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Longines Nails its Refresh, Omega Bombs (387)

Published on Tue, 31 Mar 2026 22:12:49 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of the 40 and 20 WatchClicker podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss recent watch releases and their busy lives with kids' sports activities. They cover several significant releases including Tissot's downsized 38mm Gentleman collection, which Andrew sees as a spiritual successor to the discontinued Seiko SARB. The hosts express enthusiasm for Baltic's new Digitrend NASA edition and the Horz Demond GMT with stunning stone dials. They're particularly impressed by the updated Longines Hydro Conquest, calling it a compelling alternative to the Tudor Black Bay at a better price point.

The conversation takes a critical turn when discussing Omega's new Constellation release, which both hosts find disappointing due to its oversized dimensions (nearly 40mm and 12.5mm thick) and excessive price point of $12,000 for what they consider an unnecessary application of the Master Chronometer movement. In contrast, they praise Raymond Weil's 50th anniversary chronograph featuring restored Valjoux 236 movements as a thoughtful and well-executed release. Andrew shares his molecular gastronomy experiment making watermelon caviar with his kids, while Everett recommends both the book and film adaptations of "Project Hail Mary," praising how each medium handles the story differently but effectively.

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Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 and 20, the WatchClicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett Just crushing it. Uh no, I'm good. Uh I was trying to come up with I have nothing to report. I'm doing great. I'm doing well. Uh oh. Baseball season. Did I already talk about this? You've
Andrew caught talked about it a couple times. Oh Mariners
Everett won their first game against the Yankees last night. And then I think they lost tonight. But uh we're just gonna talk about the Mariners beating the Yankees.
Andrew Yeah, that's what's important. That is what's important. Because sports in the spring are in full swing. Winter sports are winding down. Uh you may listen to this in March, but likely you're gonna hear this in April. Um yeah. I'm still I like I got home from a practice and shoved some food in my face and finished up the little odds and ends that need to happen before we can record. And I'm still wearing shoes. I don't I don't know. The last time I wore shoes when we recorded. And not slippers, to be clear. We've established that both of us are feet never nudes. Um, but yeah, I don't know. Last time I wore shoes.
Everett Now I mean I wear shoes all the time because I have to come across the street.
Andrew But you also wear slippers about 50% of the time.
Everett Maybe not quite 50%, but yeah, more more times than
Everett yeah, often enough. Yeah.
Andrew Even in the wet. It's it's a short walk. It's a very short walk, yeah. It's a short walk. It's the most people's walk to their mailboxes from our front doors.
Everett Yeah. I mean yeah. That's right.
Andrew Not just in our street, but just generally speaking, most people have to travel further to their mailbox than we do door- toto- doordoor.
Everett Yeah, that's right. I think you're right. It's super convenient. Easy enough to do the math on that. But uh Andrew, how are you?
Andrew Uh I'm good. I'm, you know, I'm enjoying finally like, my body not being shocked by the tree allergens. So I'm like actually feeling good and starting to enjoy this spring weather that we're intermittently enjoying. Uh yeah, kid activities, man. Four nights a week. We are slam packed. And then starting this Saturday, we've got doubleheaders every Saturday for the next six weeks. Lacrosse doubleheaders? Yep. How long does
Everett that take? Well, it depends. A couple
Andrew of their games are back to back, but some of them one starts at nine and one starts at one.
Everett Ooh, brutal. So your entire
Andrew day is How long is the lacrosse game? An hour.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The
Andrew back to back ones I feel bad for the kids, but I prefer them.
Everett Yeah, that's not I mean an hour's not bad. You know,
Everett the baseball game, the doubleheaders, you know, there's less they're less strenuous for the kids. I think
Everett easier on the kids, but for the parents, like
Everett get ready for the next six hours of your life. That's why you can
Andrew trust baseball dad's opinion on what uh folding chair to get.
Everett I can make you a good recommendation. Yeah, for sure.
Andrew Yeah. Uh no, and I I do feel bad for the kids for lacrosse doubleheaders and especially this age group. So this is the first year he's gonna play on a hundred and twenty-yard field. Um so nine nine fiyeld plaers in a goalie per team and lacrosse very much like soccer is played almost entirely in transition.
Everett Yeah, I was gonna well I was gonna ask you, is this is it like line
Everett change like hockey or is it like substitution
Everett like soccer? It's line changes like hockey
Andrew that have to be learned, right? 'Cause hockey line changes are an art, right? Like when to when to sub and you know it's it's incumbent on the player who's like making these decisions kind of on the move, like well no, we're on defense, so I don't care it doesn't matter if you're tired. Like sorry,
Everett run more. Um So
Andrew we'll see. You know, fifth and sixth graders are still you can s like the kids who really are standout players are are are not just like athletic kids, but they're smart kids, right? They're the kids who can look at and understand the field. Like they have a high sport IQ for the game. And those are really the kids that kind of pull away in this age. And then that gap kind of closes because you know, as kids get older, everyone starts to understand the concepts of the game. But uh yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting. These kids are wiped at the end of practice. Like, I mean, you know, Mark, he's happy go lucky and chipper all the time.
Everett He's dead after practice. Oh, he he's
Andrew like dragging his bag and like one leg. You'd think he just came home from the trenches of Flanders at when he gets home from lacrosse practice. I'm like, dude, it's 75 minutes. You're okay.
Everett You're gonna be all right. Yeah. It's like it's
Andrew just seventy-five minutes. Yeah.
Everett Yeah, that's uh no, you it it's it's a fun, it's a fun time. You know, it's right about now, fifth and sixth grade where they s really start to you, know, grasp the sport
Everett beyond where's the ball, right? The you know, fourth
Everett grade, you know, those elementary school kids really do a lot of ball watching and um they get into
Everett middle school and they start to conceptualize you know
Everett strategy beyond beyond
Everett that off ball movement
Andrew when I coached soccer this last season that was my entire thing was off ball movement. If you had the ball, you couldn't move.
Everett Yeah. And if it if you lost it,
Andrew like that's on you. We
Everett were working with at baseball practice tonight, we're working with the kids on um like base running scenarios, right? So infielders, running baseball, base running scenarios, right? So you got a guy first and third. What's the play? From
Andrew everyone runs home. Yeah, well, direct
Everett route. They're you know, you know, thinking about like, okay, well, if I throw to second base to get the guy stealing second, that leaves third
Everett open. But these kids are still doing that a a
Everett lot at thisge a guy steals first that catcher pops up and throws to second
Andrew and but it's the the steal from third
Everett that's right you know it's like 130 right to make that throw though it's this huge
Everett throw. Which isn't even
Andrew easy as an adult. That's right. No, it's a hard
Everett throw. And so there, you know, inevitably what happens is the guy from third just waits for the throw and then he's popped a home. Uh well
Andrew and he's home before the ball has even made it to second.
Everett You know, so showing him hey, if you pop up and you throw the ball, look like you're you know, signal you're gonna throw to second, and then instead throw to the pitcher, all of a sudden we've got options. Uh so you know it I I guess the point is just uh
Everett it's cool to see like they're at that
Everett age now where you can layering in
Andrew tactics. That's right. Yeah, that's right.
Everett Like that we're no longer just uh catch-rowth hit. We're like actually playing baseball and
Everett it's super fun. I'm having so much fun with it. So
Everett uh but in any event, we're not here to talk about lacrosse or baseball. Rather, we're here to talk about watches, watches, wrist watches, those things that you wear on
Everett your wrist or perhaps in your pocket.
Everett Um rarely. Uh Andrew, do you wanna do you wanna lead us off?
Andrew You're such a gentleman that you would let me lead it off with a show that you sent me all the same links I sent you.
Everett I didn't look at your links. That makes
Andrew sense. I want to start with Tissot. So Tissot has sized down the gentleman collection to 38 millimeters. And I gotta say, just top down right on this, this is very much T so, but this fills a gap that was left by the Sarb in a like not one-to-one way, but really, really close. This is a high polished, thin, thin outer bezel. It doesn't have that same sexy Sarb step. But this price range, right? What are we looking at? Oh, where's the 695 Swiss francs? So under a thousand dollars. This zone has been missing, I think, a dress sport watch as refined as the Sarb since the Sarb's demise, right? There's there's a few things out there that that kind of fit the bill, but not quite the same way the gentleman does now sized down to a 38. I think I would prefer it as a 36, but 38 is an excellent uh alternative step in the right direction, perhaps. So what we have is a 38mm case, 11.53 height, 100 meters of water resistance, the power matic 80 movement. This is this this is the natural successor, I think, now to the SARB, which I think this our affordable space has been missing, right? Like a large production, wellufac-mantured dress sport watch. You know what what else is there?
Everett You know, I'm struggling to come up with something. I
Everett I I didn't I don't think Sarb at all when I see this. Oh, I can understand why why you do. Um it didn't it didn't come to my mind and and looking at it I'm like
Everett yeah sure that makes a lot of sense uh but
Everett certainly didn't pop into my mind. That's
Andrew right where I went when I saw it. Yeah. No,
Everett I I mean I'm the way it is at least. I do think that there are other watches that fit this bill, but this is
Everett great. twice in two weeks. That's
Andrew not unusual. I think it is. I
Everett I mean I can't T so kinda we they lulled
Andrew at the end of last year, but early last year, I think T so does the bulk of their push ahead of all the watch shows. Like I think the first quarter of the year we see the most T so releases. I could be wrong. Fact check me if you will and I don't care. That's when I feel like we talk about T so the most is early in the year.
Everett Yeah. Because this isn't PRX.
Andrew This is like a modern. There's nothing about this that screams vintage inspired, right? This is just a modern dress sport watch that's affordable, that's well spec. And I love it.
Everett Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and at, you know, 37 by
Everett 12. I think it I
Everett think, if I remember right, the SARB is
Everett just a hair under 12, but I mean it's right it it's right there, you know, yeah, dimensionally. I
Everett think it's it's a super similar
Everett certainly a more boring case,
Everett but that's not bad, especially for a watch like this, right?
Andrew Yeah. I I th I think the SARB was kind of in a league of its own and remains so and will kind of always be like this, you know, flash in the pan of uh really, really refined, elegant watch making at a super affordable price, right? It's it's it's it happens a lot, right? But the Sarb was was kind of in a league of its own.
Everett For what it's worth, I do think you can still get a Seiko Sarb for
Andrew they're eight hundred bucks. Yeah.
Everett Um but y you know this is a a
Everett pretty reasonable this is a pretty reasonable alternative.
Andrew Chrono twenty four right now, they are uh just my quick Google list. They're they're sitting a thousand bucks right now. Shit, I need to sell my SARB.
Everett Yeah, yeah, I mean six hundred
Everett and thirty.
Everett Mine's in pretty good shape. Mine's mine's not
Andrew in like new shape, but it's in I'd say used very good.
Everett I think if you pay attention, you could probably get one of these
Everett for under five hundred used, obviously. But
Everett um yeah, no the just just just on the T cell. I think this is a really cool, a really good looking option. I like the N link, even though it's a mail in link. I thought they did just a great job with this all around. It's
Everett um you know, in some ways,
Everett we talked about that visidate last week. In some ways, I I think that this is the
Everett earny to the visidate birth, you know, really uh
Everett two very similar watches, but uh but doing the similar or same or similar thing in in two really different ways. I I like this release a lot. And and you know, is not anything different than the 40, in fact, I I want to
Everett say but it's sized better, right? The a
Andrew 40 millimeter gentleman is a 42 millimeter bambino. Give us the right size, right? Yeah. Uh four dial colors on this, silver, black, blue, or green. I think I'm the silver's definitely silver. It's not crispy Arctic white. But it's it's pretty pretty light silver. Yeah.
Everett Of these, the only color I think I'd wear is the
Andrew black. Oh. Yeah. I I
Everett I probably wouldn't rock it. The green. I would definitely
Everett wouldn't rock the silver. The blue's nice. It's
Everett not a bad blue, but um it's
Andrew not Tudor blue, but it's a I I like that blue.
Everett It's sort it's not quite petrol, but it's got sort of that
Andrew your fucking blue gun metal
Everett y thing going on. Um
Andrew Pantone six four two one blue.
Everett Yeah, I th I think you're actually like for someone who talks
Everett about watches, your watch vocabulary is
Everett embarrassingly low. But perhaps.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. My my vocabulary
Andrew of blue is you're you're
Everett you're on a thing where you you bring it up every week and I'm like Andrew we talk about watches you could maybe come up with other words
Andrew I just I blue is blue to me. Maybe I'm colorblind. Yeah or
Everett just stupid one of the two. Perhaps we'll
Andrew flip a coin. Amida. Oh yes.
Everett Amida released a watch this week, which very similar to a watch they released last year, but it's just
Andrew ungroup. Interesting
Everett enough that I thought we'd talk about it. So this is the Amida Digitrend. So I think the Digitrend was released in I want to say
Everett 2025. Oh, I thought
Andrew it was before that. Uh you know, you it you
Everett could 2024. Okay. Revival
Andrew debut in 2024. Because there was that big push. A bunch of there was like five of these watches released these like horizontal view yeah digitals
Everett um and and so this is the same as
Everett that it's it's a uh you know roughly 39 by 39 millimeters stainless steel monocock case, uh, which sits on top of your wrist and is meant to be viewed from the side. So we've got a uh it y yeah yeah, we've we've it's a
Everett side view, right? Um similar
Everett to the cascade from Garrett Perigo or or or whatever, right?
Andrew The the dozen that got that came out in the last three years.
Everett They've released this now in a NASA edition limited to a hundred pieces, and it is it's really cool, right? It's got sort of like a space shuttle thing going on with uh a prominent NASA snak
Everett uh what do we call it worm logo at well on the top. I was gonna say at six o'clock or at four thirty, but it's not
Andrew it's on the it's on the top the case top. That's right. The cover, perhaps.
Everett And you know, it comes with a bunch of cool shit. We've got like a Kennedy Space Center patch and uh
Andrew It's the the it's like a quilted uh hook and loop back Strap on this thing. It's kind of bizarre, but like sort of fits.
Everett Yeah, textile on rubber on the strap. It sort of gives you like some EVA suit. I was thinking like
Andrew the like the inside of like a of a of a bulkhead. Right? It's like that sharp little screen. Yeah, when you bonk your nugget, it's not like on onto the aluminum foil thin hole. It's it's on some kind of padding.
Everett The white portions are so stainless
Everett steel. The white portions are polished white ceramic. Um
Andrew cool. Uh which actually
Everett uh the the worm
Everett logo is a shuttle era logo and and the shuttle used a polished ceramic
Everett heat shield. Uh so there's a
Everett bit of like this was some Easter eggs here. Uh this thing's pretty cool, man. I I mean it it's an expensive watch,
Everett right? So these things come in
Everett at I think $30,400
Everett Swiss francs, only 100 of these available. Uh
Andrew what's the non-NASA? Isn't that much off of this price point though?
Everett Yeah, no, I I mean it's this is this isn't a ton more expensive. It is a base caliber
Everett so prod Newton, the P092, and they've got the jumping hour module
Everett is developed in-house and added on top.
Everett Dimensions, I you know, we could talk about dimensions.
Everett I don't really think that's super meaningful. Um,
Everett but it's it's not small,
Everett right? 39 by 39 by
Everett 156 thick. 50 meters of
Andrew water. Otherwise you can't read it.
Everett Yeah that's right. That's right. That's why I said dimensions are common.
Andrew The the legibility comes entirely from fifteen six.
Everett Um online orders opened
Everett yesterday, I believe,
Everett I believe there are still some of these left. So uh scheduled delivery
Everett in May, uh $4,420
Everett American dollars if you go to the website. Uh as of the
Everett time of recording, which is probably about
Everett 10 hours, maybe, maybe
Everett eight hours before the time this will publish. Well,
Everett we'll actually publish tonight. So depending
Andrew on when you hear this, I think there may be some
Everett of these left if if you're really into that. And I
Everett I can s I mean this might be something that you just
Everett take a flyer. This is cool. It's an expensive watch.
Andrew Horizontal read watch design. I'm surprised never really gained any traction for stick pilots. What do you mean? Like stick and yoke. Imagine imagine you're flying on on like aviation controls. Where's your watch facing away from you? But this horizontal read, when you're controlling your yoke, whether it be a yoke or a s or a stick air platform, you're looking at your wrist. You know, not like a motorcycle. When they when they angle it, when you're when you're angled and you can see it. Not like you know that that angle of viewing time on your watch, I'm I'm surprised has never gained any traction from like auto sports or aviation. Because you it's just a quick glance down to view your instrument, which a watch in this environment is an instrument. Um I'm just
Everett yeah no there's ergonomically it makes perfect sense.
Andrew Yeah there's some pragmatic reality to that to
Everett what you're saying. Yeah. It it just it
Andrew never cause it's weird.
Everett It it is weird. I mean I I I think
Everett that that's you you sort of hit the nail on the head. I think that's really all you have to say about it. It's weird. Um but cool. Undoubtedly cool. You
Andrew want to know something else weird? Tell me. Doxa Sub 200 number two collection. That's weird. Uh it's it's weird for So the 200 came out what a long time ago, but in twenty nineteen it was revived and was met with some kind of mixed reviews. Because it's a round case. It isn't the the Doxa case that you think about. But the size was amazing. And then people loved it. So the mixed reviews were like, oh, it's not Doxa, but it's also sized really great and I love it. Um the new
Everett Doxa 200 sub 200
Everett 2 uh comes
Andrew with five new colorways, and they beefed up the size. So if you weren't a fan of the 38 millimeter case that is now that was released, it is now available in a 44. Was it a 38 or a 40? I doesn't matter. It's now available in a 44 with a 48 lug to lug, 12.8 thick. It still has an SW200 movement. Um Um it 200 meters of water resistance. Uh and the same the same price, right? It's still 1700 bucks on rubber, seventeen hundred and fifty bucks on a bracelet. It's a weird like I I just I don't understand the why why grow the watch, right? They have it almost as like they're they're releasing a competitor for their up market watches you
Everett know I don't think increasing the size I don't think it's
Everett as small as you're recalling. I I wanna say the
Andrew two hundred is it that was what like what got people excited. Is it a forty or a thirty-eight?
Everett No, I want to say it's forty two. Is it really? Yeah.
Everett I I don't think uh I think your recollection
Everett is is
Everett that it was small.
Everett Forty two on the Forty two. Oh,
Andrew I thought it was smaller. Um either way, this is this is now a big no bullshit round dive watch from Doxa that I think is
Everett you know, I st I think because of the way they proportion this,
Everett so so one looks great. I still have the liar lugs.
Everett I actually think that this isn't gonna wear all that
Everett bigger. Also, we've gone from fourteen
Everett millimeters to twelve eight. I think this thing's gonna wear better
Everett than the original sub two hundred. That's my
Andrew it may vary. That's my take on it. Because the seven fifty wore like a dream and and was like wearing a manhole cover in size, but it it wore like an absolute dream.
Everett I think this is actually a really great
Everett update. Well, it's not an update. It's
Andrew an iteration like it's a it's an also two. So these are
Everett both of them. Uh yeah, they're gonna keep
Andrew the forty two millimeter and they've now introduced it in forty four. Right now they've got four colorways: the red coral, shark hunter vintage, shark, oh, five colors, excuse me, shark hunter, Caribbean, and sea emerald. But I think we can reasonably expect that in the next six months, we're going to see about a dozen color releases for the sub two hundred two uh to match the entire lineup, right? This is kind of a doxa thing to do, like hey, we have this new watch in three colors, and then um or in a limited edition. and And then then the the actual platform gets unrolled with the typical dozen Doxa colors. I just think it's interesting for the two hundred, which was meant to be kind of a lighter tour tending towards a skin diver for Doxa to then size it up to match the size of the 300, 300T, and not quite the 750, but still like to size it up and match that. I think it's an interesting uh size iteration that we talk about we want brands to do, right? Give it, give me, release the watch, give it to us in three sizes, and they're all gonna sell out. Cause then everyone gets what they want.
Everett Yeah. Th thus far, my only objection to this is that at this point we don't see I don't see any indication that they're gonna release this with a bead of rice.
Andrew No, it's the mesh. Yeah.
Everett So w you know, I think we've yet to
Andrew I think in six in the next six months we'll see this on a beads of rice with the twelve normal with however many colors it is. I think it's twelve.
Everett Uh I I really like the size update on this. I think this makes this a more from for my part a more interesting
Andrew update for sure. The thin or the thinness. Got it on that Jenny Craig and
Everett Yeah, I I I like it. Uh
Everett gnomos, uh just quietly
Everett doing gnomos things,
Everett which I I know a lot of people don't
Everett people have said to me recently more, than one person has said to me, I've
Everett never got gnomos. I'm
Everett like, there's nothing to get. It's a watch,
Everett you idiot. Uh
Everett but I think I understand what they mean, right? Gnomos is just weird they're different the way they do the way they do releases
Everett is different um they're
Everett like this bizarre
Everett sort of and like
Everett affordable and yet in-house
Everett and like they're kind of a middle finger,
Andrew but in the most polite way. Like from Nana. Like getting the middle finger from Nana.
Everett Right. Um they've released
Everett they've released just they were just like, oh, here's two new versions
Everett of the club campus on both sizes. Um
Andrew don't mind us. Like,
Everett hey, well, you you guys, if you if you're interested. Uh so uh we've got a full
Everett olive and then what they're
Everett calling a well excuse me, full
Everett rose and all olive. Um
Everett which I just think these are both terrific.
Andrew The all olive in the the small is that has my number.
Everett Yeah, you you know it these do were really
Everett small. So it with with long lugs, they're it's kind of an interesting club campus is a weird.
Everett I used to like be really into it and thought that's what I want. And then I tried on a 38 and I was like, oh
Everett it like I I I think it's not
Everett gonna work for everybody. Uh yeah, that's
Everett confirmation. The Yankees lost or the
Everett Yankees won the second game in the Mariners series.
Everett I know everybody at home has been waiting for my update on that.
Andrew On pins and needles. They paid for the whole seat, but they only needed the edge. So now sit back, get comfortable, and we'll keep talking about watches.
Everett But in terms of colors, man, the this the the the the the
Everett full rose is like this dusty
Everett pink that's got like s a little
Everett bit of like mauve
Andrew it it looks tan purple thing
Everett going on. Uh your
Andrew boots after you spent the day walking through cinder block. Right. Like sin like a freshly cindered road that dried out. It looks like that.
Everett Of course California dials on these mana club campus, small seconds. Um
Everett I I think these are
Everett great. If you are not a
Everett Neanderthal and you like thin
Everett watches. Gnomos has your
Andrew back. These are both eight
Everett point one and eight or these are eight point one and eight point four millimeters thick respectively. Uh like all club campuses, right? Very, very
Andrew thin, super wearable
Everett on that Z dimension. Those lugs might get
Everett you though. They get some people. Uh
Andrew because it's a very flat watch. Yeah, they're super flat. Bigger would be like Speedmaster Hangover the Edge.
Everett Yep. Long. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Everett Um you are getting uh in-house
Everett manual wind movement, hundred meters of water resistance. Uh the the sort of in-house their swing
Everett system escapement i i mean really a compelling if you
Andrew care it's a vegan velour strap
Everett eighteen ninety for the small one,
Everett 2070 for the big one. Um
Everett Yeah, you can get sapphi sapphire case back for an additional three hundred bucks. So it's a pretty movement. So
Andrew Sapphire? Sapphire. Never heard you make that noise before.
Everett Um yeah, these are just these are really, really terrific.
Andrew The all olive is the first time I think that I've seen a gnomos and gotten like it's it is phenomenal. Because it's an interesting contrast, right? It's a really like OD, like ammo can, olive green uh on this really modern design. Like it there's a contrast there between that color, at least the way my my brain sees that color, and a California dial with small seconds high polish um yeah
Everett you know I'm I'm
Everett just noticing something isn't aren't the no Roman numerals
Everett normally on top in a California dial?
Everett So this has ten, twelve,
Everett and two in Arabic and
Everett and then four and
Everett eight in isn't
Everett a California dial dial normally.
Andrew But I think you're I that feels right. Like as you're saying it now, it didn't occur to me, but I I do think that typically I see six and eight
Everett Yeah, you know, I've just never uh this has
Everett never occurred to me before, but it's like an upside
Everett down code. What's that effect? What's that
Andrew called? Where where you like see the thing or think of the thing that's actually wrong?
Everett I don't know. When everyone like misquotes the movie
Andrew because it's been so misquoted. Oh yeah, I know what you're
Everett talking about. It's the it's some kind of i
Andrew it's an effect thing where I want to say it's like Nielsen but it's not uh like one small one stall one small step for man and one giant leap for mankind is in fact not what was said, but it's so repeated. Right.
Everett Luke, I am your father. Yeah, exactly.
Everett Yeah. Yeah.
Everett Interesting. Oh um
Andrew How about we talk about the new Baltic colors.
Everett Or just the new Baltic watch watch. Yeah.
Andrew Yeah, but I want to talk about the colors. So
Everett of the new watch? Can
Andrew can we do it one step at a time, please? Uh so Baltic is often like kind of somewhere between either on the cutting edge or like right on the bleeding trail. Like they're either first to it or last to it, I feel like, with Baltic. So they have now introduced a new model. I was kind of hoping that you were going to talk about this one, but I want I I want to talk about the watch itself. Uh you
Everett want to take a swing at that name?
Everett Um Horz Demond, maybe?
Everett Yeah. Or's de Mond. Okay.
Andrew It is a 37 millimeter, 11.3 with the crystal, 9.3 without. And I I I'm kind of annoyed that that we've made such a big deal as watch enthusiasts that an 11.3 GMT is unacceptable to us, but they have to qualify it with but
Everett without this box crystal, it's only
Andrew 9.3, which is baller in hundred meters of water resistance soaprod C125 GMT movement 42 hours of power reserve with four hertz move with four hertz not chronometer uh 1300 bucks so now let's get into it. We have three amazing stone colorways.
Everett We have a stone dials. They were they're stone dials. Yeah, well
Andrew stone, yeah, stone dials, stone colorways, we have three great colors. The sodalite in blue, lavadorite in gray blue, and tiger's eye. These are absolutely killer. Independent of the fact that Baltic makes a really, really fantastic GMT. The design on this is great. We have a really traditional world timer bezel on this that's excuse me, double stacked thick. Uh so it's a thick, thick bezel. Um internal twenty-four hour track and then the stone dials that are like I bitched in the last month uh that I was I'm over stone dials and and it's like Baltic herd me and they're like, Don't worry, man. We got you. And they dropped three gorgeous iterations of stone dials on this world timer GMT. So this uh the blue is is the most boring because it's just gorgeous. The Labradorite Labradorite which I assume is a meteorite found in Labrador?
Everett Can we it's no? Can we can
Everett it can you give me just about 15 seconds?
Everett No. Yeah, give me 15 seconds. Uh
Everett so this is great. Labrador. So I know nothing about minerals.
Everett Let's just start there. Labradite. Labradorite
Everett is a plagioclase feldspar mineral. Famous for
Everett labradorescence. It's from the Crystal System Triclinic.
Andrew It's not a meteorite? Why would they call it iT?
Everett And it's primarily found in mafic
Everett igneous rocks such as basalt,
Everett gabbro, and anarthocyte.
Everett Anorthocyte. We are have we have enough
Andrew trouble with words. Why would they do this? I
Everett just wanted to say all those words that I have no clue what they mean. That's all I wanted to do. I was just reading about this and I was like,
Everett who the fuck wrote this? First
Everett of all. Second of all, why is it
Andrew not a meteorite if it ends with iight. I
Everett don't know, buddy. I don't accept it. Uh it's a meteorite
Andrew in my head. Uh it's not. It's stone. I accept this now. I don't like it. Um it is gorgeous. It's like cutting into like aged, thick, hard packed ice. There's great tones of black and blue and white that cut through it. Uh and it is absolutely gorgeous. The tiger's eye is a tiger's eye. We've all seen that. It's this really lovely orange and yellow kind of sandy the beautiful colorway. Uh but this labaderite that grows in basalt. Does it grow? It's a crystal then. I mean like I don't fucking know.
Everett I think it's it's igneous,
Everett so no, I wouldn't I don't think it grows.
Andrew You made that word up. Uh I
Everett think this comes on an Italian calf leather strap,
Andrew beads of rice, or a steel flat link. Uh these Baltic is just knocking it out of the park on this release.
Everett Yeah, so this is actually. There's
Everett more there's more going on here than meets the eye. Um, or perhaps than meets the eye.
Everett This is a this
Everett is a callback to the original world timer styling, which is to say it's not just a bezel with city names on it. There's also an internal rotating disc. So what Baltic has done is taken the hour module or the date module, excuse me, and slipped in this disc along the outer ring of this dial that rotates
Andrew slipped into the DM on a 24
Everett hour cycle. So the idea is that you can in theory tell the local time via the two internal hands or the two central rotating hands. But at any given moment, you can also see what time it is anywhere in the city or anywhere in the world, right? So if you want to know what time it is in Isnambu, you just look at that outer ring and it'll tell you Hora Hemplo that it's you know three o'clock or whatever in uh well
Andrew if it's set to Istanbul time.
Everett No no that doesn't make
Andrew sense no no it the
Everett you the bezel and that
Everett rotating ring rotate separately
Everett and so it's an ongoing
Everett It's a constant
Andrew No that doesn't expression of time brain. So you rotate your bezel to the brain. No, you don't have
Everett to touch your bezel. It all because the ring rotates on a 24 hour cycle, it always tells you what the time is in those places.
Andrew Against what? It
Everett it doesn't matter, right? Because it
Everett it rotates. It it
Everett rotates, right? So right, you know, so look at this. Look at the picture. Look at the lead picture.
Andrew No, I see it. I understand because we have a sun and a moon marker on that internal rotating bezel. We have a six o'clock arrow.
Everett And that rotates on a 24-hour cycle. So in that lead picture at Samoa, it's 10 o'clock. And in an hour, it'll say Samoa eleven o'clock and in the next hour
Everett Samoa sun for noon. Right? It be it moves.
Everett So at any given time you can tell
Everett what time it is in Paris twenty two hundred or Samoa ten hundred. And then the next hour it'll have moved to tell you what time it is now.
Andrew I don't understand it. It's
Everett actually, a clock, Andrew.
Andrew No, I don't accept this. Okay,
Everett well. So
Everett it dimensionally this watch is South
Andrew Georgia is not the same time. What?
Everett Andrew, you go around
Andrew the dial understand how words work. I I'm I'm struggling
Everett So Tokyo Buenos Aires on opposite
Everett sides. I get this. Give me a
Andrew minute to let this sink in. This is
Everett a crazy watch. This is the
Everett original style for a world timer watch. And we don't see this much now. And in fact,
Everett we see you know them come up at auction
Everett occasionally. This is an outrageously
Everett cool watch. Also, 100 meters
Everett of water resistance, like, come on, Baltic. 37 millimeters by
Andrew leading edge. Like you said. Well,
Everett I mean, very old style of watch,
Everett but who's doing it? Nobody else does this. I
Andrew don't GMP. This this thing's rad, dude.
Everett This is a really, really cool
Everett watch. Uh, 200
Everett pieces per rock. Um
Andrew stone. Individually
Everett numbered. Uh this is a fantastic watch.
Everett And they're super thin.
Everett It and looking at the comments on Hodenki, I like Baltic, but this one does not do much for me. Hands are too short, no second hand, something just feels
Everett shut up. Shut
Everett up. God, I hate comments. I should I should never look.
Andrew No seconds, no date. Miss. This is the guy who gets no second dates. Yeah, this is gorgeous. That was a good burn. I feel good about that.
Everett Really oh, also loom
Everett everywhere. Oh, a little too thick for the side.
Andrew Yeah, the amount of loom on this thing. There's there's more BGW9 than there is stone.
Everett Bezzle loomed, 24 hour ring loomed, 12 hours are loomed, the hands are loomed. It's this
Andrew just concentric loom rings.
Everett Baltic. Well nailed it. Well done.
Andrew Nailed it. Yeah, this is crazy good. I would check the time at about now because I'm like, gosh, we are gonna go way short. And every time I check it in about 42 minutes, I'm like, oh, we should consider picking up the pace. That was mine, so it's your choice next. That was
Everett yours. I think that one was mine.
Andrew No, because you talked about the gnomos, because that's not a watch that I would talk about. I actually cut it from my list knowing that you would talk about it.
Everett Um so we've
Everett had uh some updates this week uh to watches that we know and perhaps love from the past. I'm gonna talk about the one I like. Andrew, I'm gonna look to see if the one I don't like is on your list. It's not. Interesting. Okay. Oh no, it is. There it is. So the one I like is the
Everett longine updated
Everett hydro Conquest. Uh Hydro Conquest, I think, is a underrated
Everett watch. It's slept on. Slept
Everett on watch. Maybe not underrated, but
Everett certainly slept on. Longing
Everett recently released this with a GMT
Everett complication that
Everett was very cool, but a
Everett pretty big watch.
Everett They've just revamped this. And I think
Everett that they are really
Everett trying to make a statement with this.
Everett Longine, we've we've discussed Langine a number of times over the last couple of years. It it seems to me that Longine has really, like, at some point, in the last, you know, say five years, Lunging decided, you know what? We're a serious
Everett watch company. Mm-hmm. And we're
Everett gonna make serious watches.
Everett And there's no reason that we
Everett can't be every bit as good as Tutor and and perhaps we can do what Tutor does and just be better.
Everett And just be better. And they've accepted
Andrew the need to get with the modern watch design. So that we've seen a lot of updating.
Everett They released this new Hydro Conquest in both 42 and 39, which I think is nailed it. I think you did that
Everett exactly right. Case height
Everett is eleven seven for both of
Everett these. Uh we've got sort
Everett of a more modernized dial
Everett instead of the weird sort of numerals.
Everett Uh we've got a bezel that is good. A bezel that is good. We've got fonts that I'm not wild about, but that are very much Logine fonts. Uh, we've got an exclusive caliber with the
Everett L888.5, which is a 72-hour power reserve, great caliber.
Everett Fantastic, fantastic bracelet
Everett with where they've put in a female
Everett N-link that is exactly what it should be. Um, we've got like sort of a denim blue, a black, and royal blue, bezel, uh, a terrific green. Green on green.
Everett Obviously, black on black is gonna be where I
Everett head to. I I just think this
Everett is a release that is gonna not interest or not
Everett excite anybody but
Everett at whatever these are 22
Everett to 2400 dollars
Everett I'm like man this is a really compelling watch. Does Torud sell even a single
Everett watch besides what's
Everett the big Tudor dive watch?
Andrew The Black Bay. No, not the Black Bay.
Everett The big watch. Longos. Does not sell a single watch besides the Palagos that I find more interesting than this.
Andrew And I think that I for me, so when I saw this, I was like, this is just a hydro conquest. But it's not no, because what really told the story for me was looking at the side-by-side evolution of this watch. And I was like, oh. The
Everett old one's ugly, this one's not. Yeah.
Andrew But in my head, it still is. And then I look at the side by side. I'm like, oh yeah, that's why it's just a hydro conquest. And then you pull over to the new version, you're like, oh, this is what it should have been all along. They've pulled the date window all the way out to the minute track, they've changed the fonts, they've done some big color updates to make it an actually attractive watch so yes it's boring the the crown guards are just like they're slightly more aggressively curved. So they're they're shorter.
Everett Oh, I like these crown guards so much. Oh, they're
Andrew they're so much better. The lugs are just ever so slightly just just they've they've they've made this a felt dive watch rather than kind of like a clunky antiquated. I don't
Everett like the old one. I love this release
Andrew and I and I'm I looking at this if if you view this watch independent of what you think of Long Jean and what you think of the Hydro Conquest this is an entirely new platform. And I think it deserves a new name from Hydro Conquest because it's not. This is the this is the new standard bearer for it. And I am here for it. This, you know, there are plenty of critiques to be made of like, oh
Everett sub uh no, it's a it's
Andrew a baller dive watch that exists in the 2000 to $3,000 category that is it doesn't miss.
Everett Yeah. I I I really enjoyed it.
Everett I really, really like this one. The colors are good.
Andrew The fonts are good. Throw away everything you've thought about the Hydro Conquest and look at this through an entirely new And the Hydro
Everett Conquest has its fans. I I uh imp important to note, a lot of people really love the old Hydro Conquest. I was not one of them. Uh for the reasons we've already discussed, I
Everett love this watch. I
Andrew 39 and 42 is options is great. This is I I think for for I take this over
Everett a black bay any day of the week. Yeah, and at 42. Yeah.
Andrew I think I want this in a 42. I think so too. Uh Steel Mash or an H Link. I don't like H links.
Everett Yeah, I mean I don't think at tw I I mean I think you know
Everett maybe some Christopher Ward
Everett stuff that I like. I I mean
Everett this is really sh a very compelling. This is a
Everett very compelling. We've got Doxa. We've got maybe some Zin stuff that
Everett is kind of in there. Yeah,
Andrew the U50s are they're a little bit more than this, aren't they? Or they're like in the 3000s. They're a little bit more.
Everett We've got some Seiko stuff that's
Everett right at this level, but I I mean frankly, I think that this is
Everett you know, there's always gonna like
Everett the Black Bay is an incredibly popular
Everett watch, no doubt about it. Very good watch, popular. And
Everett for a reason. For a reason. That's
Everett right. It's a great watch. I like this better. I think that this is a much more compelling entry.
Andrew I think it's more interesting. We got Orus Aquaus.
Everett I I think that the Aquas is about this price. No, I you've got
Andrew we get and and I think the Ocean King is about this and I like and and similar flavored.
Everett Yeah. Uh Aquas is right about there.
Everett I I like this way better than the Aquas.
Andrew And I don't know or hate anyone who has this watch.
Everett W what's next? Next
Andrew up for me. I was surprised you didn't talk about this one. The Dennison ALD. No,
Everett no, that's not the one you need to talk about. Let's talk about the other new one that I hate.
Andrew Oh no, I'm gonna leave that one for you. You have another one on the list. So the Dennison ALD Dual Time. This is a watch that we talked about, I don't know, six months ago. And I
Everett think we talked about it right after um before.
Andrew We talked about it right before because it was a watch that we were interested in seeing. I saw it in person. I gotta say, I hate pictures of this watch.
Everett Hmm. I do not like
Andrew the way this watch shows up in digital media. In person, I'm for it. I liked it in person. Uh, and I have to assume that uh these new pictures, these new colorways, because so what we have is the ALD released in three new colorways and they are calling them blue, brown, and green. Under a thousand bucks. So they're 820 on the steel bracelet, 740 on the strap. Um these are great. They're 37 millimeter case, 35.6 lug to lug. They do feel big because they uh they're squares, right? That's just that's the way it is. They're 6.1 millimeters thin. We can't even call that thick at this point. This dual-time functionality uh was really really cool in person. Uh so the blue is a dark blue on the left and a light blue on the right, brown, just the same. Green, just the same. The colors are good. Uh this dual display is interesting. Uh and I I have to say, in in pictures, I still don't like them. But I know having seen them in person that this like mocha brown is gonna be hot fire. The blue is gonna be really good. Cause like I might be colorblind. These blues look r like almost identical to me. I don't r really see much of a difference, unlike in the green and the brown. Oh no, in that picture. It doesn't matter. It does not matter. These are gonna be really good. I I like these new colorways. Uh no, that's the same color blue. That's the same. Yeah. I'm broken. I accept. Uh I like these new colorways. And I like this watch. And this is this is one of the few watches that I've I've uh most watches you see it in person and you're like, oh now I really get it. You're like, oh, it's good looking watch in pictures. And then in person you're just smitten. Uh, I hate this watch in pictures. And in person, I really, really dig it.
Everett Yeah, I I I like it too. I mean, I
Everett mean, obviously, it's a watch the whose reputation kind of
Everett precedes it, you know, GPHD winner and and everything. Um you know, uh uh a sort of shamelessly a quartz watch, which in 2026 is not rare but not super common. Um really high high levels of craftsmanship in terms of fit and finish, beautiful casebacks on these. Um yeah,
Everett it's just super interesting. It's hard to, it's hard to argue
Andrew that this isn't an interesting watch.
Everett Double double ten thirty two double ten thirty-two movements. Um yeah. And
Andrew still at six point one yeah
Everett well it's yeah yeah like it it super thin quartz movements
Andrew but it yeah it's this this is a a really intriguing watch
Everett okay uh Omega.
Andrew Oh, you're gonna do that. You're gonna leave the other one for me, huh?
Everett Omega, Omega, Omega, Omega, Omega,
Everett Omega, Omega, Omega, Omega.
Everett Omega, very near and dear to me, my two favorite watches,
Everett without a doubt, that I own are Omega. It's
Andrew close to Omega. I spend
Everett roughly, I don't know, 60 to 70% of
Andrew the time wearing an Omega.
Everett I love the brand. I love.
Everett I just love and yet Omega has their head
Everett so far up their ass that they are I think at risk of becoming
Everett the tag hoyer of nineteen
Everett ninety eight uh look. They do
Andrew so much weird stuff. No,
Everett it's not weird. It's not weird. It's that
Everett Omega has developed a very cool movement.
Andrew And in 2006 or whatever when the coaxial
Everett movement came out, or maybe I've got that date all wrong,
Everett I I think it was very interesting. At this
Everett point, it's just like sorry
Everett omega, nobody cares anymore.
Everett Release a a cool watch.
Everett So they have the Omega Constellation,
Everett one of the most interesting
Everett historic watches possible
Everett this time. 1999 was then the coaxial
Andrew movement was introduced. Pipan dials,
Everett just gorgeous. A vintage constellation is gorgeous. Small watches. But absolutely gorgeous. Uh these
Everett angular cases, they've
Everett got this lug set up. They're called dog leg lugs, uh or they're called, referred to as dog leg lugs. Um
Everett they've re-released the constellation
Everett and I think that this is an opportunity to release a,
Everett let's say you don't want to be crazy Omega. You're like, you know what, 38 is fine. I'm okay with that. But but 38
Everett and and you know what what are you gonna what are you gonna do? You're gonna do 11 omega? Okay,
Everett I can deal with that. No, no. We're gonna
Everett do damn near 40. We're
Everett gonna re-release the constellation in damn near 40 at 12 and a half millimeters thick
Everett with a 47 millimeter. Just
Everett go away. No, it's
Andrew master chronometer. Why does this watch
Everett need a coaxial?
Andrew I They must have too many coaxial movements and they're just finding ways to put it into things. So that's why I want to talk about this watch. Because it's it is so disingenuous to the original constellation. It doesn't make sense. Hmm. It it's gonna make money. They're gonna sell like hotcakes because people will take anything that Omega does and treat it as canon, and I don't know.
Everett So these are like 11 to 12,000 in steel.
Andrew Yeah. Uh and 20.
Everett You can get Sedna or Moonshine at 38,000 or cannabis gold for 44,000. Platinum and gold is at 578. Uh uh and it's
Andrew a two-hander, I just I don't it's it's a master chronometer. This is like the first foray into this chronometer plus movement certification.
Everett So dumb. I don't know. This is my
Everett like my least favorite one. I I saw this and I was like
Everett s sick. Oh.
Andrew Gross. Gross. This is such
Everett I fucking hate this watch. It it
Andrew doesn't make and I hate it. I
Everett I I sorry. When I say I hate it, I the reason I hate it is because it's not at all
Everett what I wanted. It I've I've thought about this watch before.
Andrew If they release this under any name, if they release this under a new skew.
Everett And also 12,000 bucks for a
Andrew it's a master chronometer. I
Everett don't get it, dude. I think I think Omega's
Everett totally lost the plot here. Yeah.
Andrew I think they've totally lost the plot. Yeah, they I I they are they are treading in um uncertain waters.
Everett This is just absurd
Andrew and dumb and I hate it.
Everett What's next? Uh well so
Andrew this wasn't on my list, so I didn't even read about it. But Oh, the fifty? The fifty with a restored Valjeu. I'm like you get to do back to back. Yeah, Male Same
Everett uh chronograph by compacts uh from
Everett Raymond Weill. And what?
Andrew And the which
Everett which they've done this before, right?
Everett But the But it's not what we
Andrew know Raymond Weill for. The twist
Everett here is that they are making 50 of these to celebrate their
Andrew 50th anniversary, and these are
Everett all coming with a factory
Everett restored Value 236 column wheel chronograph
Everett from 1976. Uh
Everett which is like,
Everett yeah, okay, Raymond Wilde.
Andrew I love everything about this watch. Fantastic
Everett sector dial. Um,
Everett it's stunning.
Everett Dimensions are uh unlike a few other brands,
Everett they were like, you know what, let's release
Everett this in a way that makes sense. So it's 37
Everett millimeters, 10, 7 high, 18
Everett karat gold white bezel. Uh
Everett it's fucking perfect. This is perfect.
Andrew The the first time I I was reading the spec sheet on this, I was just kind of doing a glance through. Uh and I didn't read piston style pushers. I wrote I read prison style pushers. Oh yeah. And I was like, why is it prison?
Everett Yeah. That's interesting. And I kept reading
Andrew it as prison. It took several like focused looks. Oh, piston. Different. Different. Of
Everett course, you know, being a restored movement, there's only fifty of these being made, and so they're gonna be really
Everett tough to get. Price is eighty six
Everett hundred or eighty six fifty Swiss francs, so like
Everett ten thousand dollars of you know, or less than a a new constellation. Uh
Andrew and better in every way. Oh god,
Everett this is so much better. If
Andrew yeah. I love this release.
Everett Obviously, gonna be very hard to get. I assume gonna be very hard to get.
Andrew I I can't imagine the dial
Everett on this thing is beautiful. Any
Andrew of us will know somebody who gets a hold of one of these.
Everett Oh my gosh. I think this is such a
Everett fucking cool watch. This is an awesome.
Andrew This is m one of my, if not my favorite anniversary release. Because it's out so out of character in in my head for Raymond Weill, but it it fits and works perfectly.
Everett You know the I I read an article about this watch that said, you know, Raymond Wilde didn't really capture the enthusiast market at all until 2023. And I was like, well, that's not fair. But then I was like, no, I think that's right. Mm-hmm.
Andrew It took him a minute. Right. Like it it it was it was kind of like the way Jack Mason took some time to build up some momentum and and then like get a read of the environment and the marketplace and then once they did they just they did.
Everett Yeah dude they I mean they nailed it. What what a cool release.
Andrew Yes. That movement is just fr oh. They just don't make them like they used to.
Everett They sure don't. They sure don't. Uh that's all I have to say about that.
Andrew Yeah. I I mean I I don't think there's much else to say. I think using restored or new old stock vintage movements is Is like one of the coolest things a a watch company can do.
Everett I mean it's risky. It it is,
Andrew but you you also know that you're taking a risk for a super limited run. Right? If you're getting into 50 movements that can either be restored or are new old stock, you're gonna sell them. You're not gonna be sitting on 49 restored 7750s or r new old stock 7750s. Or, you know, in this case, what are they? The this uh the RW 1976. You're just not.
Everett Yeah. It's an uh it's the it's
Andrew the 23-6. It's the the Raymond Wilde 1976 because they restored them, but it's the the Valju 236. You're you're not gonna sit on those.
Everett Really cool. Really cool. Andrew,
Everett other things. What do you got? Oh, so I
Andrew um I I made my first foray into molecular gastronomy this week. So we talked, I don't know, not too long ago about how my kids got super uh excited by Nick Di Giovanni and his food experiments, and they they's this one episode that they like specifically ask for. It's a watermelon episode. And he does, I don't remember the number 50, we'll call it, ways to eat a watermelon. And some of them are super dumb. It's like here's a new watermelon cutter. The one that they have been I don't feel like daily is an exaggeration asking if they could do was to make watermelon caviar. Uh and so this last week I was at the grocery store and I was like, oh yeah, get watermelon. Oh, I also have to order something. So I I got onto the Amazon and I ordered Agar Agar Powder, which is a kelp-based thickening agent. It acts really similar to gelatin and really fast. Like there's not a it cools at a much higher temperature and gelatinizes at a much higher temperature. So like we we did half watermelon and I I s I ruined the batch because I was like, I need to let this cool, like to at least room temperature. And then I looked at it, you know, 10 minutes later and I was like, well that looks set. And I poked it and it was like the consistency of warm jello. It just kind of like broke apart and was gelatinized. And I was like, maybe if I warm it back up and whisk it, no, damage was done. So uh it this was crazy easy. I took half a watermelon and I put it in the blend tech and juiced it and poured it into a pot. Did it did
Everett it blend? It it did blend.
Andrew It it turned into juice, in fact. Even the seeds. It's just it's a watermelon, so it doesn't have black seeds. There was one black seed in this whole, you know, personal watermelon. Um, and it's this so it's this this method called spherification. I also learned that olive oil does freeze, uh, not solid, but it does freeze. So don't put that shit in your freezer. Just put it in your fridge for an hour. Because you will forget about it in the freezer. So anyhow, it's it was crazy simple once like I worked out a couple of the kinks because I wasn't really working off of an exact recipe. I like kind of read a couple and I was like, oh, okay, I get this. It did not. Watch a YouTube video, follow it precisely. Uh you take the juice and it is a 10 to 1 ratio of gram weight agar agar powder to this juice. You just give it a quick simmer to get it dissolved and just let it cool a little bit and then you take a little eroyedpper or anything that you can drip into this jar of cold oil, and these drops get chilled by the oil, and there's a little oil bubble created around it, and it creates this beautiful little sphere of fruit juice that then cools into like a jello, but like more like a boba, but not quite as firm because boba bubbles like they freak me out and I hate them. Uh caviar is the best way to describe it. Uh so that me and the kids made it and it was super fun. It was like a activity for them where they got to use their kitchen knives because I have plastic kitchen knives for the kids, like plastic chef's knives, and chop them watermelon and then goes in the blender. And um then they're doing all the eye dropping like my fingers are tired. I'm like, bitch, you wanted to make this. This is not on me. Work harder. Uh and they turned out really well. I sent pictures to you. They don't keep well. Uh but they turned out really lovely. Had it on vanilla ice cream. You can do this with any kind of fruit juice. And it was a a fun foray into molecular gastronomy that I will continue to do until I exhaust the smallest container of agar, agar powder that I could find, which was like half a pound. So I used six grams of my uh eight-ounce container.
Everett I wonder uh if
Everett Harry Stiles would consider rewriting that watermelon sugar song for watermelon caviar.
Andrew I I you know I'll hit him up, I'll slide into his DMs.
Everett Uh I've got another thing. Do
Andrew me. So we've taken
Everett my family, I say we, my family, really my daughter and I, but my my wife will also participate.
Everett Have taken to reading
Everett books that are going to be turned into movies.
Andrew Okay. If we haven't yet read them,
Everett or sometimes even if we have, or if I have, I'll go back and read it again. But my daughter is like kind of dedicated to this idea that yeah, I want to see that movie. I'm excited, but I really want to read the book first. So um that is in some ways uh a challenging it i it it's's challenging to do that because you you sort of set yourself up for some expectations that are gonna be hard to meet or or you know, sometimes they just the two things just don't anyway. Long story short, Project Hail Mary, Ryan Gosling was announced, you know, quite a while ago.
Andrew I'm super sure I saw this movie.
Everett And Betty had mentioned, you know, I w I want to read that and then I want to go see it close to, you know, release date. Uh I said, yeah, let's do it. I haven't read it. Uh uh Andy Weir, I think is just terrific. Uh but I I haven't read that. And so yeah, let's do it.
Everett And and so we did. And so
Everett we did. Uh first, let me just say, uh, that book is fantastic. Uh
Everett the way Andy Weir
Everett writes is he he writes with science. And in fact, my wife didn't like this book. She said,
Everett yeah, he's it's a little dense. My
Everett wife's take was he's a little it's a little dense. I disagree. It's not dense at all. He just writes through sort of surface level scientific principles, right? And he's not diving deep into the science. However, the twists of his books, and this is true for the Martian, it's true for Artemis. His twists oftentimes focus on sort of scientific principles or anomalies. Anyway, uh I really really, enjoyed the book. I don't want to give too much away, but the characters are fantastic, and you really fall in love with these characters. Went to see the movie. And predictably,
Everett pretty different, right? You
Everett cannot, in the context of a two-ish hour movie, spend anywhere near as much time on science, right? Because it requires words and the dial. I mean it just wouldn't work, right?
Andrew You have to assume it, right? Like you can you can depict what takes five pages to describe. That's
Everett right. Happens in a moment. That's right. And and so there are
Everett anyway, long long story short, they they
Everett had to make some changes, right? They had to cut some stuff, they had to sacrifice some ideas, they had to sacrifice some events. Um But what I will say is having finished that book and then within about 72 hours having gone to see the movie. Um, I really, really enjoyed both of these. Uh, they're the same
Andrew but different. Um,
Everett there are things about both of them that I really liked. So my other thing for the week is both the book, Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir, and also the movie, Project Hail Mary, with Ryan Gosling, produced by Andy Weir. Uh
Everett I I just had a really good time
Everett both reading this book and watching this movie. Um
Everett I just thought it's terrific. If
Everett you don't know anything about the story, uh I'm I'm not gonna necessarily recommend reading the book first. If you don't know the story and you just like
Everett yeah, I'll go see I you should see it because
Everett it's a really delightful story. And I
Everett wouldn't say you you really have to read the book first. Uh what I will say is I think they're both super well done, super enjoyable, really, really good. Uh and and that's true independent of one another. I don't think you need the book for the movie. I don't think you need the movie for the book. Um, would I have liked the movie more if I hadn't just read the book? Maybe.
Everett I don't know. I don't think so. I
Everett just really, really good stuff. So that's
Everett my other thing for the week is Project Hail Mary.
Everett I'm sort of I'm a fanboy. Like
Andrew I need to I've considered getting like shirts,
Everett like Project Hail Mary shirts, because I just love the story so much. I'm really enamored by the characters.
Andrew Why didn't you just wear wear your Ken shirt?
Everett Uh I don't know what that oh like from Barbie?
Andrew Yeah. Uh we already have a few Ryan Gods and Ken shirts. That's
Everett true. Uh that's true. Um well, you know. Next time.
Andrew Yeah. Yeah.
Everett So Andrew says, you know, I swear I've seen this movie. I was like, it's actually not possible.
Andrew I saw a trailer for it and I was like, this is this can't just be coming out. I and maybe like I it's possible and and it not even possible. What happened was I was certainly half asleep when I saw a trailer for it, and then my my brain made a movie around the trailers. Um, that's the only viable option for why I feel like I've seen this movie. Uh because I did some Googling. I was like, I feel like I've seen this before and they' likere, you're maybe conflating it with the Adam Sandler spaceman movie. And that's what that's what AI said. And I was like, nah, no, that's really different because that was a spider. Uh no what happened? I had to have like fallen asleep and been in like a half asleep state watching a trailer for it. Um
Everett I will say I did I did really work very hard. You know, it's not like the olden days, right? Where if a movie came out, you were blasted with I can by and large avoid commercials. I've got YouTube Premium.
Andrew Oh, see, I we don't have any of the premiums. So even our Netflix has ads.
Everett I can by and large avoid any sort of commercials. And I specifically did. I didn't want to watch a trailer because I knew I was gonna read. Like, I didn't want to have any poisoning of any pots. Uh, and I I'm glad I'm glad for that. So it's because everything was a surprise.
Andrew If you had to compare season one Game of Thrones with book one Game of Thrones in the way of a screen adaptation. Right? Which which I think is probably one of the finest examples of a screen adaptation of a book. Yeah, they
Everett did a great job with it. Um and the
Andrew rest of the seasons take what you will, but season one w was I I really I I think the best adaptation I've ever seen.
Everett Yeah, I mean they did a great job all the way. I mean they did a great job for a lot
Everett of seasons. So how
Andrew does it line up in the way of an adaptation? Because a movie's different, right? Yeah.
Everett Now I I mean I you don't get 10 hours
Andrew to tell the same story. Yeah, very
Everett different. I I mean, really how about the Martian,
Andrew maybe? I I actually think
Everett they did a uh it's
Everett a slightly different take, right? The Martian,
Everett I think, really relies on Matt Damon's charisma
Andrew to tell that story. Because it's one man show, basically.
Everett Yeah, that that's right. And uh and and with Project Hale Mary, they they did
Everett something a little different, which is which is to
Everett say, uh, the character Ryland Grace is not
Everett a particularly charismatic guy. And
Everett and and Ryan Gosling does a good job of not being overly charismatic. He's still Ryan Gosling. But he does
Everett a pretty good job of being a dick,
Everett right? Kind of being a self-absorbed jerk. And and
Everett and yet and yet the
Everett the dynamic between
Everett again I don't want to give any spoilers
Everett the dynamic between him and the other characters is really
Everett good and compelling and I thought it
Everett was just great. I thought it was just great. I I really I really enjoyed it as a movie,
Everett as a film. Uh which is to say it was different than the book, but I I liked them both.
Andrew All right. Yeah. Good to know. That's
Everett all I have to say about that. That's all I got
Andrew to say about that. That's all.
Everett Uh anything you want to add? No, I'm out of
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