calling it the series a rambler.
Unknown This is basically a blasted field watch
Everett pilot field pilot
Unknown 565, which is the weirdest thing, and it works really, really well. In
Everett fact, I remember I didn't really love the
Unknown first what oh, series A is what
Everett are they called? It the series A, yeah, the sector. They released two uh sector dials when they did that, and then they released a red dial. And I think we we
Unknown both agreed that the
Everett red dial was the most compelling of the three, if I remember right. But this is polished, very sort of
Unknown austere, and I just wasn't
Everett wild about any of them. I was like, okay, this is cool, kind of expensive. Um this one on the other hand, the Rambler. I'm digging it. I'm digging it. So we've got painted brass dials, matte finished brass dials.
Andrew In one of the photographs they have a misprinted dial featured.
Everett Oh, do they? Yeah, look. It's got that extra little
Andrew I wonder if that's an AI No, that looks like a product photo.
Everett Uh looks that you know what I think that is, Andrew? I think that that is a retouching error.
Andrew Oh perhaps, yeah. I think that's a retouching
Everett error. That's really funny. Um
Andrew I I saw that and I was like, why is that there? This isn't a novelty watch. And then in other photographs of it or renderings, that's not there. So it's
Everett Yeah, I think it's a retouching error. Like uh like a an artifact.
Andrew Yeah. Um so
Unknown it these come in two colors, a black
Everett and a red bean. Both of these are matte finished. Uh we've got very zin
Unknown style pilot hands.
Everett Um we've got you know, at at the forty fives or maybe at the forties, we've got these
Unknown white lines that kind of break up the dial because
Everett the dial's so dirty but not
Andrew exactly. That's right. Yeah. That's
Everett right. Um like an interpretation of
Andrew a sector dial that's off uh off axis.
Unknown That's right. The so the black one comes in
Everett a like a nylon green, and the red bean comes on sort of a khaki
Unknown uh strap. I think these are textile
Everett on leather. Um, but they also come
Unknown with a khaki. Looks like it's a
Andrew suede strap. Oh, yeah, I think it's Alcantera.
Everett Yeah. So it's it's soft gray Alcantera with a NATO option. But you can also get a blasted
Unknown stibe mesh bracelet
Everett for 250 bucks. And that
Andrew is the way. Dude, it looks
Unknown so good. A blasted stybe. I never
Everett thought, like, oh, I need this,
Unknown but I need a blasted style.
Everett It looks awesome. These
Unknown are really great. They are not inexpensive
Everett considering you're getting sort of a pretty standard bog
Unknown standard stainless steel watch with kind of
Everett a boring movement. Salita 210. Um these coming in at like what twenty twenty
Andrew six seventy. Twenty six seventy.
Everett I think they're priced too high.
Unknown Uh oh
Andrew wait, but twenty six seventy is the is the one last. What are these? Yeah,
Everett 2500. Oh, okay. I think
Unknown these are priced too high. Um but I do really like it.
Everett I just wish it was. Yeah, one of these comments here on the Hodenki says looks more like a paddock 565 crossed with a Zen 556. And
Andrew it does look like a 556. It's not undone. It's um oh what's the brand that does watches just like this? I can't think of it. We talked about them quarterly
Everett I don't know. Uh it
Andrew doesn't matter. This this this is a familiar watch. This this kind of austere is it's kind of like a new version, like a new era of uh minimalism that has you know we're we're seeing some wash rinse repeats of design aesthetics.
Everett Yeah. And and you know, cool company, cool people, cool design, probably some lasting appeal in that sense because of who's making it. So maybe some value there when we talk about like what kind of value is my watch going to retain. With that said, I I do think that they're I think they're kind of reaching for the stars on that price. They'll sell these and that's fine, but I think it's a much I if this was 1700 bucks, I'd be like, this is rad.
Andrew Yeah. Uh, but for $2,500,
Everett I'm kind of likeike Yeah,
Andrew it's it it's it does give you a little bit of pause because that's a that's on different segment, right?
Everett They're ten millimeters thick, uh and the side
Unknown profile on this looks terrific..
Andrew Yes The side profile looks terrific.
Everett I think it's a wrist hugger. Um, but yeah, that's that's my thoughts. I really like the watch. I don't really like the price. Um I'm whole home at best on the movement.
Andrew Yeah, I I think the price is hard to justify against everything else we know about the brand and what we know about the watch. Andrew,
Everett we are at the point where we start making decisions.
Andrew I've already closed the tabs.
Unknown So you're done. And I think I'm good.
Everett There was, you know, the only other thing I really um thought maybe I'd try to get to was the new cocktail times, but they're new cocktail times.
Andrew They're just new cocktail times. They're all gorgeous as we'd expect them to be.
Everett And they're fine. They're fine. And then a new light blue longing conquest heritage Central Power Reresve which, is a watch I should hate and don't. It
Unknown comes, it's a beautiful dial color.
Andrew Stephanie blue. Yeah.
Unknown Precisely. Um so
Everett yeah, Andrew, uh uh other things. What do you got
Andrew okay. Put your hand in my pocket. I
Unknown will not. Uh okay, we'll at least feel
Andrew this. Okay.
Everett Oh. Okay. So I was at the store.
Andrew I need to get a couple new pairs of shorts because it's summertime, it's hot. I'm like, I just needed to get some new shorts. And I'm like browsing and I see I see these shorts on the rack. And they're Callaway golf shorts with a nine inch inseam and I immediately feel them and they do not feel like they look. They have a almost like chinoy kind of linen look to them, like just a little bit of shine. They're golf shorts, right? Yeah. They're intended to be like almost like as dressy as shorts can get. Sure. Right? With a little bit of shine. But the material is that of swim trunks.
Everett Yeah, they're but they're very uh very light.
Andrew Light, they're stretchy. Uh so I got these for like 27 bucks a pair. Uh right now on the Callaway website. They are 40 bucks a pair. Uh man, I I who
Unknown where did you buy them? Who's retailing them? Nordstrom
Andrew Rack. Oh, okay. They had M tracks. They had khaki, navy, and black. I got a khaki and a navy. Cause I just I wanted a few more pairs of shorts. And I felt them and I was like, oh, these are gonna be magical. This is as close to like wearing athletic shorts out in public as I will ever get. Yeah. Cause like I'm not I'm a grown up. Uh I'm not gonna wear basketball shorts or running shorts in public for not participating in those activities.
Unknown Yeah. Uh these
Andrew are terrific. They're stretchy, they're comfortable, they breathe. Highly recommend. If I like it. If you're looking for some new shorts that are just like pure comfort but don't look like they're pure comfort, I think this is like the boy version of Lululemon leggings.
Everett And the price is right. It's hard to it's hard to
Unknown Yeah, and they look great. Yeah they look I
Andrew mean as close as you can as close as shorts can get to dress attire.
Unknown Got a quick I got a quick uh story.
Unknown So my children right now are at
Everett the theater the the like theater that has live people on a stage making
Unknown noises with their mouth holes. Uh
Everett and donkeys. My my
Unknown middle child, my middle child who is
Everett the most rebellious,
Unknown uh, came out in a
Everett t-shirt and basketball shorts and Crocs.
Unknown Tracks. And we're like, Lou, you need to go
Everett put on a pair of pants. You're going to the theater, like, you gotta wear pants. And of course, we live in new jeans, so there's gonna be all types, but it's like
Andrew patterned pajama pants, didn't he? No.
Everett No. He came out in a pair of sharp jeans.
Andrew Look at that. Yeah. But he
Everett had taken off his t-shirt and put on
Unknown a sleeveless basketball
Everett shirt. And we're like,
Andrew how did you go forward and backward in one movement?
Everett It's pure rebellion. He knew exactly
Unknown what he was doing. And we were like, you need to go try again.
Everett And he, of course, harromps and
Unknown stomps his feet a little bit, buddy.
Everett It's like, gosh guy
Andrew were fifty percent right both times.
Unknown It was it's a power move, you know, with that one, but I was just
Unknown like, yeah. At some point he's gotta realize
Andrew like buck all you want. Yes, you're not gonna win.
Unknown You mentioned the your comment about I'm a
Everett grown-up and I was like, yeah, right? Like at some point we just like you're gonna go to the like can you just for the next three hours of your life not look like an asshole. Uh
Andrew no, that's an impossibility for me. Uh most people I think can can do it though.
Everett I've got another thing, Andrew. Do me. You're not gonna be able to link this one.
Andrew Because I'm not doing the notes. That's also
Unknown true. Uh I have spent the last, I don't know,
Everett and maybe you can maybe you can verify or validate or correct me on this, but I think for now about four
Unknown months, I've been looking for a
Everett motorcycle, a specific motorcycle, uh, and been struggling with it. So what I
Unknown did is I I just decided
Everett I decided, you know, I want to do two things. One, I want to purchase a motorcycle, but but two, more importantly, I want to learn about motorcycle repair maintenance etc.
Andrew Do you have like Zen and The Art of Morotcycle Repair. I don't and
Everett I've never even read it. I don't know. But I need to get into that. I need to I do need to check that out.
Andrew Somebody it was in somebody's other thing on the show.
Unknown Oh yeah, that's right. I just don't remember
Andrew who it was. So um I
Unknown I have I do know the footnotes, but yes. So I I am going to I am going to just very briefly
Everett talk about my philosophy here when I look, because it it changed. At very
Unknown first, I was looking for a dual
Everett sport motorcycle and I quickly kind of went
Unknown away from that. But there are
Everett a number of there are a number of dual sport motorcycles
Unknown that are very well supported with the aftermarket,
Everett super easy to work on, yada yada yada. I quickly kind of went away from that towards a more traditional street motorcycle, but
Unknown I was looking for something kind of specific.
Everett I was looking for something that was well supported with aftermarket, right? That was a big one. Uh, that was going to be
Unknown mechanically simple
Everett and straightforward. So that locks
Andrew you into an era. Sure.
Everett That locks you into sort of like 70s,
Andrew 80s, 90s. Correct Emoto.
Unknown Exactly right, Andrew. And and and really,
Everett you know, you getting into the eighties,
Unknown you start you know you start getting
Andrew some computerization and some digital. So like you're you're kind of in the seven like if sixties exists, but you're you're in a y sixty year old bike.
Unknown And then and you know, so one of the things that comes
Everett up a lot is the C B five hundred four, which
Unknown is one of the best motorcycles ever made,
Everett blah blah blah. You know, certainly you're and I'm going Japanese too, right?
Unknown Like, like let's just get that out of the way. We're going Japanese.
Andrew I'm turning Japanese. I think I'm turning Japanese for many
Unknown reasons, but prime, you
Everett know, price and price
Unknown and and longevity, right? Japanese motorcycles in that era
Everett were the most reliable motorcycles on earth. I don't care. Like Harley. It it doesn't matter. Japanese. I mean,
Andrew Harley's are known for being bags
Unknown of ass. So like they're a
Andrew constant project. I I
Unknown start kind of and and now I'm like getting a little bit more into the
Everett weeds. Like what do I want? The 454, I the reason I went away or the 500s, the CB504, the reason I went away from that is is really simple. Four
Unknown carburetors. Yeah. So
Everett what I want is four stroke, two carburetors,
Unknown because carburetors, old carburetors,
Everett need service. And four
Unknown is exactly, exactly mathematically
Everett speaking, two times as many as two.
Andrew Yes. And carb carb rebuild, though therapeutic. Pain in the ass.
Everett Kind of a pain in the ass. So uh I I finally I settled on uh
Unknown oh i settled on a
Everett motorcycle that i've since this has been about four months now fallen in love with this motorcycle
Unknown uh the idea of it philosophically I've fallen in love with it. What it is is the
Everett Yamaha XS650. What this
Unknown was was a Yamaha that was built to compete directly with in the 70s kind of the kind of the B's knees of the motorcycle
Everett world world, which were the British twins. So, you know, Norton's, Bonneville's, etc. The Yamahawks.
Andrew Indians still fighting in that it is still a competitor in that era, right?
Everett Yeah, I but I don't think I mean India's American, right?
Andrew Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So these are British
Everett twins, right? So and and
Unknown British twins, very cool motorcycles, just cool as shit, but fucking pains in the asses. Leaky, high maintenance, sons of a bitches.
Everett Uh so Yamaha comes out with their XS
Unknown six fifty, which is the same thing. It's a 360-degree,
Everett meaning the uh meaning the pistons go at the
Unknown same time, vibraty, but super reliable, fantastic engine based
Everett on old German architecture,
Unknown and it crushes. It crushes. They sell a
Everett bunch of them. They're way more reliable. So I'm like,
Unknown okay, this is this is the motorcycle
Everett for me. I've now spent the better part of the past four months looking for something specific. I want one that
Unknown is not ready to go. C
Everett Iause want to get it ready to go.
Unknown But it's also not so
Everett not ready to go that
Unknown I'm going to be in over my head. So that's tough. That's a tough uh needle to
Everett thread, right? Yeah. What I don't want is one that's like
Unknown tits already. Even though it'll need maintenance,
Everett I'm not gonna have done a lot of that work that I kind of want to do. So and it's gonna be like they're expensive, right? You're
Unknown looking at five, six, seven grand to
Everett get one that's like in really good shape.
Unknown And then even the ones that are kind of shitty are
Everett like twenty five hundred. So fourth of July, morning of fourth of July,
Andrew I know I pull up Facebook Marketplace.
Everett I pull up Facebook Marketplace and
Unknown I find one. It's in Brownsville, which
Everett is about a half hour from here, and it says 500
Unknown bucks and got some electrical
Everett issues, but everything else is great. And I message the guy and I go, Hey, does
Unknown it turn over? And he's like, Look, dude,
Everett everything works. Everything
Unknown works. It's a little rusty because it's
Everett been outside for the last year, but the
Unknown engine is perfect. The
Everett only problem is last time I rode it, I was on the freeway and the wiring loom caught on fire. And I was like,
Andrew Yeah, that's just a minor thing, not a big deal.
Everett Well, you know, f it's a 1976, 50-year-old wires, right? And I'm like, okay, I'm coming to you. So I call Andrew and I'm like, hey, I need your truck. Andrew's like, what the fuck are you talking about? And I'm like, just don't ask questions.
Andrew I didn't ask many questions after that.
Everett I came and got your truck and I went and got a motorcycle. And now I own that motorcycle, Andrew. And that's my other thing for the week. Is I at the age of 45, full midlife crisis, have purchased a 50-year-old motorcycle that I'm gonna have to repair
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Everett I can learn how to ride a motorcycle.
Andrew Yeah you just that was actually a I think a perfect I I'm not polyopsis of what a midlife crisis is. I spent the last four months searching for an impossible to find motorcycle. Found it, bought it. Shit don't work. Last time it worked, it was on fire. Uh now I'm gonna rebuild it. And then after that, I'm gonna learn how to write it. If
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Andrew You're gonna get that shit running and sell it.
Everett Might who cares? Isn't that the you know
Andrew I don't think you're gonna write it. I maybe
Everett not. I don't know. I might. I feel like
Andrew you would look terrible on a motorcycle. Have you seen
Everett my hair? You you like being comfortable
Andrew far too much to sit on a motorcycle.
Everett Well, but so here's here's one possibility. I think this is a third possibility. Uh
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Everett I get it running, I make it look
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Everett it's probably worth, and then I take that money and I go
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Everett and comfortable and modern.
Andrew An arcimoto. And then ride an
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Everett possibility. But honestly, I I
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Andrew I it's always the process with me.
Everett You know how that I struggle to imagine
Andrew you on a motorcycle more than like once.
Everett Yeah, that feels mean. It's not
Andrew mean. It's objective. Sitting in a saddle, though liberating and freeing, is not particularly comfortable. You like to be comfortable.
Everett I mean I also like to be uncomfortable. I've run twenty marathons.
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Andrew to say you did. Yeah, but you didn't
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Andrew No, you know you ran the 20th, not because you wanted to, but because you were like, I gotta get to 20.
Everett I don't think so. No. No. I liked it. There's something, there's that I've got a little bit of like this
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Everett slightly uncomfortable and hard.
Andrew Uh I I wish you well. I think it's I think it's a really cool project and I look forward to being able to watch it uh unfold.
Everett I'm excited to send pictures to the group thread and videos of it revving for the first time, etc.
Andrew It's all your new wiring.
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