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The 400th Episode (400)

Published on Wed, 01 Jul 2026 22:38:38 -0700

Synopsis

Andrew and Everett host another episode of the 40 and 20 WatchClicker podcast, opening with a discussion about professional audio equipment and Andrew's new chili-making technique. The hosts dive into recent watch releases, spending considerable time on the Notice Obscura 2, a photography-themed watch with a functional ISO calculating bezel developed with Beers and Cameras founder Juan Martinez. They praise Seiko's updated 1968 Heritage Divers GMT, noting it as a welcome example of good iterative design from a brand they've been critical of lately.

The conversation covers several other releases including the Fears Brunswick 40 Helmsman, Rado Captain Cook with a gold dial, a remarkably affordable Chinese tourbillon from Peacock, Bulova's patriotic Snorkel release, and Baltic's new permanent Scalegraph collection. They wrap up discussing Andrew's first experience attending minor league baseball with his son, who threw out a first pitch, and Everett's enthusiastic recommendation of the Wiha Centrifix Power Blade Holder, which he claims is the best quarter-inch hex bit holder available. The hosts end with a plea for listener support on Patreon as their numbers have been declining.

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Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 and 20 the WatchClicker podcast with your hosts Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talked about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett I'm doing alright. That was a good cork pop. That was
Andrew a really good cork pop. That was
Everett like Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. I Andrew, you know, sometimes I think about this, but I do wish I do wish that there was some sort of pot with this board, right? These dials, these faders are fine, but if you've ever potted out music with like a like a serious It's a totally different
Andrew I don't even know what you're saying right now. Like
Everett uh so like if you're using like a professional radio board. you When fade out the music, you use this giant potentiometer. It's like a four-inch and it's always super heavy. And it's just like just precise tactile. It's so nice. That's right. And so using these tiny little aluminum faders is much less satisfying.
Andrew Yeah. I mean we could upgrade.
Everett Yeah, no, it seems I think I think that that equipment that I'm referring to is like multi thousands of dollars. Uh
Andrew we could we could own a sound stage and then when we're not recording, we could rent it out to other people.
Everett Yeah.ah, yeah, ye You know, when I was in high school, I was at the KBPS, the Benson High School radio. We we would go on the radio. Real radio, it was pretty cool, but
Andrew it was public access, but I
Everett I mean well,, yeah, that's right. But we played music. We had, you know, all the subscriptions and we had an old AP feed computer. It was cool. It was
Andrew pretty neat. Yeah, it was cool. Andrew,
Everett how are you? I'm good.
Andrew I I took this week off because I just didn't feel like working. So I'm good. I just like chilled and then got into a flurry of activity and realized, oh shit, it's time to record. Um, so I'm still like coming down off of a flurry of activity, but I made a really fantastic chili. So what I've taken to doing is when I do like a whole chicken or pork shoulder, I give it two days with that, and then I repurpose it into chili. Uh and my my new chili method is really fantastic. So I start, I everyone undercooks onions. That's a like just a really strong opinion that I hold. Even if they're sweet onions, I think everyone undercooks them. Unless you're serving raw onions.
Everett I like a crunchy onion, especially in chili. Oh
Andrew no, I they gotta be they gotta be soft. Because that's like you can add you can put another addition of onions in, right? Like hops. Sure. But the the first onions that go in, that takes 30 minutes. Yeah.
Everett Like they they gotta sweat for 30 minutes.
Everett Oh. Like pre pre adding
Everett the additional things? Yes. They' justre in the
Andrew pan browning for like a half an hour. Occasional stir, a little bit of salt and pepper.
Everett Okay. They get so sweet and they s like
Andrew they they dry out and they absorb so much flavor and then they push so much it's it's fantastic. You're undercooking your onions. And then some garlic. And now what I've started to star sttedart doing is a whole can of chipotles and adobo. I just pop that thing in and throw it into the pan and just kind of sweat it for a few minutes and then throw all that into the blender and then I start working my seasonings into it.
Everett Okay. So it's almost it's like a low grade
Andrew mole as my foundation.
Everett Sure. Oh my gosh. It's even
Andrew good if it when it's in the slow cooker. What are you
Everett using for your chili base? And
Andrew then I'll maybe do a roux or or a slurry something. Just to just as a thickener.
Everett Yeah. Uh today I used to use a slurry because
Andrew I was using the slow cooker. But I always hate like I grew up eating slow cooker chili and I was like, man, this is so good. But the problem is it all tastes the same. There's no like it's all kind of flat. There's no real unique flavors in it. Like stove chopped chili is
Everett just so much better. Yeah.
Andrew Like there there's a there's a time when
Everett it gets overcooked, even if it's not actually
Andrew overcooked. Um, but that's how I've started. That's my new like foundational flavors of uh of chili. Yeah, it's so good. If I have any f dried chilies, I'll steep those for a little bit and throw those in the blender too, and like get it closer to like a mole base for for sure
Everett sure sure sure turned out fantastic what
Everett kind of beans are you using uh
Andrew depends on how much meat is available if there's meat, like like half of a chicken and some pork shoulder, then I don't do beans.
Everett No beans. You're one of those. No beans.
Andrew But if I do beans, I'll do like a can of pinto and a can of dark red kidney.
Everett Yeah. I I recognize that chili is
Everett like OG chili is no bean, but I I'm I'm I I mean I like
Andrew bean I like bean to chili too. Like but I if I have a bunch of meat I'm not gonna keep adding stuff into it to it it's a it's a delivery mechanism for the meat.
Everett Yeah yeah fair enough. I I'm a pinto bean guy. I'm just like give me a pinto bean. That's what I want. Although I have had black eyed pea chili, which
Everett is good. Sometimes I'll do black beans just
Andrew to add a little bit of cut like color differentiation in it.
Everett Give me that pinto bean. Uh but in any event, we're not here to talk about
Everett we're not here to talk about what?
Andrew Chiliili. Ch or I don't even know what we talked
Everett about. What did I talk about? Oh, I talked about
Everett potentiometers on professional grade sound equipment. Uh we're definitely not here to talk about that. Rather, we're here to talk about I will just mention we're drinking uh KC12, Nob Creek 12 tonight, which is, you know, kind of hard to find, especially here, right? We don't you can't find Knob Creek 12. Uh, because I I think it's one of those whiskeys that's like 60 bucks. Hunterproof. It's just always a banger. It's just always a banger. I mean, when you compare this to like McKenna, bottle de Bon, this is a way better bourbon. Uh, I just wish it was easier to find. I mean, this this bottle is the only one I've found on the shelf, and so it's a bit precious to me, which feels absurd to have knob Creek 12 feel like a precious. But
Andrew scarcity, man. I know it's so
Everett good. God, I love this. I like the yeah, I I mean, I there's other knobs I like. I don't uh I particularly like this knob
Everett cream 12. I just you just can't fucking find it.
Andrew I can't even take a drink. I gotta compose myself here. You're gonna be okay. Yeah, I'll get us. Let me get us started. Um let's actually start with, I think a watch that we'll we'll take a little bit of time on. The new
Everett notice obscura two.
Andrew Sure. So the you guys might not know this about us.
Everett We really like Notice. Not
Andrew just their watches, but we like the people behind Notice and the brand and what they've brought to the watch industry, aside from the brand
Everett notice, right? They've they've
Andrew done a really cool thing in the industry, and they're really great people, and we like them.
Everett So So the Oh,
Andrew let me get to the bottom of this. Good lord. Uh this is a long article. I'm sorry.
Everett The Obscura 2. We have a
Andrew black textured fume dial, fume, fume? I don't really know. That's a word that doesn't make sense. It's a fumed dial. Luminous markers. And in the rehout are ISO values. So this is a photography-themed novelty watch that is not novelty in any sense of the word, but for this addition of the ISO values. 316L Steel. Uh it is a DLC coated
Everett I don't really understand so a black
Andrew DLC coated bronze bidirectional limited rotation bezel. So there's 16 clicks between 12 and 4 uh to be able to do your ISO calculations on this watch. So it's actually like a functional ISO calculating watch. And and not being a great photographer, I don't super understand that mechanism, but for somebody who does, I imagine it could be valuable. And if not, it's at least a nice little thing. Uh 40 millimeter case, I mean 38 without the bezel, 47 lug to lug, 117 thick, 100 meters of water resistance, and the the the classic notice price point coming in at 650 bucks. Uh this is great. The this is what what was the first one they did of this? Uh
Everett well the first the first one was the same. So this is
Everett actually so they
Everett released this in 2024. They released a hundred just a limited edition a hundred watches that they made with Juan Martinez
Andrew who's the founders of Beers and Cameras
Everett uh and and Juan actually has patented through the USPTO um has patented this bezel
Everett design. It is effectively
Everett a mechanical a mechanical indicator of the quote unquote Sunny sixte ruleen, which is which is a system that you can
Everett use even Sans,
Everett you can use Sunny sixteen Sans um watch,
Everett right? In fact I know some people have you know it' its's sort of a
Everett you know an analog hipster tattoo. You can get
Andrew Sunny 16 tattooed.
Everett You can get anything tattooed on your forearm, right? Which is
Andrew base if you really wanted to go that far. Uh
Everett but you you know if you're shooting uh
Everett especially like say in 2026, if you're shooting with a vintage
Everett film camera, which is really your option
Everett if you're gonna shoot film you're shooting,
Everett there is a very high likelihood that one of two things will be true.
Everett Either the light meter
Everett in your camera will be busted
Everett or the battery that was used to
Everett power the light meter is no longer available functionally.
Everett Now, there's conversions and you
Everett know, there's been many, many, many tomes of forum posts written
Everett about whatever camera you have, how you might
Everett get around that. But oftentimes what people do is they just say, you know, Sunny 16 is good enough. Film gives you a little bit of flexibility. And
Everett so as long as you're as long as you're
Everett exposing the film enough, Sunny
Everett 16 generally, generally gets
Everett you a good enough exposure that
Everett you can adjust it in the lab. Um it's a really clever, and this is actually a really clever, you know, we talk about, you know, what whatever, your tennis watch or your
Everett golf watch or or whatever.
Everett This is actually a like useful thing. If you're out shooting film, it this is a relatively pragmatic thing to have. And the way it works, it it's it if you don't, if you know
Everett Sunny 16, you'll see it and you'll be like, oh,
Everett okay, I get the how this works. And if you don't, we're not going to try to explain how to use it here because it's just not, it just doesn't translate to words. You kind of need to have it in front of you. Uh, but yeah, uh effectively, Andrew, you said it's got ISO values, you know, whether you're shooting ISO 100
Everett or ISO 800 film, you know,
Everett generally speaking, if you're outside, you're not going to be shooting 1600. You're going to be shooting, you know, 400 or maybe 800
Everett or 100, right? Or 200, right? You're gonna be
Everett shooting in those ranges. It has all those ranges covered. And then it allows you to adjust
Everett for, you know, I'm shooting at whatever
Everett F stop. And this is how fast your shutter speed needs to be. It gives you the ability to
Everett quickly reference based on the available sunlight
Everett that you see with your eyes. It gives you the ability to quickly sort
Everett of move, move
Everett your own settings on your camera and
Everett get a relatively good exposure. It's it's a clever it's a
Everett clever device. And of course he didn't 16
Everett rule but it it's a on
Everett your wrist. You know, this is a really actually a practical complication for someone that shoots analog cameras.
Everett Or that gives a shit about analog cameras.
Everett They've made a few uh they've made a few adjustments
Everett to this. You know, one of the big ones is one of the big
Everett ones is that they have removed the beers and cameras logo from the dial. I think that's just an aesthetic
Everett choice, and it definitely cleans up the dial
Everett a little bit. but you know it it's still this is
Everett still a the same watch,
Everett right? It's a a really neat watch. And from what I can tell, it's not limited this time,
Andrew right? It looks like it is now a permanent part of the collection.
Everett And it's in their design lab, so who who knows what that means?
Everett It's at least not specifically
Everett limited. So they have the ability, if they sell a bucket load of these, I think, to just make as many as they think they're gonna sell.
Andrew Keep printing them out. They're not printing them out.
Everett And this has that sort of bezel proud bezel that Notice does, which
Everett is to say a 38mm case with a 40mm
Everett universe. 11-7 thick, which is fine. It's great. 20 millimeter lugs. Yeah, this is a terrific. This is a really clever watch. I do like their seconds hands that they use on these, which is like sort of I don't know, rally striped, what are we gonna call that? Uh candy cane,
Andrew maybe, but that's flat. Yeah. Uh and we've
Everett got an NH38. Seiko is uh has worked with or excuse me, notice has worked with Seiko closely over the years and I I think that's that movement makes a lot of sense. Uh nothing too fancy. And it's a great price, right? These are these are right there, what, six ninety five Andrew? Six oh shoot.
Andrew Six seventy five, I think. Here
Everett this is a long article that we we've linked
Everett a uh we're gonna link a Fratello article. Yeah,
Everett six fifty or s i in DLC or excuse me, six fifty for steel or seven twenty five for DLC.
Andrew Yeah, this is a real this is a clever watch.
Everett I I like it a lot.
Everett And I like the fact that it's not limited.
Andrew Me too. And and you know what? The first five comments, they aren't shitty.
Everett Yeah. Which is unusual.
Everett Yeah, looks like a proper tool complication.
Andrew Yeah. There's this one that says leaving aside that a photographer worth his salt will do this off the top of his head, or her salt, and her head, for that matter. But I don't know anyone anymore that still shoots on film.
Everett Yeah. And frankly, I've used I I shoot film often enough. Um and I still have to
Everett reference I still I still reference uh you know
Everett typically the internet, right? Which is which is pretty
Everett straightforward, but which is what you should
Andrew do. If it's not something that you're doing with such regularity, you should just reference things real quick.
Everett Yeah. Because that's
Andrew how you get it right rather than just guessing.
Everett Yeah, that's that's right. And
Andrew that kind of goes for all disciplines, not just photography.
Everett Yeah. Yeah, I I mean yeah, it it's
Everett it if if you were shooting often enough
Everett that you just knew Sunny 16 good good on you. But I think you know his n his second paragraph
Everett is like, with that said, most people shoot digital and you don't have to do that. Like, hey, thanks Thanks, tough guy. Yeah, that's right. Uh but
Andrew M most people have a cell phone in their pocket and don't need to carry a w wear a watch.
Everett That's right. Um let's stick with
Everett Sago, although that was a little
Andrew little bit of a pivot, but yeah. That
Everett was not Seiko per se, although it did include a Seiko movement. Um you know, we had uh in fact we had uh an episode recently entitled We Hate Seiko Now, uh
Andrew which okay
Everett that's fair. I think it's fair. I I named the
Andrew episode. But
Everett this is a release that I'm okay with. So Seiko
Everett has released. But this is this
Andrew is the the kind of release that is why we hate Seiko.
Everett Interesting. Uh come back to that thought. Hold that
Everett thought. So Seiko has released uh new colorways and upgraded specifications for their 1968 Heritage Divers GMT. I love this watch. I've always loved this watch. I love the old version. I
Everett love this version. This is a good Seiko watch. And you know, I I'm sort of like super high on the SPB-143. Right. Like I we don't act-I still have an SKX, my very first w watch, and I love it, right? We don't actually hate Seiko, but we do, I think. I'll just speak for myself. I do kind of really
Everett dislike, nay, hate, the way Seiko is releasing
Everett watches in 2026. Uh, with that said, this is
Everett this harkens back to 1968 where Seiko introduced Japan's first high-beat automatic movement and incorporated into uh this sort of iconic case, which I'm going to refer to as
Everett sort of the marine master case. That's what my brain goes to, but of course, that's not totally accurate. Um and that is something that
Everett Seiko's kept in their DNA throughout.
Everett Maybe not at every stage, but this is this is an oft-reoccurring
Everett case DNA that Seiko's used over the years. And then in 2023 Yeah.
Andrew There's about twenty-five watches that carry this general shape of case.
Everett That's right. And in twenty twenty three, Seiko released their uh 1968 Heritage GMT pairing it with their brand new 6R54 GMT complication. Um at the time it was a 200-meter watch with their you know really nice 72 hour power reserve. Uh and I we were high on that watch. Hey, this is great. This is cool. This is neat. We like this. Well they have now upgraded that to a 300 meter water resistance, which between 200 and 300 is still just
Everett 11 points, you guys. Yep. Nope, no extra
Andrew points. Uh with that said, it's cool.
Everett I'm good with this being a 300 meter upgraded
Andrew clasp on it. Yes. With their
Everett two and a half millimeter micro adjustment points. I think there's six of them. Uh still forty-two and and just thirteen three thick, which is like the the thickness of most Grand Seiko dress watches.
Andrew Yes. You know, so here
Everett we are. We're getting 300 meters in a proper jet dive GMT at 133
Everett thick. Hey Seiko, you know how
Everett to make good watches. It turns out you know how to make good watches. Great 20 millimeter lug width.
Andrew Yeah, the the dimensions on this, like the geometry of the dimensions is just perfect.
Everett So great. They've got this in both a black and a green. A fantastic. I'm gonna call that British Racing
Everett Green, at least on the ceramic bezel,
Everett less so on the dial. Um I
Andrew hate your color description. More of
Everett a jade with the sun burst
Everett dialy we get a little green sea
Andrew because it you know behind it you have like clearly a tropical shore uh with that like really vibrant green ocean
Everett and then yellow yellow jam tea arrows on both of these. Um, yeah, these are great. So references are HBC001, HBC002. Of course we've got the 6R54. Um, and they're 1700 bucks. Which that's a lot of money, but in 2026, I mean that's the right
Andrew that's how much you're paying for this quality of manufacturing, this movement.
Everett Yeah. And coming from Seiko.
Everett Yeah, I I I don't mind I don't mind the price on this. You're
Andrew getting worse bang for your buck and plenty of other Seiko's at higher price points.
Everett Sure. And this is this is just a proper release. This is a Seiko that if you were into it, I'd just say
Everett buy it. This is great. Ceramic
Everett bezels on both of these.
Everett And this is a sort
Everett of flagship prospective type of release.
Everett I think. Yes. And and and
Everett it lives up to that description. And yes, but it's also
Andrew so I feel like uncommon to see good iterative releases from Seiko. What is happening? Yeah,
Everett I'm looking at what do you s what's the strap you're wearing on your Doxa?
Andrew A silicone elite. Oh, okay.
Everett Yeah, it looks great. It's awesome on it. Yeah. It's blue.
Andrew No, it's black. Oh, okay. Okay. You you
Everett just you you just described British
Andrew Racing Green and at at four feet away your you're discover like this is black.
Everett I don't know, it was it was coming across as blue. Maybe T
Andrew V reflection. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know I've had it on the Silicon Elite for I love it on the Barton. I put it on the um on the Everest. But the Everest is just kind of thick.
Everett It is thick. It's just a it's I wear that
Andrew on the C63. I think that's a better fit. Is it 20
Everett millimeter lug width? Do you have a foster bracelet
Everett or a foster strap? Yes. You should try it on there. I
Everett bet it would s I I bet it would do well on that.
Andrew I I bet it would, but I have no idea where it is. Uh
Everett I've got a couple. It might be on my foster. I got
Andrew one or two. You do? It might be on my foster.
Everett I'll bring you one. Sorry
Andrew for the distraction. Everyone's making all kinds of weird faces. I
Everett was trying to figure out what you were wearing. I was like, what's
Andrew behind like is there a ghost behind me? Did one of my kids sneak in? Like what's happening here?
Everett Yeah, no, it's got a little bit of a blue cast in the light that I'm getting off the
Andrew I think it's the television. I think you're getting a weird like black mirror.
Everett And we've got a bit we've got like a bit of sunset
Everett coming in the window. Lights lights a little bit weird right
Andrew now. So anyway, well done Seiko. Yes, it's a good iterative release from Seiko, which is decreasingly common. They'll update a watch and make it worse. And that's why that's why we hate Seiko, because we know that they can they can do it right and they can make good updates and and drop good releases. But then we get
Everett We hate Seiko because we love Seiko. And then we
Andrew get so many shitters in between. We're like, what were you like, like who is the asshole that's signing off on both of these things? And why does he still have all of his fingers?
Everett Maybe he doesn't. It's just yeah.
Everett I don't know what I mean by that, you guys. I don't mean anything specific. I was just saying stupid stuff.
Andrew Yeah, Everett cuts his fingers a lot. Like it's possible that he's just like ripping through these papers and not actually signing them. He's just using his fountain pen and has like occasionally removing digits at the speed at which he's approving
Everett I am currently bandaged up after
Everett having spent the entirety of the last week in a like full finger bandage and splint because I
Everett cut my fingers so bad. So Andrew is speaking
Everett truth to reality. Uh what's next? Uh the Fears
Andrew Brunswick, the forty the Brunswick 40 Helmsman Endurance specification. And and this is this is just the fears brunswick 40 but i love this color scheme when i saw it i was i like immediately evoked like fairer like really great color palette use. It's this gorgeous crispy white with a really complimentary uh feel free, you have you have the the blue lexicon
Everett from your paint days. I'm gonna say we've
Everett got a little bit of denim here, maybe a cornflower.
Andrew Similarly colored rotor on the back of the in the see-through case back, uh great stitched white with matching blue bracelet uh or strap. This is this is just the colors are what got me so excited.
Everett Yeah, corn flour. I've settled on corn flour.
Everett The rehot is corn flour.
Andrew All right. It's a corn flour just band around the outside on the rehot. Uh little bit of it on the on the markers, the hands are just this color is what got me smitten. This is the first Brunswick that I've saw that I'm like, I should buy this.
Everett I'm showing Andrew, I'm showing Andrew
Everett a hexadecimal cornflower blue.
Andrew You know, I I um found hexadecimal
Everett hex code for cornflower blue. I
Andrew I found that it's I don't know if it's something about viewing it on my phone versus a computer. The the color comes completely different to
Everett you know i i at some point you're going to tell me hey i had my eyes checked and i'm completely colorblind and you know i won't i won't say anything mean when that happens.
Andrew I've i've like I struggle. I won't
Everett say that out loud. I won't say anything mean out loud to you.
Andrew To me. Yeah, no, I expect that other people will uh it's possible. Like I I wouldn't be shocked if I had a bunch of color deficiencies and like I could I can see the primary colors and that's good enough. No, this
Everett is good. You know, Andrew, you said, you
Everett know, this is giving you fairer
Everett vibes. I don't see that,
Everett but I do feel like this is taking that sort of classic nautical, you know, brightling or or pick your
Andrew punta special and
Everett and and making it modern and fun punchy and fun. Right? I almost said funchy.
Andrew I like funchy. Funchy. Punchy
Everett and fun. Uh not sure what it would mean, but it means punchy and fun.
Andrew I'm down to try. Funchy.
Everett It does sound like a sex act. I
Everett know I took it too far. I'll
Andrew back it. No, it's good.
Everett I don't know Yeah, I
Everett I don't have uh g quite as much uh
Everett quite as much appreciation for what they've done here. This actually feels super conservative. No
Everett no uh I I think it's great. I just
Everett don't know that it's like when you say, Oh, this
Everett gives me Farer vibes like I'm expecting. You know.
Andrew Except Farer is monochromatic these days. It it gives me like Farer in that transition period from like a lot of brightness to like now where everything's just one color.
Everett Yeah, fair. Fair enough. I'm trying to figure
Everett out like what did you not talk about that
Everett I can talk about as I go now? I'll
Everett just pick whatever I want because you know what? Because American
Andrew stuff. Um I'm gonna
Everett talk about a watch that
Everett I really like and I wanna like, but I think it's too expensive. So the Rotto Captain Cook with a shimmering gold dial.
Andrew So feels super appropriate.
Everett It does. It does. Uh off the bat. This is a rotto captain cook. If if you're picturing a rotto captain cook, that's what this watch
Andrew is. Think no harder okay
Everett uh but we've got uh we've got a couple things that set this thing apart so
Everett uh so first rotto captain cook pretty fucking
Everett dressy for a dive watch, right? I I don't think it's unfair to suggest this leads towards dress diver.
Andrew Uh absolutely not. That's a per that I think encapsulates the nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies skin diver feel.
Everett And despite the fact that this is not an H-case, I think this definitely feels like a skin diver. Um, they have now sort of made a couple tweaks to this. Very, very,
Everett very subtle tweaks. This is a
Everett 39mm Captain Cook. You can also get Captain Cooks in uh 37 and 43.
Everett So this is the more sort of middle of the
Everett road, 39. Which is such a
Andrew perfect size for it. 37, I feel like would be a little bit too small for this case shape.
Everett That's right. That includes a 45mm lug-to-lug
Everett and 12 millimeters thick, which sort of uh uh
Everett sort of classic classic
Everett dimensions. It is a 300 meter watch, so despite the fact that we're saying it
Everett gives skin diver vibes, this is this is a a perfectly
Everett adequate uh diving tool to the extent
Everett you were looking for such a thing. Uh in
Everett in this case, they have they have zhuched it up. Is zhuzh an appropriate word for this for
Andrew what they've done? Maybe more J's. You're getting dangerous now. Compose yourself. This is a family show. Um
Everett so we do have a high-tech, uh, you know,
Everett Rado's got their high-tech ceramic.
Everett We've got a a high-tech ceramic bezel
Everett that has indications at uh you know Arabic indications at 1530 and 45, and then a triangle at 60. Um, we've got a PVD gold bezel
Everett framing that black high-tech ceramic
Everett insert, which is gorgeous. It's a steel mid-case, steel
Everett bracelet, polished beads of rice, and then we've got this just the
Everett bezel PVD gold, which is great.
Andrew I think if this was a a crispy white dial or black, I think I'm all in on on just that PVD'd bezel.
Everett I think they nail it here. And then we move into the dial and it's a totally new dial for
Everett Rotto. They have taken
Everett um what w what's the
Everett system here? It's diamond powder coated
Andrew or or diamond powder like finished. They uh then they so they
Everett It's a multi-stage they like powder
Andrew it and then gold PVD the the dial. So Yeah. Or like a like a kind of crumpled up gold leaf. Like it it it doesn't exactly look like gold leaf, but it's it's really, really similar, but it's also kind of sparkly and
Everett gold sand. Yeah, it's terrific. It's
Everett fucking great. And then Captain Cook, they do uh Rowder does such a good job with their fonts on the Captain Cook.
Everett You've got a swinging anchor at 12 o'clock
Everett because it's Rado. Uh I
Everett love this watch. This gives me, this gives me like Hoyer vibes, like maybe Tag Hoyer vibes, like early
Everett Tag Hoyer vibe. Uh this just feels like nineties, but also modern. I love it. I think this is such a great watch. We've got gold PVD hands, gold markers, applied markers, uh
Andrew but white on the bezel with
Everett with white numerals
Everett on the bezel and and white bloom fill here. Uh this is just a crispy, crispy 80s cocaine watch is what this is.
Andrew Yeah, if you if you size this bracelet appropriately, you're wearing it wrong. You need to have three extra links.
Everett Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little bit extra for sure. You need a little bit extra. Um
Everett you really got to stretch out that Jubilee. You gotta
Andrew get some good jangle on that. Captain Cook
Everett polishes a lot more material than other companies.
Everett Uh, and so you got a lot of polish. I just think this is great.
Everett It here's here's what I don't love. It's 2500 bucks.
Everett Which is it's on that it's 2500
Andrew Swiss francs. Oh yeah, 250 Swiss
Everett francs. So it's gonna be three it''ss
Everett that a tough pill for me to swallow. I think that this is a little bit expensive for
Everett what it is. You've got the
Everett Rotto R763, which is a PowerMatic
Everett 80. Um what's a what's
Andrew the not gold leaf rotto Captain Cook
Everett cost? Uh I don't know. Good
Everett question. Not sure. Rotto Captain Cook. Yeah, Joma Shop 1750, so it's probably not that much more expensive than a It's probably not that much more expensive than an SRP. So maybe, maybe this comes in at two thousand. Yeah, twenty five hundred for just a standard Captain Cook. So I
Andrew I don't know why that's a hard pill for me to swallow.
Everett Yeah, they've got this twenty nine hundred, so it's four hundred dollars more than your standard fare Captain Cooks. Different prices for different Captain Cooks. It's interesting.
Andrew I noticed that. So I stopped looking. I don't know why I have trouble holding this brand in the regard that it
Everett Well, does it deserve that regard? I mean it's a s it's a swatch brand that's kind of like and they're not doing anything special here.
Andrew I mean they're but they're using PowerMatic
Everett 80s, like we don't we don't poo poo T
Andrew so at dropping a twenty five hundred dollar watching. Sure I do
Everett I do. Do we? I do.
Andrew Uh on here? I I sure
Everett I would if you wanted me to bring one up.
Everett No, it's just it's just too much money, I think. 1750
Everett is what these look like they're going for on Joma, which
Everett I I'm okay with that. Yeah, sub two thousand
Andrew I think I'm I'm tolerant of. If that's
Everett the going market rate, I'm okay with
Everett that. I mean I've never seen these in the wild. No, I've
Everett never seen I I mean I've seen
Everett Rottto's in the wild, but never seen a Captain Cook. Yeah. I'd like to see one. I like them. I
Andrew like the watch. And and I I like this iteration of it too.
Everett This is a cool watch man. I I'm I'm into this. I I really like I really like what they did with this.
Everett What's next? Oh I
Andrew uh I was captivated by this uh article that that's entitled Chinese Hot Horology from the Geneva of the East.
Everett I you know what, Andrew? I knew you were
Everett gonna pull this watch um when
Andrew I was reading about it. The new
Everett Peacock High Yi
Andrew Turbion U Limited Edition. Um, and we'll link to this article, obviously. But what we have here is a a watch complication that I just could not care less about in in a turbion. Uh I understand that they are a horological masterpiece and the craftsmanship that goes into them is second to none theoretically. Uh but I just um you know I I don't care. Maybe it's because I can't afford them that I don't care. Like, but I care about multimillion dollar houses and I definitely can't afford that. So
Everett do you care about multi-million dollar houses?
Andrew Uh yeah, I I like will r routinely doom scroll like luxury home listings and just look at them.
Everett I could care less. I couldn't care less.
Andrew Oh no, I love them. Interesting. Where like when I go into a house and I see like all of the outlet covers screws are facing the same direction, I'm like, man, this craftsman fucking cared.
Everett I am much more inclined to scroll
Everett through like brand
Everett new million-dollar construction that's
Everett fucking terrible. I find that fascinating. Oh,
Andrew I love seeing that. As a construction defect lawyer. Yeah.
Everett I find I love that too. Uh and also
Andrew OSHA is this okay? Uh the the rabbit holes go deep.
Everett McNech and hell. Uh
Andrew so what we have here, and I want to start first. This is thirty five hundred dollars. This is
Everett Which for a turbion is nuts. Nothing.
Andrew It is nothing. So this is a peacock PAX9610B in-house flying turbion caliber. It's manual widening, 288, 60 hour power reserve with a gyro max free sprung balance, four inertia weights, rainbow Geneva striping, snailing perlage, beveled screws, uh the nano
Everett four L steel. Yes, the whole
Andrew thing. 300 meters of water resistance. Because why not? 40 millimeter case, 47 lug to lug. Here's three or 12.2 thick hand executed Lindsay engraving on the green enamel dial, um
Everett like 300 waves or something.
Andrew The only way that I can make this make sense with the price is that somebody is trying to lose a bucket load of money in a business so they can write it off on their taxes.
Everett Oh, you think this is a uh you think this is a uh like a money laundering operation.
Andrew No, I think it's just that they're doing something really cool and they're totally finely look at the hands on these. I
Everett know the hands are f are fair. The hands are
Andrew are um totally solid but they're translucent. They're sapphire, aren't they? Like sapphire cut hands. Um I I but then the I came back to the title, the the Geneva of the East, and I was looking at this not even arguably affordable, this objectively affordable watch that comes with all the same bells and whistles that if you get out of Switzerland is gonna be five or more figures, and I can't I'm having trouble making it compute. As the watch goes, I look at it and I'm like, oh, that's a really attractive watch. And it could be made by any one of a handful of Swiss brands and costs way more money than uh I ever uh will be comfortable spending on a on a watch that I actually just don't care about. But then you like get into the spec sheet and the price and it just what's going on? Is this the the capabilities of Chinese manufacturing catching up now to Swiss manufacturing practices and methodologies and saying we can also do it and cheaper?
Everett Well, I I mean I think that that is that's precisely what's happened here. Um you know we
Everett take it for granted.
Everett We talked about this, I think, cut two weeks ago, maybe last week. You know, how how manufacturing in places like China and India are, you know, all of the manufacturing is happening there. So it's not a it's not a
Everett huge leap to suggest
Everett that in the place that makes everything and I mean and I mean everything everything from you know the most crude manufacturing practices to you know silicon and everything.
Andrew That's right. I mean, it it's not a giant
Everett leap to say, well, this place should be able to make a fucking turbine and package it in this wonderful, objectively wonderful package uh for for less
Everett they're gonna do it for less right
Andrew and they are right this is
Everett this is a a feat i would just i would just stop there. is This a feat. And uh you know, it makes this thing that is unobtaining for most people in most circumstances obtainable. Right? And and look let's not pretend like thirty five hundred dollars is
Everett is nothing. You
Everett know, it's it's more than I've spent on all but one of the watches I own. And and I think the same is true for you, Andrew.
Everett Yes. Uh you know, here
Everett we are, I think self-professed watch people. Um now some of you listening are gonna have spent much more on watches, and some of you listening, I would venture to guess, have never spent you know, maybe 20% of this on a watch. And that's okay. But but the point is, thirty five hundred dollars
Everett for a watch enthusiast is a number that's like it's somewhere it's rattling around in your head as
Everett achievable maybe in the future, maybe right now. This yeah you know versus
Everett say a hundred thousand
Everett or sixty thousand yeah a
Andrew thirty five hundred dollar wat watchch is a I can buy this year. A sixty thousand dollar watch is a watch that I'm
Everett never gonna buy. Never. Maybe maybe
Everett when you're retired and you are like okay, now's the time.
Andrew Or if I'm in a in a marked sidewalk and I get hit by a target truck.
Everett Right, and lose an eye. A
Andrew chunk. A piece of me. Yeah. Like more than what I leave on the pavement. Yeah..
Everett That's right I I mean this is not uh this is not an amount of money that's that's wild. And that's what what the where the feat exists,
Andrew right? This is something that you can't
Everett get because uh cause other there
Andrew are other turbines out there that have been produced by not hot horology who who somebody just did one recently
Everett yeah no you're not wrong about that who was that it was
Everett oh uh I think a Western company.
Everett Uh with that said, with that said, Andrew, it this is the first time I think I've seen a watch of this sort of provenance.
Andrew Ilk. Ilk that I thought,
Everett I'd wear that. I'd fucking wear this. I'd wear this watch. If I if I had this in my collection, I'd wear it. I don't love the bezel. I don't love the sort of dome sapphire
Andrew bezel. I hate the
Everett font on the bezel. Hate. Uh, but these are, and I hate those, I hate the notch bezel, it's just not my thing. But these are subjective criticisms. Uh this is a wonderful watch.
Everett Yes. And in
Andrew the realm of affordable. Really,
Everett really wonderful watch. Yeah, very cool. I I knew you were gonna pick that one. I did I don't have it on my list, but I I just I was reading and I was like, Andrew's gonna Andrew's gonna look.
Andrew The the title alone got me to read it and then I got to the bottom of the article and I was like, What the f What?
Everett What? Yeah. Um here's
Everett a here's a watch I saw only on a single
Everett website. And the website is
Everett a timely perspective. I know nothing about this
Everett website. Um but
Everett there are going concerns. I just don't know anything about them, and I don't think we've ever linked to a timely perspective on the show. But uh this is the only website I found this watch on. Um
Everett but it is a watch from Boulevard.
Everett It is a watch from Boulevard. Boulevard
Everett having uh started in New York in 1875 in
Everett this the very lower
Everett section of Manhattan. Uh Boulevard has released a watch for
Everett America's 250th anniversary and specifically for a New York regatta event uh where dozens of international tall ships, or maybe not a regatta event, maybe that's wrong, um dozens of international tall ships were gather for sail for
Everett 250, a six-day celebration marking
Everett the nation's 250 years of freedom. Blah blah blah. Uh
Everett it's a multi-day sort of sailing event that's going to happen in New York.
Everett t Wallith ships specifically. With specifically
Everett with tall ships to celebrate the 250th anniversary. Boulevard having their roots in New York has
Andrew the very lower end of Manhattan. Decided
Everett to come in and be the official watch for this and they've they've released I think a banger for this. This is a um a snorkel which is a watch that I really I really like it's I love the
Andrew versatility of the snorkel. I love that they've chosen this to be one of their collaborative platforms because it's so versatile, it's so easy to change without having to do much to. And all of every color iteration that you can throw on this has such an impact on the rest of the watch.
Everett They're releasing this in their high-tech ceramic, which is in all white, which is terrific with a blue and red bezel, um quartz movement in this, water resistant to 100 meters, um, and which is to say it is not a particularly
Everett special watch horologically speaking,
Everett um minus that high tech ceramic case. Uh
Everett but it's just it's lovely and
Everett it's red, white, and blue if you if you're into that sort of thing. We've got a a great sort of wave pattern on the red dial, which I love a red dial, uh, especially when it's tastefully done. And I think here it's tastefully done. Um
Andrew you can find this on the Bulova website also.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Under 300 bucks. Yeah.
Everett It's a snorkel, right? I just think it's great. I think if you were into something like this, if you're
Everett at all inclined to
Everett celebrate America in 2026. Uh this this might be a fun way to do it. Not at an all-time high right now. And that's all I have to say about that.
Everett With that said, what?
Everett With that said, I do really like this watch and I think it's a lot of fun. And I love the fact that Bulova's doing it in New York, which is their home. Uh this is great. This is a really cool release.
Andrew Uh it is.
Everett It it i you know, besides that,
Everett I just don't have much to say about it. I just liked it. I was like, I like this.
Andrew Uh, I have another one that I saw that I just liked, and I and I don't really care anymore
Everett to talk about it. Uh
Andrew the Tag Hoyer Formula One Automatic Chronograph Golf. Uh I I wish they did this on a Monaco or on a eraser. I just I love this colorway. It's that vertical light blue, the vertical orange. Uh
Everett traditional golf coloring, but with black
Everett instead of white. Yep. I I
Andrew I liked it. I have the even though I hate it.
Everett I don't like this watch. I don't like the I don't like the fancy schmancy modern Formula One.
Everett I just I think it's an ugly watch. It
Andrew it scratches an itch for me in a kind of an embarrassing way. It's like when you get that itch between your cheeks and you like have to turn your back to the wall to Is
Everett it titanium? Yeah. Gray two titanium.
Andrew It's a tag hoyer. Carbon carbon
Everett bezel. How much cool shit
Andrew can we put under this watch and ruin it? And and they did a fantastic job.
Everett Yeah. And then they redeemed it with the Gulf colored
Andrew wave. Yeah.
Everett Fair enough. You y you liked the watch, but that's all I want to talk about. Don't have much to say about it.
Everett Um Baltic. Baltic.
Everett Uh Baltic doing good things as ever. Really, really, really like the way Baltic releases watches. They've released a permanent scalegraph collection now. Um which was
Everett I think the scale graph was a limited
Everett version when it came out. They they've I I think they played with this design, but it's they
Andrew like put feelers out with their special and limiteds and then three years later it, becomes a catalog..
Everett That's right It's a sports chronograph,
Everett uh super, super traditional aesthetic. Uh but they have, you know, this is kind of I I want to say this is a this is a universal Geneve homage-ish, right? But not specifically. It's more just like that, that's the vibe that I I think Baltic is going for here. Um39 and a half millimeter sport chronograph.
Everett They've done a couple things here. One of the
Everett things they've done, which might not be immediately apparent, is they've beefed up
Everett the lugs. So Baltic
Everett sports chronographs tend to have very narrow lugs. It doesn't, I don't think
Andrew they beefed them up. I think they just made that end link wider to almost look blend into the lug?
Everett I don't think so. I think that they so I I went back and forth and I looked. I think they've beefed this up, which gives it a much sort of like more oomphy. The original scalograph has
Andrew plugs that kind of come into a point.
Everett And here we've got more of like a beefy sort of maxi case style thing. I think you're
Andrew overselling it. They are still very delicate lugs.
Everett Yeah, okay. I'm gonna
Everett just disagree. These are for this style of
Everett watch, these are beefy lugs.
Everett Uh we do have a Salita 510M, which is a manual wound 63 power 63
Everett hour power reserve chronograph,
Everett hand wound. Um which
Everett great, great, but it's still 14-1.
Everett Which i it's fine for a chronograph. Chronographs tend to be thick, but this is a 30 but like why go hand wound
Andrew 14-1, yeah. And you can't get it under 13.
Everett Why go hand wound and then not we've
Everett only got 100 meters of water resistance despite the fact that this looks like it's got screw down pushers. I do not believe it does. I think these pushers are just aesthetically. Yeah. Um, which looks good. I love it. Um
Everett but a hundred meters of water resistance. I, you know, I I thought, well, if if if we're gonna
Everett which is up from 50 meters on the original. But you know, you think, gosh, if we're gonna
Everett do this. Why not go
Everett all the way? Yeah, do it go all the way. I I
Everett don't know. Um we do have T marker. Dump it down
Andrew to thirty and pull it under 13. This is a beautiful
Everett watch. It comes in three colorways. There's sort of a blue, there's like a graphite, uh, and then and then like tan. Each of them has off-white subdials. They're
Everett great subdials. Big kills on
Andrew the blue. Baltic is really,
Everett really good. Color matched aluminum bezels, beads of rice bracelets on these, fantastic finishing.
Everett They did switch from a
Everett like a circumf uh a circular brushing on the lugs to vertical brushing, which I think actually cleans this watch up a lot. This is a great release. Yes. These are great watches and they're not expensive. I I mean they're seventeen hundred box. Yeah,
Andrew they're under two grand. Yeah. Uh
Everett which for a for a hand wound chronograph
Andrew that that's that's existing in a in a uncommon territory.
Everett Yeah. I love I
Everett love the way Baltic does its
Everett bezels. Uh this sort of sits above the watch, kind of saucer-like, you know, reminiscent of many, many watches that were existed that were released back in the 60s and 70s. This is just a very good-looking classic sports chronograph, um, with completely modern components and finishing. This is a terrific, this is a terrific release.
Andrew Concur. I like
Everett it, Baltic. Well done. Good good updates too to a really good existing platform.
Andrew Thank you for being iterative in a good way.
Everett Anything else, Andrew? I can probably delete
Andrew the rest of these links. I actually don't care about any of them.
Everett Other things, what do you got? Uh so
Andrew last week I did something I have not done since I was a child.
Everett You brush your teeth? No.
Everett Okay. Still waiting on that
Andrew one. Yeah, we're we're just going one step at a time. Uh so City of Eugene has a for a little while longer, a minor league baseball team and they play at the University of Oregon's baseball stadium. Tickets are always cheap. Uh and I've just never gone. Really? Never gone. So last week I uh the club does a they do partnerships for for every game and like all kinds of promotions to try to get people to come. So it was a uh fundraising and partnership night for boys and girls Club. It was also Princess Night. So if you came dressed up as a princess, you got in for like five bucks. If you were a boys and girls club kid, like your whole family got in. But my older son got to throw out one of the first pitches of the game. So two kids from his club got selected to go throw out the first pitch and he threw one out and it was the coolest thing ever. But then I obviously stayed to watch baseball and I was like, oh my gosh, why don't I do this?
Everett And you know, I have invited you to these games.
Andrew To more than one game. Uh and I just I just never go because like I don't I don't really care about watching baseball until like September, October when it's
Everett you're not really like a going out and doing sports games cut it's just not your
Everett vibe. I I I like going to duck games, but also
Andrew like like duck football games. But sure you know, for the last seven years I've it was easier to work at them because then I got in faux free and got paid. Right. And I didn't have to wait in traffic in either direction. Like it there was just it was, you know, it's whatever. But um if you're if you have a minor league team in your city, I just could not recommend more going because it it doesn't feel like a professional setting. It's fun, it's family-oriented. Uh it's a little silly because
Everett they're trying so hard. Like, not the
Andrew athletes, but the actual like front-of-house, like the team management that's there trying to promote the team. Uh man, it was just a blast. So if you have a team locally to you and you're and you're sleeping on this, wake up. Crawl out from under your rock. And trust me, I know I like the rock that I live under, go watch minor league baseball in your city.
Everett Yeah, we've got a couple of teams here locally. We've
Andrew the drifters are also That's right.
Everett We've got a college summer wood
Everett bat team, uh you know, a college summer league wood bat team. And then we've also got the M's, which uh the Emeralds, which are uh San Francisco Giants affiliate. Uh you know, I think in particular, if you follow like a regional major league team. There's a lot of opportunities to see up and
Everett comer farm club. You know, so,
Everett so I'm a Mariners fan. Um, good friend, friend of the show, Blaine Townton is uh is a Giants fan, you know, and so when the you know, the
Everett Everett Aquasocks, for instance, are playing in
Andrew That's who they were playing when I went to see in Eugene, right? They roasted 'em all night rather than putting the players' picture up when they were at bat, they put up different Disney princesses.
Everett That's pretty good. It was it was just like a
Andrew like no one mentioned it and they never stopped. It wasn't like just the first guy. It was just all night. Every time one of their batters was up, it was a Disney princess.
Everett You know, get a you get a chance to see,
Everett like, oh, oh, you know, and and do a little
Everett if you go, feel free to just to go,
Everett you know, raw dog it. But also if you
Everett do just a little bit of research,
Everett sometimes you get an opportunity to see it, like, oh, this guy is
Everett going to be in the major leagues
Everett next year, right? Or perhaps this year, right? Uh like this is this is a guy that's you know one of the top 100 prospects in the country, or or whatever, right? There could be some fun opportunities. And in fact, I've been to games before where, you know, there was a kid who was maybe he was only going to be in Eugene for five or six games. And then, you know, we go to a game and he he crushes a couple balls out, and you're like, that guy's gonna be a mariner by the end of the season. Sure enough, that season or next season, we see him on TV. You know, it's like
Andrew and you can get his autograph. Like, he wants your attention while he's playing in this farm league because he just doesn't make any money. He's just doing it for the love of the game.
Everett And I don't think you need that. You don't need
Everett that that sort of appreciation to enjoy the
Everett games because it's just, it's just a lot of fun too. It's just a lot of fun. So uh yeah, well uh well done. I'm glad you did that. And Mark's first pitch was
Andrew He didn't quite make it to the plate.
Everett No, it was it was But it it was almost a
Andrew catchable ball. Uh he was I was talking to him the night before and I was like, Well, are you nervous? And he's like, Yes, I'm nervous. I'm gonna be pitching against a professional baseball player.
Everett I mean not exactly. He didn't
Andrew realize that. Uh because he's like in the backyard, like
Everett sm like throwing, throwing the baseball
Andrew as hard as he can into the net. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm warming up, I'm practicing. I gotta practice. I was like, Okay, weirdo. And then I asked him, asked him later, I'm like, You're nervous? Like, yeah, I'm gonna be pitching as a professional baseball player. I'm like, no, no, you are not. It's just a like a a traditional thing where somebody is getting honored and they they throw the the pitch to the catcher. Like the the guy's not even in gear. Like you're just gonna throw him the ball. It's just like playing games. And there
Everett will be no batter. No. He's like, oh,
Andrew yeah, no, I'm not nervous. I'm fine.
Everett That's funny. Uh Andrew,
Everett I have got I've got another thing this week, and I think
Everett uh I I think this is the best
Everett thing that it this is
Everett one of those times where I've stumbled upon the best in class
Everett thing. Uh and so I
Everett want to talk about it a little bit. So the thing
Everett is, I'm gonna bury the lead a little bit here.
Everett The thing is quarter-inch
Everett hex uh holders,
Everett right? So the standard for you know an,ytime you
Everett have a bit, like a a a screwdriver bit, um
Andrew slime will get lost. It those
Everett are most likely quarter inch,
Everett and there's a couple different standards, but probably you're looking at like a E6.3
Everett standard bit. That's that's what we use, at least you know, in the United States and the Western world. And so
Everett if and there's all sorts of things that do this.
Everett You know oftentimes
Everett what we see is a a mechanical uh or excuse me a magnetic quarter inch hexagonal opening with a magnet in the bottom of it and I've
Everett got a number of options in my
Everett tool cabinet of at that exactly. In fact, I'm holding here a Japanese version of this. This is a vessel magnetic vessel's a Japanese company, uh magnetic quarter inch bit holder, and I'm just gonna hand it to you and you can feel the you can feel the engagement there. So basically
Everett you drop the bit in and it sinks into a very firm
Andrew you don't have to place it in. You just you just set it near ish.
Everett But now I I want you to go ahead and set it in there and now sort of manipulate the bit a little bit side
Everett to side and you know a
Andrew little play. There's a little play, right? Uh
Everett this is actually a fun device. It and
Everett plug it into this. Plug the butt the back end into that. So this is
Everett actually a rationing vessel.
Everett No no no no the the other side. Here. Let me
Andrew see. Yeah now I don't understand what you want. Oh, okay. now Now now I I understand.
Everett So this is a Vessel 2200 MBH. This is a Japanese made ratcheting screwdriver. It's
Everett wonderful. I love
Everett this thing. Uh it's a ratcheting screwdriver. It's pretty long. It's it you can
Everett you can pull the front off and turn it into
Everett a stubby, which is nice for accessibility. I
Everett love it. This was previously my favorite
Everett quarter inch bit driver.
Everett But there's a number I've got the
Andrew clicks are good. Very little bit of little bit of reverse play, but not like an offensive amount.
Everett I've also got Klein's got their flip uh their flip socket setup which I have and I and I really like and and with that setup you can you can lock one into
Everett they've got like a quarter inch flip
Everett socket that you can it's fine. Uh it's
Andrew also like untenably large. Well,
Everett that's because we got the flip sockets. You can pull those off anyway. It's fine. The lockup's not quite as
Everett good. The bit doesn't sit quite as well in there. It's
Everett got a little bit more play, but it works. If you just want to dry if
Andrew you use a Klein bit, like a brand match bit, does it fit better than DeWalt?
Everett No. No. It's sort of like so. I've got a DeWalt bit
Everett in there. And there's a reason. I bought a brought a bunch
Everett of different things. Now, this one is interesting, Andrew. This is actually a quarter-inch square to quarter inch hex. This is made by a Japanese company called Koken. And actually, that's not the best bit. Let's let's use that uh let's use that so this is a Japanese company called Coken this is a locking bit and this uh it it it will lock the bit in and it's nice but it's got just a ton of play. Coken's a great Japanese company, they make really cool shit. Um, but like
Everett manipulate that bit in the end of
Everett that holder. This is this
Andrew feels like one of those things that's designed to be loose to prevent it from breaking. Like it's it's like a torsion prevention like a mitigator.
Everett It is objectively a wild amount of play.
Andrew I like the lock though. The lock is nice.
Everett The lock is nice. I've also got this uh I've also got this locking clean
Everett uh impact. And this thing, this thing's interesting because it locks, and then you can also, it's got this like double lock system, so you screw this little thing up and okay, this is my favorite locking system. You
Everett feel how how much tighter that is.
Andrew As opposed to when that's that collar is open.
Everett That well, as opposed to anything else you've held. So the
Everett bit is held. It's quite a bit tighter.
Everett And and then I've got another I've got another vessel. We don't need to go through every one of these, but I
Everett recently picked up a
Everett what's called a Ouija ha Weha's a
Everett German company. How
Everett do you unlock this? Uh so
Everett you first unscrew that. Yep. Yep. Unscrew that.
Andrew It's all the way open. And then you pull down that black collar. Oh, the middle collar. Yeah. There you
Everett go. And it comes out. So the locking mechanism. This is the Klein impact. I like this one a lot. It's specifically for like plugging into like an impact driver. That's what this
Everett is for. Um Andrew, I picked
Everett up a Wii Haw, this is called the
Everett Centrifix Power Blade Holder.
Everett Um this thing is nuts.
Andrew Is this is this just like what tolerance is made
Everett for. This is the best
Everett blade holder that exists
Everett in the world. I'm I'm confident of that. So it is a simple up to unlock, down to lock. You
Everett slide a bit in. There's
Andrew just no it
Everett is like. So I've got a
Everett bunch of different blades. And we don't have to stick them all in there, but what I do have here is I've got these long. This is a just a Oehaw
Everett impact blade, but hand me
Everett that. So it it's not just these bits, it's every single bit I've ever tried in this thing's this is a long this is a four inch impact bit I'm just gonna plug this thing in here and hand it to you because this is all of a sudden it's a screwdriver.
Andrew Yeah, that's like a solid shank. There's no
Everett it it is no it
Everett is no less stable. I've
Everett just handed Andrew like a Klein, just a solid shank Klein rubber grip.
Andrew That thing is uh I
Everett it is these things are incredible they're made in Germany. A lot of Wiha stuff is made in in the Czech Republic. These are made in Germany. And it is, I think this is the finest tool of its kind that exists on earth. It doesn't ratchet. It's got nothing fancy.
Andrew Besides uh probably the most exceptional locking mechanism we've ever seen.
Everett If you use it and
Everett so it is kind of a deep, so if you stick if you stick tiny like one inch bits in there, they kind of tend to get lost. But anything longer than a
Everett like a a 50 millimeter or a two-inch
Everett bit or, you know, in particular, these longer four-inch bits, you stick them in there, and it is it's a screwdriver, Andrew. And and so if you want to have one handle that you can put any number of bits. Here I've got just this is just a Wi-Ha impact bit
Everett set or the whatever they call these the Terminator Blue or whatever.
Everett Um and here
Everett I've got I've got like a Torx 20, Torx 25, I've got Ebery Phillips, but I've got
Everett Square Bits. If I carry this
Everett and this, I've got pretty much any bit I'll ever need. And this thing is absolutely locked in.
Andrew What's it called? It's the Oehaw
Everett Power blade holder. We haw power blade holder. So I think it's the quarter inch
Everett uh or it's the 387, we haw 387 power blade bit holder. Uh again, no ratcheting mechanism, nothing fancy. It's got a fantastic wee how it makes really nice handles. So you've got a good rubber grip, very ergonomic. And they're not super expensive either. It's like 30 bucks. Well,
Andrew this one, the soft finish Torque Vario, uh
Everett No, that's not that one. 175
Andrew bucks. But the uh the soft finish centro fix bit holder centroids.
Everett Yeah. Forty bucks. Forty bucks.
Everett It it is if you use if you use quarter inch hex bits at all, this thing is absurd. I cannot believe how firmly it holds.
Andrew It doesn't uh it doesn't really make sense because it it sh
Everett it's got a series of ball bearings in here in two different positions and they run along the shank. So when you lock that down, it is mechanically pushing those bearings all of
Andrew them into the sides, which gives
Everett you I mean it's because of the length of
Andrew the of the bit that that it can accept. It's not just using a magnet, it's not using friction. That's right.
Everett And it's both up and down and it's
Andrew almost like using a uh a chuck to tighten it down.
Everett Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. It's crazy. I I
Everett mean it you'd think like other companies should be able to do this, but I have just about every quarter inch.
Everett I've got just about every quarter inch
Everett holder, some form of that or another, that you can possibly own. And there's nothing like this.
Andrew This is just best in class. I love
Everett it. We haw central, there'll be there'll be a link in the show notes. Central fix, power blade holder it's terrific
Andrew it's uh it's a league in its own it's
Everett it's the craziest thing so anyway that's i i picked it up i've i haven't bought one you know weha's
Everett kind of a weird brand they make some they're kind of like the Klein tools of Europe, which is
Everett to say they make some
Everett really good, you know,
Everett uh carefully sort of provenanced
Everett stuff, and then they have a whole bunch of skews that's just trash as well. Um, but I think they like so many companies, if you get the right stuff, it is really, really good. This tool is
Everett that's all I have to say about that. All right. Well, you've
Andrew done it. I said a lot. I would say, you know, a little.
Everett Anything else you want to add? No, I'm out of
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