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Timex, Doxa, and Serica (385)

Published on Tue, 17 Mar 2026 22:55:10 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of the Forty and Twenty WatchClicker Podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss their week, with Everett sharing experiences coaching youth baseball at the new 90-foot level and Andrew enjoying the first warm days of spring despite pollen allergies. They briefly acknowledge British Watchmakers Day, a sold-out event celebrating the resurgence of British watchmaking, and discuss Shohei Ohtani's new Grand Seiko ambassadorship.

The main segment covers numerous watch releases, including Timex's ocean plastic field watch and Snoopy pickleball editions (which they find overpriced), Awake's stunning silver leaf Atlantis blue Sonmai, Doxa's coffee bean-colored Sub 200 Gran Roma edition, Farer's new 35mm cushion case releases in raspberry and teal, Serica's tastefully executed 5330 dive chronometer with date, F.P. Journe's Mark II in Aventurine, and Raketa's ambitious Baikonur 24-hour space watch. They debate watch sizing, the importance of trying watches on in person, and how dimensions don't always tell the full story of wearability.

For other things, Andrew discusses making corned beef and cabbage for St. Patrick's Day, recommending Blarney Stone pre-brined brisket as a quality shortcut. Everett shares an enthusiastic discovery of Nebbiolo wine at an exceptional Italian restaurant in Ashland, Oregon, praising both the meal at Osteria La Bricola and how a knowledgeable server introduced him to a wine variety that expanded his palate beyond his usual French and American selections.

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Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to Forty and Twenty, the WatchClicker Podcast with your hosts Andrew, and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett I'm doing really well. Did I just turn your headphones up uncomfortably loud?
Andrew They're a little loud. I I meant to bump mine
Everett and I think I bumped yours. That's okay. Andrew, no, I'm doing well. You know, we had a like
Andrew last week where I was screaming in my own ears.
Everett We had our first two proper baseball games, um, which has been wild, man. Um you know, we we practice, practice is fun, um, but there's never enough practices before the game start, and then the games start, and you know, this is the first year at 90 feet, so we've got 66-foot pitching mound and, you know, whatever that is, like 400 feet from third base to first. And um, you know, this is it, and everybody's in the same boat, right? It's like all of these kids, barring, you know, maybe a handful of them, are like graduating. They've either just graduated last year or they're graduated this year. And so there's you know, it's a playing full
Andrew size ball. Playing full size ball,
Everett right? It's not like going back to to t ball or anything, but there's like uh you know these kids are used to playing at a really like high level and they're struggling again. You know, it's good it's cool to see I I don't mean it's cool to see these kids struggle, but I mean it it's it's it's sort of cool to like see these kids like realize like, oh I'm not I'm not the god, you know, I'm not Bryce Harper.
Andrew And work out the nuance of like suddenly your center fielder is responsible for like eight hundred square feet of earth.
Everett Right. That's a huge difference. You know, we've got this kid and he hits the ball a mile and he absolutely tagged one tonight. Just tagged it.
Andrew Call that a dinger. And it is just
Everett like directly to the center fielder, right? I I mean he it must have gone I don't know, 250, and just the center fielder kind of took five steps back. Gotcha. And it was like, oh, oh, we're playing baseball. You know, and the key, you know, and and that sounds like a bad thing. And and and to a certain extent, it it can be. And I think there's some morale issues, but it's been good for the kids to see oh, it's them too, right? It's not just us. I think they're feeling really like, oh gosh, what are we gonna
Andrew do? Well suddenly they're tired on their on their sprint to first base. Totally. In a way that they w have never been before.
Everett Stealing second is like It's an endeavor. It's a jaunt. You know? So
Andrew it's more than a little a little hustle. But you know, they're having a lot and pitchers have to be struggling and pitch counts are hard. Catchers are struggling. I bet you see a lot more stolen bases off of errant catches at the catcher. Total.
Everett Uh not as many as you think. I mean, you do see that. Uh we are to we we had our second game So we we have games Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. We're kind of a small team. We're only eleven kids with like three kids that can play up. And we've got like five pitchers. So like we're we're pitching everybody, basically one inning, right? I get 35, we get 35 pitches out of a guy, or he can't play tomorrow. So you know, 35 pitches, if we're lucky, we get two full innings, but that's not happening right
Andrew now. You know, so we're
Everett looking at like an inning per guy, basically. It's rough. You know, we get to the sixth inning, and it's like, all right,
Andrew you've thrown a ball. All right, buddy.
Everett Buckle up buttercup. And we got this kid, he's a good pitcher, really good pitcher. He's a smart kid, good kid, good baseball player. And he tagged three guys in the first inning today. And you know, it's just like I went out and I was like, how you feeling? And he was like, I feel like I'm struggling. I was like, well, don't think about that. Just just keep throwing it at him. You know, like just trying to like lighten the mood because he's like I'm like I A for me as a coach it's like I need all 35 buddy
Andrew So I can't pull you. You're gonna keep
Everett on throwing them. Um and and you know he calmed down and and it was fine. But uh yeah, it it's fun. This is a really fun developmental age. Having a lot of fun. Andrew, how are
Andrew you? I'm good. Uh it's uh it's our first real week of spring. It's it was seventy some degrees today. Yeah,
Everett it's still not spring. It it's not it's not
Andrew spring for three more days. That's right. Uh it was seventy some degrees yesterday. So tree pollen is wrecking my world.
Everett Oh, I'm sorry. It is it like
Andrew I took cold medicine and allergy medicine because I wasn't sure what the problem was.
Everett Yeah. Uh it's allergies. Um
Andrew so I I'm just I'm struggling a little bit, but I'm enjoying that like I can go outside and not you I know you know how to use that.
Everett You know, it it it's's got a little bit of an interesting
Andrew nope, close it. Okay, oh yeah,
Everett yeah. Backhand it. We're doing uh we're doing beer opening uh tricks here. You know how to
Andrew use a wine key. Yeah, but it's like a few
Everett my wine key, my wine key, this is oriented the other direction. So the beer opener on Andrews, it opens to the
Andrew That's like the industry standard server.
Everett I've got two of them at the house and they're opposite. I have like ten. Mine opened towards the hinge. Okay. Yeah. The one I got at uh the one I got, I've been using the one I got at uh King's Estate last year and it opened. But you can look at
Andrew that and also like see what's just. Sure, I was
Everett fine. It didn't we would have got there. You just you just made a big deal about it because you like to make a big deal about it.
Andrew Yeah, that's the one. Uh other than that, I'm really good. I'm just, you know, chuggin' on along. It's St. Patrick's Day, so I made uh corned beef and cabbage with potatoes for dinner tonight. And in honor of St. Patrick's Day, uh we're drinking some some Guinness extra stout.
Everett Oh yeah that and that's nice too. That's nice.
Everett You were talking about Guinness and cans versus
Everett bottles. And I do like
Everett Guinness in a can, but uh I think the bottle you get a really nice flavor.
Andrew It's funny the way different beers behave in different packages.
Everett Sure. Like I'm I know you've
Andrew done side by sides of maybe unintentionally, of let's say like butt light, can, bottle, draft.
Everett Sure. And they're all unique. Totally. Yeah.
Andrew Uh and when I was selling beer, there were people who were like like, Oh, I Bushlight out of a bottle only. Like, Okay. And try bushlight out of a bottle. Wholly different drinking experience.
Everett Yeah. Same with rolling rock from cans and glass.
Andrew Rolling rock out of glass, phenomenal. Out of cans, skunk butt. Uh yeah, it's uh the extra stout out of glass is really lovely. I was looking for just regular Guinness and cans, but when you buy things on March 16th, you can't find Guinness in cans. Yeah. Uhci espeally when you live in vicinity of uh a university.
Everett Yeah. Um so well and Guinness is one of those beers too.
Everett You really I mean Guinness goes to shit out I feel like in a very short period of time. Uh I do not think it sellers well. Um yeah, no, I'm I'm with you. You uh do you know coanda crema
Everett the Yes which is what's the name of that brewery?
Andrew Uh uh Pelican. Pelican
Everett Koanda Creme. If you've never had it,. uh Uh it it's good. But but here's what I'll say: it's amazing on draft. You can find it in a bottle.
Andrew It's just fine. I don't even like it.
Everett I don't even I think it's below just fine. I
Everett will pass in a bottle. But Kwanda cream on ale draft. I'll get it every time.
Andrew Oh, it's really good on draft. Yeah. Have you had it on nitro?
Everett Yeah. Yeah. That's where it's really good. Yeah.
Andrew Cause then it's like a you're actually drinking like
Everett milkshake. A milkshake. Yeah. Anyway.
Everett Uh no, it's just an ale, but it's like
Andrew creamy and in any
Everett event, we're not here to talk
Everett about beer. Gosh, why are you rushing
Andrew this? We're having a really nice time.
Everett Baseball or bottled versus canned? Rather,
Everett we're here to talk about watches, and I
Everett think we got a like we got a whole bunch of watches to talk about.
Andrew Do have some things to talk about. First, I want to just briefly touch on uh British Watchmakers Day happened uh on March the 7th. It was a sold out show, eighteen hundred and fifty people. I know that doesn't sound very big when you consider the size of wind-up events throughout these United States. Um, but it was a sold-out show. There are some picture reviews of it, and I am just I I love British Watchmakers Day. Uh and one of these years, I think in the next five to seven years I will be in attendance.
Everett That'd be cool. That'd be a fun that'd be a fun trip. Yeah.
Andrew Yes. So like I said, five to seven years, uh one at least I, Everett may also join, will be attending the uh British Watchmakers Day because it looks like such a fun event. I love celebrating like the British national watchmaking kind of revolution that we've seen in the last several years. Maybe not revolution, revitalization. Uh uh what's maybe a better word, resurrection, perhaps, uh, just this new and revitalized industry that's taking root in the United Kingdom. And we're seeing really cool stuff come out of the UK in the way of watches. Um, and I I love that they are, and especially that big brands and small brands are like are coming together to support each other, to support this national identity of British watchmaking. I think it's really cool. Uh pictures of it are really fun. And that's British Watchmakers Day. Another note that it has happened. Um And yeah, that's that's what I wanted to talk about briefly. Take a look at the pictures.
Everett You know, I think uh Great
Everett Britain is roughly the size of Oregon,
Everett which is to say it's about a hundred
Everett thousand square miles.
Everett Yeah. Uh, which,
Everett and of course it's spread over it it's spread over a few different land masses, right? You've got England, Scotland, Wales, but um it
Everett it's it's relatively it's
Everett relatively a tiny area. I mean, I think it's like less than half of the size of Texas. Uh yeah,
Andrew it's way smaller. Which is
Everett which is it in this context, in this context, it's really cool. I I think that you you bring up it you know how cool this revitalized and I and and frankly I'm I don't know enough about it to say that that's a totally appropriate word, but it I it it seems right to me, as we sit here. It seems like a relatively accurate or apt description of what's happening. But
Everett like it just seems like
Everett Great Britain is this incredibly cool, you know, between the population and the you know buying power that they have, the economy that they have. They've just got this really cool opportunity for collaboration for something like the British Watchmakers it's Guild, right?
Andrew Uh Guild or Association? I don't know.
Everett Uh to just be incredibly successful.
Everett And I think that's what we've seen. You know, the United States, we've got you know, I I think something like 80 or
Everett six between 60 and 80
Everett Britons in terms of land mass. Uh y you know, and so dis
Everett despite the fact that we've
Everett got this American identity, we've got we're we're just
Everett spread to all hell
Everett and gone. And the the
Andrew 40 times larger. Uh
Everett 40 times larger than oh we're 40 we have 40x
Everett landmass. Uh you know,
Andrew which is actually kind of surprisingly less than I would have thought.
Everett But the reality is for us to work with someone
Everett in say Louisiana, in
Everett any meaningful sense, outside of like telecommunication,
Everett teleconference, is just it's
Everett impossible. Like there's no proximity. There's no um
Andrew there's even there's like wildly different culture and even language. Like you talk to somebody from New Orleans. And
Everett that's true. And that's true in that's true in Great Britain as well,
Andrew right? The w the Welsh people and
Everett the Scottish people and English people are all different cultures. But I think because they're so close and unified by that Brit British identity, I I don't know. I I'll stop battling. But I just think it's a a really cool opportunity and I think that they're doing a really neat thing with the way they're pushing their their industry, their national industry. I love
Andrew it. Agreed.
Everett Uh does that mean I have to talk about a watch?
Andrew You could, or you could talk about the thing that I figured you were gonna talk about just briefly.
Everett Oh, I don't know what that is. Shohei Otani. Oh yeah. I'm not interested.
Andrew He's a he's a Grand Seiko ambassador, which I think is cool. Uh
Everett yeah. I mean we could talk about it. I love Shohei. I I I I mean, look, look. I've been on the Shohei bus for
Everett years, right? Uh I
Everett even one time got in a in a third party argument with one of Mike Rezak's friends who's a sports writer. Uh I never have actually talked to this person, but I was like, Shohe Otani's the greatest baseball player y you know, maybe of all time, and nobody's talking anyway. This is a long time. Or
Andrew Sammy Sosa? No,
Everett of course. Um I I just I've been on I've been on the uh
Everett the the Shohei bandwagon for a long time.
Everett I think he's terrific. He's now a uh Grand Seco Ambassador.
Andrew A Grand Seco Global Ambassador, which is interesting because it's an like a relatively newish thing for Grand Seiko to be doing, and to be doing it with one of the most highly paid baseball players of all t all time, one of arguably one of the more recognizable global athletes is an interesting move. Not interesting, weird, but it's an interesting, it's a little bit out of the norm for Grand Sako to be partnering with somebody like Shohei Otani. And I'm wondering if they're trying to uh kind of carve a path and chart a path forward into a more zeitgeist-oriented keep that luxury uh good label, but to the people who follow baseball. Like they're they're m they're they're trying to break into a new market in a market in a in a way that we haven't really seen Grand Seiko do. Grand Seiko has just kind of been like, hey, here's our fat watch, take it or don't, and it's expensive. And I hope you like it. But now they're pushing toward baseball fans and people who care about Shohei Otani. And I think that's interesting. Yeah,
Everett and and maybe it is. Andrew, uh I I I will have to admit fully to knowing very little about the economics of ambassador marketing. I I just don't know the first thing,
Everett right? You know, it it there's obviously
Everett something to it. You know, these brands Rolex,
Everett Omega, Brightling, etc.,
Everett uh, are very aggressive about getting the sexiest, coolest, most interesting people on earth to be ambassadors for the product. And and and
Andrew Shohe Oanit is a really lovely man.
Everett And they're paying people they're paying people obscene amounts of money to do this. So uh the reason I say that is there must be something to it. But I have a hard time I have personally have a hard time believing that anyone will be more likely to buy a Grand Seiko given this pretty fucking obvious ambassadorship.
Everett I I struggle to see the
Andrew financial value in any watch brand ambassadorship. Right? Like just because David Beckham wears it, I'm I'm not gonna buy it. But I think we're maybe exceptions to that rule because we're people who uh obsessively research things before we buy them. Like by the time we buy something, we're almost bored of it because of how much we know about it, how how like meticulous we've been about the decision-making process to get there. It's now just sort of like the thing that we decided on because we wanted a thing. I think that we're a little bit out w we are absolutely people outside of ambassadorship influence
Everett You know, Andrew, we're uh I I think you're right. I think you're right. With that said, I also think we are both people who um have uh you know, a a pretty sort of diverse set of uh experiences and and
Everett I think we've got an ability to sort of understand human nature. Um not not uh supernatural for
Everett either of us, but mine is. But you know, I think we understand people. My my my point here is that uh like some things I get, right? I I get um I get a classy billboard, for instance, or I get product placement in movies.
Everett I really, really get
Everett product placement in movies, depend especially you know if you get the right movie holy shit you can you you can you know make the same shitty pistol for for uh uh over a hundred years and people will fucking just keep buying it,
Andrew right? Sorry, Walter. But
Everett Sean Connery used it. God damn.
Everett But uh But yeah, I don't see it. I don't see this. It doesn't it it doesn't feel to me like there's that same. Yeah. Anyway. Um
Andrew I think it's I think it's doing a thing.
Everett Timex has released a giant green ocean plastic field watch that looks like a dive watch.
Andrew It does because it's made of ocean plastics.
Everett So uh yeah, they're calling this the I think the expedition free dive solar because it it's a uh it's a solar movement. So the expedition free dive solar is an ocean plastic case and bezel and strap, ocean plastic band. Um
Andrew that you'll probably throw away and it will end up back in the ocean.
Everett It is green. It's it's it's green everywhere except for uh zero to twenty on the rehot, which is kelp
Andrew green. What yeah, it I think
Everett gold. I think it's kelp green.
Andrew Like when those when the big like uh what's the what are those bulbous top kelps that you can smack and pop or uh uh it's i it's still oceany green it's not gold it's not yellow
Everett i'm just gonna disagree with your uh disagree with you here but um we'll we'll we can leave it at that so so green on green on green on green with a bit of yellow and or
Andrew it's that color green that fucking that's green okay
Everett I do I do see what you're saying. Andrew's pulled up a picture of Coast Kelp that is yellow and he's calling it green to prove his point.
Andrew It's green. Uh God. I think you're colorblind.
Everett Okay. So everybody knows what we're talking
Everett about. I would like you all so if
Everett you can figure out a way to communicate your disdain for Andrews calling this green to me, I will give you Andrew's cell phone, and I'm not joking. I will give you his cell phone number to say your mean things to him. With that said, it's green. This watch, I think, should be really cool.
Andrew It has all the makings. I think all
Everett the trappings. Should be really cool. But it's not. I I mean it's not not cool.
Andrew I don't know. At 159 bucks, I think I'm good with it. I think I I like the materials being used. I think it's interesting. The design leaves a lot wanting. But
Everett I'm fine with the design. I'm fine with the design. Look, uh I don't I actually don't mind the design. I
Andrew hate the waves on the dial. I don't even mind
Everett that. I think the the weighs on dial are fine. Doesn't bother me. What bothers me is that it's 46 millimeters
Everett wide by almost 15
Everett thick, and it's got 50 meters of water resistance.
Andrew It's a problem. Like the say
Everett you know, uh this is obviously not a galley designed timex, and nobody's suggesting that it is, but it is absurdly dimensioned that I mean it just it just almost doesn't make sense dimensionally. Like you made a dive watch that's 50 meters of water resistance and it's still 15 meters. Because it's made out of
Andrew ocean waste. There's no O-rings in ocean waste.
Everett I mean it's got steel and a and a solar movement with silicone and silicon.
Everett It's uh Timax, man.
Andrew What do we expect? They're not they're not gonna slam dunk everything.
Everett If this thing, if this thing costs 35 bucks
Everett or $49.99, A, we wouldn't be talking about it on this
Everett show. And B, it would be like, yeah, sure, whatever Timex. But they're marketing this. No,
Andrew if this costs 40 bucks, I would absolutely talk about this watch.
Everett They uh we wouldn't because you and you know how I know that, Andrew, because Timex releases roughly th ten thousand SKUs per year that are that. This is different.
Andrew But this is ocean plastic that this is different.
Everett This is a watch that they've got marketing ass behind that they're pushing out to watch publications that they are making a show of and they're selling for a hundred and forty bucks. It's a miss. We get a s if they're
Andrew miss. If they're pushing this out to us, I
Everett get to say time X, you fucking swung at a miss.
Andrew Yeah, they missed that one. Because you
Everett could go to you can go to Walmart right now, Andrew, and get the watch that you're just talking about that came out this year. Yeah,
Andrew you couldn't do Iron Man for 50 bucks. It's probably also out of ocean plastic.
Everett But I like this. I want to really like it, but it needed to be different than it was. It
Andrew needed 100 meters of water resistance. I'm
Everett fine with that. I'm fine with that even big.
Andrew Even at 46, 100 meters of water resistance, I accept. Right? The Corona Tokyo we talked about last week with its diver shroud. What was it? 48?
Everett Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was huge. It was enormous. Yeah, it's huge.
Andrew Uh it's not the size. It's it's the entire package.
Everett No, 46 is fine. I'd be fine with this at 46, because it's it's cool. I mean it's cool looking. It they just missed, right? That that's all I think it is. Um big crown guards. It's got a sexy crown. I like the hands. I actually don't mind the wave dial.
Everett I don't like the wave dial. I'm not a huge fan of
Everett the digital font. I'm not a huge fan of the shape of the bezel, but I can deal with all of the. I don't
Andrew know. The shape of the bezel kind of makes the the plastic feel like mid-90s.
Everett It it does feel nineties. But but
Everett look at this. Look at how it dips down between 50 and 60. There's a recess, but between zero and twenty, there's no recess on the bezel.
Andrew Yeah. Do you see what I'm talking about? Yeah, it's just a flat timer.
Everett Yeah. I mean, I guess that you could I I mean I guess that you could like if you can't see, you can touch on
Andrew the touch feel.
Everett Yeah, yeah. But if you can't see, like you're not
Andrew gonna I mean maybe Well, but you could
Everett still use it to keep time, right?
Andrew If you could see the hands.
Everett Sh well sure. I mean these hands are gonna be
Everett loomed, I'm you know. Uh but
Andrew if you've got enough loom to see the hands, you you're likely getting enough ambient light off of the loom of the hands to illuminate your twelve o'clock triangle. This isn't like a watch and braille. It's a miss. I understand the design. It's meant to be like a touch feel, but unless that that ring is also loomed, it's it's a another swing and a miss.
Everett What's next, buddy? Okay. Since we're talking
Andrew Timex, uh, Snoopy, for all of you who live near parks and have been terrorized by pickleball. Timex is honoring that with three Snoopy pickleball releases. Uh and I say terrorized by pickleball because in the last several years, uh pickleball obviously has made a an a a big explosion in uh the world. I've never played it. It looks kinda dumb. I think I understand why people like it, but pass for me. But the amount of noise complaints that are generated generated by people who used to like living near parks where people didn't play tennis, but now they play pickleball is hysterical and I love it because it's so dumb and so funny. Uh that being said, Timex has released a weekender, a Marlon Quartz, and a Marlin automatic, uh, all with versions of Snoopy playing pickleball. And it's just wild to me that this ridiculous tennis-adjacent sport has taken Americans by storm to such a degree that Timex has taken notice and is releasing Snoopy pickleball things. I drove to Portland uh a couple months ago. There's it what's it was called like pickleball world. It replaced an old sporting goods store in a mall and is just indoor pickleball courts and like a pro shop. I do not understand how that's financially viable. But people love it.
Everett Is that at Washington Square? Where is it?
Andrew Uh shit. What's where did G.I. Joe's used to be? Town center. Uh
Everett Eastport Plaza? Clackness Town. Bridgeport. Bridgeport, oh okay.
Andrew Yeah. Oh interesting. Okay. Yeah. Bridgeport, right? That's what it's called.
Everett Bridgeport, yeah. Tannisbourne town center?
Andrew No. Just south of Portland..
Everett Yeah, Tannis. GI. Joe's, wherever that fucking used
Andrew to be. Sure. Yeah. Tannisborne. Okay.
Everett Yeah. Cool. I I
Andrew they're fun. They're weekender and Marlins with Snoopy playing pickleball. Uh, and they're all priced how you'd expect them to be.
Everett No, they're not. 169, 240.
Andrew Uh I think they're like 150 bucks right now. Like MSRP from Timex, hundred and fifty bucks.
Everett I mean I think you can get it a weekender for like fifty bucks.
Andrew Can you? I mean you can get versions of the weekender probably.
Everett I mean, what are we talking about
Andrew here? Uh
Everett yeah, I think that's crazy.
Everett I think that that's the Marlins 250
Andrew bucks, the the the quartz and the and the automatic
Everett So the automatic is what 350 and the quartz
Everett is 250? Yeah. Um I
Andrew how much is that off of MSRP? For non-Snoopy.
Everett What do you mean? How much
Andrew are these? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I've
Everett got a $73 Timex weekender on the website, and it that appears to be MSRP.
Andrew Okay. So that's a lot.. Yeah The thirty seven millimeter case.
Everett Well and the two and the two fifty the two fifty quartz the Marlin
Andrew quartz is Weekender is a
Everett brass cased watch, but this is why it's cheaper. The Marlin is a stainless cased watch. And so that delta makes sense, the delta between the weekender and the and the marlin quartz, but it's still that 250 is a fuck ton of money for
Everett that watch. These are fucking Timex special
Andrew editions. This is what you pay for them.
Everett Fucking lame, I say.
Andrew I don't disagree. Who's you pay $150
Everett for a brass case time X week weekend or I'm gonna slap you in
Everett the face?
Andrew Promise? Yeah. Okay.
Everett Yeah. That's nuts. Yeah, yeah, no. But
Andrew these aren't the is this the brass case weekender?
Everett It's brass case. Yeah,
Andrew whatever. It's Snoopy Special Edition. These are what you this is what you pay for special editions. It's Timex. I don't like that. The brass
Everett case Marlin's got a cool got some
Everett cool details. The the the or not brass case the the quartz marlin has some cool details. The automatic also kind of fun, but
Everett I think that number is absolutely
Everett insane. I think it makes sense.
Andrew The second the second's hand on the quartz marlin,
Everett I think, really gives it the
Everett gives it the poop um but
Everett the pricing. Fuck that pricing. Just
Andrew I I don't know what you want, man.
Everett I want to price I want to watch the doesn't that that's not that's uh
Andrew I said it before we started 170
Everett bucks? What do you mean you don't know what I want?
Andrew Tell me what you want. That's 170
Everett bucks for a brass case. Dude, it's
Andrew a let's move on. What do you got next?
Everett I I'm I'm like a little like that you don't think that's absurd. I think that you have to turn in your host credits.
Andrew I I don't think it's not absurd.
Everett Sorry, you have to retire. Oh well.
Andrew Is there a pension plan for like a buyout talk to will Will um awake
Everett last year was it last year or has it been
Everett two years now when they released
Everett the Son Mai collection. I think it's
Andrew been two years. Um
Everett Awake. So i if you don't know the
Everett brand awake or the Son Mai, um I I think well, I think you'll have to go back and look. Uh,
Everett because it it it it's a
Everett really cool brand, really cool watch.
Everett With that said, a few years ago they released
Everett their first permanent collection, which is the Son Mai.
Everett It's Vietnamese, so I'm not I'm not December
Andrew of twenty-four. Okay, so
Everett just a little over a little over a year ago. Um I'm not I'm not precisely sure certain on the pronunciation, but Sonmai is how I would say that. Um
Everett which was just a gorgeous set of watches. They've released it and some really interesting details.
Everett You know, I don't know if we ever talked about the Sun Mai on the
Everett show. I think we like had it on the list several
Everett weeks in a row and just never got to it, which is too bad. Um,
Everett but what these are is a sort of dress
Everett sport watch that's got this
Everett very sort of traditional look
Everett at first glance. But it's also kind
Andrew of cushiony and like felt.
Everett Yeah, a hundred. And and as
Everett you get closer, as
Everett you get closer to this watch, uh you you start to see other things that are just kind of like so so first
Everett things first the dial texture. So what this is is an applied silver
Everett leaf that's been coated
Everett with a transparent see-through
Everett uh uh sand and
Everett enamel, like multiple layer sanded.
Andrew And the tears of an angel. Oh my god Oof.
Everett Um the the loom
Everett on these is printed superluminova, but
Everett it's capped by really
Everett excellent faceted polished stainless
Everett steel uh markers,
Everett the hands are built the same way. So when the loom is activated in the dark, it appears like a halo out from underneath and the sides of the the markers and
Andrew hands. Um it's
Everett just this really wicked traditional looking watch that as you get closer, like
Everett you realize the bezel is,
Everett as Andrew mentioned, sort of like cushiony and round, but also really precise. And uh you've got great angles here, but they're also like softened with like this Gary-esque like illusion architecture.
Andrew The lugs have kind of like this really gentle shoulder coming off of the case.
Everett Woo! Yes. So, anyway,
Everett really cool watches. I don't think we ever got gave
Everett them the proper treatment the first time around. Um and
Everett and and maybe this isn't the proper treatment
Everett either, but we alas are going to talk about it because they released
Everett a new silver leaf in what they're
Everett calling Atlantis blue.
Everett Like all of the Son Mai's, this is uh LJP G101 movement. This is limited.
Andrew Am I colorblind? Is this a me thing? It's teal.
Everett They're calling it Atlantis Blue, but it's definitely teal.
Andrew Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it's I was just about to admit that I'm wrong regarding the green.
Everett No, that I mean to me also does have some green in it. It's a
Everett teal. I would say this is a teal,
Everett uh, which is to say, sort of in between green and blue. Um
Andrew the strap is blue, it's got this beautiful
Everett blue strap, uh, like all of the silver leaf sonmai's it's got an ombre which is not the term they use, but it sort of
Everett fades from a very bright uh uh color in the middle to almost black at the outside. Golly, this
Everett thing is gorgeous.
Everett Uh limited to 100 pieces. These
Everett are not, these are not super cheap. These are twenty four hundred dollars. Smoky
Andrew gradient is what they call the the dial.
Everett Gradient. I thought there was another term that they used. Um with that said, uh with that said, you know, at
Everett $2,400, I think you s you
Everett have to decide if you like
Everett this watch before you're gonna get it.
Everett I'll give you some details. 316L seal,
Everett of course. It's a 39 millimeter with a very nice 45.6 lug to lug, 20 meters at the lugs. Uh
Everett we've got a width crystal
Everett thickness at 11.8, but a bare but uh it's a prominently domed
Everett crystal that comes down to just under 11
Everett at the top of the case. Um
Everett I think that this is absolutely
Everett fantastic. Made with traditional Vietnamese uh uh techniques on the dial, uh, and and crafted
Everett as well. So you know, a lot of production
Everett in the case of this watch, but
Everett these dials are crafted. Uh I just
Everett think this is terrific. Have you watched
Andrew the video on on the the dial crafting?
Everett Yeah, I have. It runs
Andrew on a loop and you could watch it for an hour. Just watching him just press the silver leaf onto the dial is what dreams are made of. And and and
Everett then, you know, the application of the
Everett the application of the enamel and hand sanded, I think it's like a ten hour process. Uh actually hands on this thing particularly. Yeah, because this is
Andrew this has to it's something like this has to be hand assembled. Yeah. Um man, this is I've never seen that the silver leaf application before. I obviously it makes sense how they do it, but I I never if you were to say, hey, apply a silver leaf to this dial, it's that that's not the solution that I would reach.
Everett Really just a a really stunning watch.
Everett And Andrew, what's next? Uh
Andrew how about the Doxa Sub two hundred grand Roma edition? Uh so this is a new edition for um
Everett Doxa. Right?
Andrew This is the sub 200. And I can't think of the first if of any collaborations. I'm sure they've done oh, who's that Florida retailer that they've done that they do uh doesn't matter. They do all kinds of collaborations with that Florida retailer and they do special colors. This is an Italian collaboration in the Gran Roma, and it is coffee bean colored and it's lovely. I like the two hundred as a platf as a platform for uh collaborations. I I I think the entire Doxa catalog is perfect for collaborations because they have such a finite and recognizable color palette across the entire catalog that when you see any deviation, you know immediately that it is a special edition. And I think that's something you don't get with a lot of other brands doing collaborations where they have a hundred different colors and a hundred different SKUs and they're constantly iterating and doing limited editions. Doxa has like 12, 13 colors across every single model. And if you if it's not one of those, you know it's a special edition. I think that's kind of a cool thing that they do. Because you could see a notice special edition, and you might not recognize it as a special edition, or take your pick of brands that do a lot of collaborations that maybe just do a tweak on color or they change the handset or you know whatever. Uh I think because of Dox's color usage, it makes their special editions a lot more recognizable and I think maybe more fun. And I like the two hundred. And I I challenged you that if it wasn't anything other than a Doxa brand on the two hundred, I think you'd like it. And
Everett yeah, I mean I I've been uh I've been sort of negative about
Everett the two hundred. I I don't feel strongly different, but I I think when you challenged me on that, I said you might be right. Um
Everett it it just doesn't feel like a
Everett it it just doesn't feel like a doxa to me. With that said, with that said, you know,
Andrew the 200's well spec'd though. I mean their recent
Everett release of the 200T uh I I'm sort of all about, right?
Andrew That's true. That's true and the 750 team which I really like.
Everett I I I do too you didn't like
Andrew it that much after I tried it on. It it was a little bigger than I think I would want to wear regularly.
Everett You know, I had the opposite reaction.
Everett I I mean, really, uh I I
Everett put that thing on my wrist and I I
Everett was pretty positive
Everett about that watch on paper, and then I put it on and I was like, oh, everybody needs to try this on because
Andrew agreed because it is way more comfortable than the size spec sheet would
Everett yes suggest. Yep. Uh it's just I think
Andrew a little bit bigger than I would want to wear regularly.
Everett Yeah. Well i in and that in that makes sense to me. Uh but I think I think
Everett some people, m maybe a s not a small percentage of people, might find themselves surprised putting that watch out. Doxa just has kind of a the way the that
Everett C case pulls itself
Everett together it it it tends to wear pretty well even at those bigger dimensions.
Andrew Oh absolutely as a as a doxa owner I can tell you that it doesn't wear big at all.
Everett Yeah. I'm wearing a
Andrew C63 today and I I think that it doesn't wear any bigger than this.
Everett Oh. At all. In the way
Andrew it feels, it doesn't feel any bigger. And it is not s smaller in like a by a significant amount.
Everett Yeah, I mean I think there's gotta be a little bit of like like detachment from the
Everett dimensions. And we've talked about this a number
Everett of times, but I think we
Everett get hung up in the dimensions,
Everett right? But when you like look at the uh look at the watch like the uh Cartier de Santos, right? That that's
Everett a watch that like if you tried to on paper choose which Santos to wear, y you might struggle because I think most people would get the large and I think that they
Everett would find, oh, this wear is bigger than I wanted to w when really you know I think most people are better suited by the medium. I I I guess the point
Everett I'm just trying to make the point I'm trying to make is with with many watches, with many watches, the dimensions just don't tell the story. Yes. And
Everett and that's not controversial for me to say it, or nor is it novel. I'm not I'm not
Andrew No, but when we when we spend all of our time online, you know, like best case scenario, we get a try it on first PDF to print it out the true size to dimensions and print out a sheet of paper and tape it up to our wrist. When we don't get to handle ninety-eight percent of watches but for special occasions you you kind of like you you build this this profile around dimensions and what you want to wear and what you like based on what you already own and what you've tried on. And it's it is kind of an impossible task to make these significant purchases without like feeling things in the metal. Because honestly, if I had if I had not had the opportunity to try on a medium and a large Santos, I likely would have gone with the Large, and I would have probably been almost, if not, just as happy with it. Because Because it wears so svelt and so tight, but the
Everett I think I don't think you'd be happy with it. The
Andrew medium is just like I put it on, but but I also knew like I'd put on a medium before. And I love it. The size on it is just perfect. Sucks down into my wrist. I think if you had the large
Everett you would you would regret it. I think if you had bought the large, you would regret
Andrew it. Maybe. Maybe. I mean, it's it's conjecture, but
Everett it's academic for sure. Um speaking of speaking of
Everett watches that should on paper
Everett work really well, but uh turned out for some people didn't. A few years back, Farrer introduced its cushion case collection, which is a lovely
Everett watch. Um,
Everett but it winds up in the way of sort of vintage
Everett tag hoyer feeling
Everett big. It was a 38 and a half millimeter watch that
Everett wore every bit of 43 because
Andrew it's square. And
Everett um I think that many people's reaction uh upon seeing it, I think many people's reaction upon seeing it in the metal for the first time is, oh.
Andrew Oh. That's a bigger watch than
Everett I expected it to be. Ferrer
Everett did, I think, the thing that they
Everett probably should have done from the get, which is release a second size of that, specifically 35 millimeters. Um, and they've released two colors of the cushion case collection, and both of them are
Everett terrific. Yes.
Andrew So um these
Everett uh they're really different
Andrew too. These are titled the
Everett Furneaux, which is a sort of
Everett raspberry color named after Captain Tobias Ferneau, an 18th century navigator and royal Navy officer who really, unbeknownst to most people, really enjoyed raspberries. Uh the
Everett second one is they they
Andrew prevent scurvy. The second
Everett one is a teal.
Andrew It's the Farer Teal. Belzoni,
Everett named after Sarah Belzoni, who's an English traveler and writer who lived in the 18th and 19th centuries. I I don't know anything about Sarah Belzoni, nor do I know anything about Tobias Furneaux. I I besides that
Andrew he likes raspberries. That was made up. No, it's real.
Everett Okay. Um on account of the
Andrew scurvy. And they're gorgeous. These are gorgeous.
Everett I mean, they look they look exactly like you
Everett expect. If you know the thirty eight and a half millimeter, you will not be even slightly shocked when you see these. Uh
Andrew indistinguishable perhaps.
Everett But you will like them.
Everett You will like them. These are gorgeous. And I think I I haven't seen these, uh, but I think you will find that the size of these is going to be excellent. These come with the hand wound Salita 210-1 movement, uh, which is a 45-hour 4 hertz movement. Uh and it's it's beautifully decorated. It's not this is not I',ll just say this is not the most handsome movement. Uh, but Farer, as as they are wont to do, has done a terrific job decorating this movement so that it looks lovely. Um, the crown of, course, we've got that fair A laid into the steel. Uh that this is a hit from me. 1,165, which is an incredibly fair price on these, I think, given what we know about Ferrer. Great texture on these dials. The
Andrew texture on the the Furneau pink. So it has a pink arrow
Everett tip on the second hand. And
Andrew then a much more red dial, but the texture on it is like almost severe relative to that gentle red. It kinda likes looks like looking at like a brain uh like really
Everett deep dark lines
Andrew in it it is gorgeous
Everett yeah uh but you have to appreciate
Andrew a texture dial to appreciate it uh because the teal is very differently textured.
Everett Uh though, that's right. Yeah, it it's it's a it's a lighter texture.
Andrew It's it's a much lighter texture. And and rather than being kind of randomized, like almost topographical on the red, it's it's a it's closer to linear on the teal.
Everett Yeah. Uh, which is an interesting
Andrew decision to have such drastically different texture patterns.
Everett So dimensionally we're at 35 millimeters
Everett across by 38 millimeters long. If you've seen these cushion cases, they've got a very short, a very uh discrete and short lug-to-lug, 18
Everett millimeter lugs on this, which is appropriate, although I don't think 20
Everett would hurt it design-wise. It might make it
Everett harder for them to fit. It
Everett might make it harder for them to get the crowns to a meaning to a good size. Um and 10 millimet 10 millimeters thick, which is terrific. Only 15 meters of water resistance on
Everett this, but that's appropriate. That's what these really should
Everett be. That's fine. Um I just I think they hit this they hit they hit this out of the park, even though it it's really just a new size. I I think this is the right size. I I genuinely believe that they should have led with this. This is a
Andrew or at least done a contemporaneously
Everett Cartier Santos Sitch. Yeah,
Andrew I think so. Yep. Maybe maybe a bigger gap though than the than the dimensions on the two Santos. Even though I think millimeter for millimeter, it's it's probably pretty close to identical.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. Really cool. Really cool. Good release by Fair. Smart release by Fair.
Andrew Serica. Fuck yeah,
Everett dude. 5330
Andrew dive chronometer. Now with a date window uh which is not something that i care about but some people do and it is great, they did such a good job. So this is the 5330. It's a whole new reference. It is a 39 millimeter case. It's the same case as the 5303, 12.2 thick, double dome sapphire 46 lug to lug, just like a perfectly sized compact felt dive watch, uh two-scale bezel, ceramic insert. It's all the things, and it comes on Bracelet options that you could possibly want, three o'clock date window, and a cost certified uh what's the movement they're running? Uh
Everett it's the Kennissy. It's the Kinesie.
Andrew Kinisi? I think so. Isn't it? Am I am
Everett I just thinking the Soprod M100? Oh,
Everett I'm sorry. It's the Soprod M100 Cosk
Andrew certified, not Cosk plus uh 300 meters of water resistance. Why does that keep powering up?
Everett Yeah, I don't know. Andrew's got uh ghost in the
Andrew machine. In in my printer.
Everett Is it gonna print something? Should we just unplug it?
Andrew Hard to say. Can you hear that at home,
Everett folks? Can you hear that no andrew
Everett uh uh how many so
Everett I I am struggling wait
Andrew wait sixteen hundred and ninety bucks on this for a cost certified three hundred meter dive watch.
Everett Yeah, but that's just Serica stuff holding up that's
Andrew a that's a good like that's good. Well that's
Everett just Sereika stuff I I mean that's right that's right. I the I I think what I
Everett was what I was hoping that we would
Everett get to here with this is it is this is how bizarre a release this is. How
Everett how many brands can you off off
Everett the top of your head think of that could
Everett release a watch that
Everett and we'll talk about the differences, but it's virtually
Everett indistinguishable from their prior releases. And they but
Everett they added a date window and we'd be like, A, that's cool. And it's
Everett notable. B, they really did a
Everett good job with this. And and C uh
Everett I didn't didn't make me feel like shutting my computer and crying.
Andrew Tudor released blue and broke the internet.
Everett And we made fun of it because it was kind of annoying.
Andrew And then Will bought one and he was like, hey the Will's the the blue's pretty
Everett okay. Will go away. Tudor, go away. Uh
Everett no. So uh uh first
Andrew I you know, I never even considered that it was lacking a date window. It never even occurred to me.
Everett Here's what I'll say. This
Everett is done in
Everett a perfectly stereo way, which
Everett is to say not
Everett outrageous, not
Everett bold. In fact, opposite of bold might
Everett be appropriate. It is tasteful.
Andrew Right? It's tasty.
Everett Tasteful. They have added this thing tastefully. It is just a three o'clock marker date window. It's got slightly rounded corners on the date window. It's a rectangle with just ever so slightly rounded corners, which if you never thought if you if you didn't know you needed that, go look at the spotch and now you'll know. They did it in
Everett red, which in terms
Everett of uh that's pretty wild for Serica.
Andrew That is the the wildest thing they've ever done.
Everett There's a couple of other things that are notable here. The uh
Everett Serica Dive watches in the past have
Everett all come with a glossy dial. This
Everett has a matte dial, which
Everett is beautiful.
Everett Uh furthermore, the case
Everett on this is all satin versus the the brushed and
Everett polished combinations
Everett that Serica normally runs. So a little bit different feel on this watch. I I'm pretty impressed by
Everett how restrained this release is.
Everett And I don't mean that sounds a little stupid. I realize that and I'm sorry. But I'm I'm
Everett actually I saw this and I
Everett was taken aback by the restraint and the tastefulness
Everett of this release. I feel like that's everything Sereca
Andrew does. Yes. It's just an exercise in pure restraint. Like they take it right up to the edge, back it off three notches, and release really, really attractive, really refined, familiar, but innovative watches. I love them. Sereca can do no wrong.
Everett I yeah, you might be right about that, Andrew. Um that this
Andrew is this is perhaps
Everett proof of that um andrew there we're we're getting long
Everett in the tooth here um uh there's at least one of
Everett your watches that I haven't read about and so I can't really talk about. Um but
Everett but I think we should talk about uh
Everett but that means you have to talk about it. The the F-77 Mark II.
Andrew Oh yeah. So um I I feel like I'd seen this watch before, but I don't remember us ever talking about it or thinking about it. So the Mark II is this sort of bizarro integrated sportswchat, octagonal bezel that we all know. And it's a 38mm case, it's 12.1 thick, 46.2 lug to lug. So it's like sort of the goldilocks sizing for an integrated sport watch. It's 100 meters of water resistance, so prod p024 automatic movement, 38 hours of power reserve. Uh these are 1500 ish Euros and this is now on they they've released now an Aventurine for it which is something that I never thought that I would need in this like linear polished sport watch case with a venturine that just like makes me feel like I'm looking out of the uh cockpit of the Millennium Falcon. This seems like maybe the most densely packed Aventurine dial I've ever seen. And that's what really really caught my attention. Uh is Aventurine is variable. This is dense eventurine. And I'm smitten.
Everett So sorry, I I do think
Everett w we talked about the stone dial
Everett releases a few weeks ago. I did
Everett we? We did. We talked about the green
Everett adventuring. Um Yeah.
Everett I'm struck you know what when I saw this, I
Everett thought, is this different? I think that this may just be a release in that same line. In fact, I think this was announced at that time. Um
Everett I I still glad we talk about it again because what a great release. Up to 38
Everett millimeters on the diameter of this, down to 12.2
Everett from 12.65 on the thickness.
Everett Great. price We did talk about that. Yeah.
Everett And that uh Andrew,
Everett that Aventurine, you
Everett know, I think on their product photos it looked really dark.
Everett But on the hands-on photos that we've got from time to time.
Andrew Right. Yeah. It
Everett it's got a really lovely sheen.
Everett And you know, of course, Aventuring is gonna be, you know,
Everett unique piece to piece. And so maybe there's
Everett some color variations, but um I'm glad we're
Everett talking about this again because the it's sort of
Everett mind-blowing. It's 1360
Everett if you're in the market for if you're in the market for uh almost integrated
Everett steel sport watch, yeah.
Everett Man. It's got like a collar to
Andrew make it look integrated, but it's not quite.
Everett Yeah, and I think it still is, right?
Everett You couldn't just jam uh you couldn't just dan jam a 20 millimeter dress strap in there or it's a
Andrew 22, and I think is it 22
Everett across? It's 22, and I think you
Andrew could, because if you look at the if you look at the strap
Everett twenty two across. That's what it says. It says in the
Andrew spec sheet. It's 22 across. So it's got like a collar on the bracelet and they have integrated straps for it, but I think if you were to just put this on a 22 millimeter I mean based off of their maybe they're measuring 22 to the outside of the of the
Everett lug width but that does not look like twenty-two to
Andrew me. I I think it's worth a a consideration that if I it looks like eighteen to me. It
Everett looks like fourteen to me.
Andrew But if I yeah, if if you were to put it on a strap, I don't I mean I don't know. I need somebody to put some calipers to it.
Everett Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I I I'm
Andrew and clarify because I think it's probably twenty-two to the outside of the strap.
Everett Okay. But if cause if you look at the underside. I think that's what it is. I think you're right. It's twenty-two to the flank to the outside of the flanks on the strap, is my guess.
Andrew Yeah. Cause even like it's like a false collar on the if you look at the underside of the bracelet handlink.
Everett Well uh co cool watch. I saw it on your
Andrew list is phenomenal. I saw it on your list
Everett and I thought, well, I I'd I I kinda like to talk about that. Um I the only other watch that I really want to talk about today is the new Raketa. So when I got
Everett into watches,
Everett there was like Seiko, there was Orient,
Everett there was Vostok,
Everett right? And then somewhere
Everett along the way, there was also you know, as a TWS
Everett guy, like uh Russian watches come up frequently in their early shows and perhaps still now, I I I can't say for certain. Um and Raketta came up quite a bit and I was always interested, I was already sort of
Everett like adjacently interested in
Everett Rakhetta, but didn't really ever get there. Turns out Raqueta still just humming
Everett along. And turns out Raketa making
Everett kind of rad yes. Making
Everett kind of rad watches. Um they just released a watch to celebrate the
Everett sixty fifth anniversary of Yuri
Andrew Gagarin's first
Everett man in space flight,
Everett which is to say, first man to reach outer space and orbit the earth. I don't know, although to be
Everett in orbit of the earth, I guess, is more
Everett appropriate. To orbit
Andrew the earth, I think is the is the way it's phrased.
Everett And so they've released a twenty
Everett four hour timekeeping watch to celebrate that. And
Everett it is really
Everett excellent looking. Uh, it looks like it's incredibly well made, which if maybe if you're anything like me in looking at this thing, that is a slight surprise to you. No offense to the raqueta folks, none none intended anyway. Um 20 read in a 24 hour timeout. They're calling this the by Coner, which I'm sorry, I don't know what that means, and I should have looked it up and I've got it. My guess would
Andrew be the by time zone.
Everett Um it is a 24-hour
Everett dial complement by a second 24-hour interbezel. Uh no fourth hand. The
Andrew Baikonar Cosmodrome is the world's first and largest operational space launch facility located in the southern Kazakhstan.
Everett There you go. Local time tracked on the on the primary dial on the 24-hour scale.
Everett The second crown is used to adjust the inner bezel to set a second time zone. We've got daytime and nighttime hours that are indicated on both,
Everett executed in white and black.
Everett Huge and bold red accents here. And then we have a what what is it? It's got a solar calendar that you can use theoretically if your instruments
Everett are fucked and you need to like hand navigate from space back to Earth. So I
Andrew think at that point you just accept that you're gonna die.
Everett Your Raquetta is not gonna save
Andrew you, man. We've got
Everett um we've
Everett got superluminova on
Everett the hour markers for the
Everett night time of local time, but not but not for the daytime of local time, which is
Everett cool. Uh and
Everett then we have a solar compass. Well the idea is that if you're traveling in space and you're returning to Earth,
Andrew you just point it at the Earth. And have
Everett damaged equipment, this compass
Everett could, you know, sort of like allow you to get your bearings when
Everett you land, you know, in who
Everett knows God knows where. Uh oh
Everett okay, fine. Thanks, Rackett. Um, it is an automatic. Interestingly, automatic watches don't work in space because of gravity. So they've got a decoupler that can be used in hand-wound mode that decouples the watch
Everett from the automatic function theoretically to prevent excess wear and tear.
Everett It is an in-house movement. The caliber
Everett 2624 CA. I'd be lying if I told
Everett you I knew even the first
Everett thing about that caliber. What I can tell you is it's not a bad-looking caliber. Um,
Andrew it's lovely. And these
Everett are, you know, about three grand for a 42 millimeter dual crown 24-hour format watch with 200 meters of water resistance. Uh and I I want one almost just because I'm like, yeah, I mean, you you nobody you'll never meet another person that has this.
Andrew Unless you meet Soviet cosmonaut.
Everett It maybe even then. Yeah,
Andrew they probably don't have these. They probably can't afford
Everett it.
Andrew They get mandatory gifted them because it's named after their launch pad in Kazakhstan.
Everett I I don't know that that's how Russia works.
Andrew I mean I don't know either. I've never been. I think it'd be cool. I'd love to see the red square.
Everett This is a really cool watch. It is a really cool watch.
Andrew The internal rotating bezel, the the kind of novel GMT functionality that they have applied here is cool. The design on it is just it it looks very, very Soviet. And it's not it doesn't look Russian. It looks very Soviet, like very Raketa, very 80s Soviet with all of the modern flourishes, some novel design ideas. Uh I don't understand the solar compass, but I think it's just because I'm not smart enough to understand space flight. I feel like if you're lost, you just point it out. I
Everett think it's just a compass. It's not a
Everett space flight. It's just a compass that uses the light to tell you where to go, right? It's like a compass bezel.
Andrew I don't think it is. I I accept, but I I feel like it should be.
Everett Yeah, fair enough. Right? Like if you're
Andrew gonna call something a solar compass, like point it at the bright thing is not a solar compass. That's just that's that's just being a moth.
Everett Andrew, I think you've gotten through about half of
Everett your watches. I got through about three fourths of mine.
Andrew I'm done. Okay. I mean, there's some other
Everett really cool stuff on your list. I already close
Andrew the tabs. Okay, fair enough. Uh
Everett other things, what do you got? So as
Andrew I said earlier, today is Saint Patrick's Day. So as with every Saint Patrick's Day, I made corned beef and cabbage. Uh I typically brine my own brisket flat uh I just I lost I didn't even know I just didn't know I lost track of time and didn't get a chance to go buy a brisket didn't get a chance to get a brine made uh so I bought a pre-packaged brisket flat from a company called and it's a it's a brand that I've bought before and I'm always a little embarrassed from a blan a brand called Blarney Stone. They have it at Winco. It's like 20 bucks for enough brisket for dinner for four and then like some leftovers. It's almost as good as doing it yourself. You just put it in the slow cooker, add some water, add the seasoning packet. It's already brine. Because all a brine is is just salt and seasoning. You need to do nothing. I threw it in my slow cooker. My actually my wife threw it in the slow cooker this morning because I forgot to do it before I left to work. Uh she turned it on and low. I got home from work. I threw the cabbage and potatoes in, turn it on on high for like three more hours, and it was fantastic. As much as I will always advocate for doing it yourself and doing the scratch thing, because it feels better, even if it doesn't necessarily taste better. If you're not in the mood to give up uh you know five pounds of space in your fridge for a week, learning stone, flat, pre-corned beef is terrific. I I'm all about it. I'm embarrassed to say it's almost if not as good as mine. It's indistinguishable in my family, so that makes me think that it's maybe just as good. But I don't feel as good as about it.
Everett I can feel that. Yeah, I mean you you said
Everett like it's almost as good. And I was like, I'm sure it's exactly as good.
Andrew It's different. Sure. Because you
Everett didn't do it. Well but it the the the
Andrew the nuances aren't there and what I will say too is that when I slow cook mine, the vegetables come out better seasoned.
Everett Fair enough. I don't need to season the vegetables at
Andrew all. Yeah, yeah. When you slow cook this one, you do need to season the vegetables after they come out or before they go in. Take your pick. But it's just it's not as it's not quite as well seasoned, but the brine is there, the curing is there. Um but it just has less like the peaks and valleys are are narrower.
Everett Andrew, how much do you know about wine.
Andrew Wine? Yeah, wine. Like how to drink it?
Everett Sure. I mean, just like well.
Andrew I am above average knowledgeable about wine.
Everett Because of your because of things that I've
Andrew done in the past like experience in the industry. And then subsequently the interest that evolved from that and just kind of like m maintained
Everett um Um,
Everett I am not unfamiliar with wine.
Everett I'm not unfamiliar with wine, uh, but I'm also not A wine aficionado.
Andrew Yeah. Which is to
Everett say, like, I know the
Everett names of a handful of wines. I know that I like this with that, and I like this with that.
Everett Um and by
Everett this, I mean there's like five wines that I'm familiar
Everett with. And so when I open up a wine menu, you know, it's anyway. Long story short,
Everett Kim and I went to an Italian restaurant in Ashland this last weekend. And
Everett I'm just gonna I'll just start by saying
Everett and then I'll and then I'll end that part of the conversation. I'm gonna start by
Everett saying uh this was the best Italian
Everett food I've ever had in my life. Pictures
Andrew looked amazing. Uh it's
Everett called uh Osteria La Bricola,
Everett and it was absolutely phenomenal.
Everett They have a carpaccio appetizer
Everett that's served with uh like a like a fawn du drizzle on top. Holy shit. Like I could just eat that. Like if you were like
Andrew it looked like a carpaccio plate that you should just roll up and eat like a beef roll up.
Everett I mean there was a there was a half a mind
Everett to do that. Um pounded just as absolutely thin as it could be, but not beaten through anywhere. It was terrific. I don't
Andrew it didn't look pounded. It looked like it was probably like
Everett pressed, maybe pressed, like sliced and
Andrew pressed. It might be. Because there was not any texture to it. It was just so thin. Yeah, it looked really, really
Everett good. It was so fucking good. And anyway, I'll leave the food alone for a second. But um I was looking at the wine menu and you know, of course I'm looking for like the half dozen things that I'm familiar with, right? And our gal came out, so first our server was probably like 11 years old. And I was like, how the fuck is this person old enough to serve alcohol?
Andrew You're in Southern Oregon, man, they ain't no rules.
Everett And she comes out and she's like, if you have any questions, I'm pretty familiar
Everett with our wine menu. And I'm like, Yeah, right, lady. Uh, but
Everett she was like a little aggressive, like, let me help you pick wine. And so I
Everett we were like, fuck, sure, whate And
Everett uh you know, go ahead. Like I I was almost like a little irritated. You know, I wasn't
Everett irritated, but like it like it I didn't want to
Andrew defensive because you felt like she wasn't old enough to actually know enough to talk about it to help you.
Everett And so anyway, she starts she's like, Well, what are you gonna get? And we're talking
Everett about what we're gonna get. And she sort of
Everett brings us to the section of wines.
Andrew Which and you had a diverse menu, right? Like to move from carpaccio into like a pasta dish and I don't remember what the other thing was. Yeah,
Everett we had the wild boar tagliatelli and a like a dark mushroom uh risotto. Uh so but
Andrew why did you do that? The way you said risotto.
Everett Rizzotto? I hate that. I mean, I think that's how you say it. I'm gonna
Andrew flick you right in your nuts. Continue, but I think
Everett that's how you say it. Yuck.
Everett What what do you what do you affect about? You don't
Andrew speak Italian. You don't have to like accent things. It's Rosotto.
Everett Alright. Uh Rizzoto. And uh anyway, she came out and she was like, uh
Everett this wine nebbiolo. I've
Everett never heard of this. You know, there was a couple different kinds of Barolo, but there's Nebbiolo proper. And she said, you know, based on what you're getting, I think this is what I recommend. It is really light in color, like because I said, Oh, I like a pinot noir, but you know, it's a it's you know more for a lighter meal. We're kind of going heavy tonight. I do like a Syrah, but I think that's too heavy.
Everett And she's like, I want you to try this wine.
Everett I think you'll try it. Uh we spent too much. We, you know, got the upgrade version of it. And uh
Andrew she gotcha. Dude, this was it
Everett so not knowing anything about wine, this is my other
Everett thing for the night. I I think I think my other thing is maybe like
Everett i it wine's really interesting and
Everett if you if you've ever sort of been wine
Everett curious, it it was a lot of fun to have
Andrew a new wine from someone who knew about wine
Everett who was recommending it to us. Um,
Everett but also like Nebbiolo
Everett kind of blew my mind because it's
Everett very light, but it has this like it has this like brightness and acidity that felt really light, but then like at the end it got like really like earthy and licorice flavor, like it's this full like roller coaster of wine
Everett and it I just think it could pair with a
Everett billion different meals. You know, like I would drink this with steak, I would drink this with oysters and not even think twice about it. It is my favorite wine I've ever
Everett had. It it so I and I'm not gonna say what I got specifically, although
Andrew Nebbiolo is interesting because it's kind of familiar flavor profile to like but like most Americans are not familiar with like Spanish and Italian wines, right? We drink a lot of French wines and a lot of American wines because they grow at similar latitudes, right? Latitude, similar latitudes. So we're really familiar with French and American wines that are derived from French wines. Italian wines are phenomenal. Nebbiolos are closest comparable to like a Pinot Noir, but they have a much they're they're punchier, I think, um in in the ways that you want them to be. And I think a like just a little bit deeper. I think Pinot Noirs are like I I think they're kind of flat. I don't super dig Pinot Noirs, they sort of seem one dimensional. Nebulos are not like that.
Everett Definitely not. I I mean I I don't think Pinot Noirs
Everett are flat, but I do I I was really blown away by this wine and now I'm like everywhere I go, I'm gonna be like
Everett What Nebbiolos do you have? And
Everett then pretend like I know anything about what they have and order the one that's the price out of the way. They
Andrew probably don't because Italian wines just aren't that popular, at least where we are. Even at Italian restaurants, but they they tend towards French wines because that's what people are familiar with here in the Pacific Northwest because all of our big Oregon vineyards are French wine or French grape derived. Um and I think that's a a big loss for a lot of Americans because the French wine industry has like has the real stronghold here and we lose out on uh a lot of really great wine culture throughout the rest of the world because Italian and Spanish wines are fucking phenomenal and they're so different and familiar, but they're they're just really different and exciting. And I I'm I'm really glad you got to experience an exciting new wine because very much like experiencing an exciting new liquor that's virtually the same, but different.
Everett Yeah. Like you just tried a a slightly
Andrew different grain bill in this in this wine. You're like, oh
Everett fuck, this is wholly different and amazing.
Andrew And I've been missing out. That's awesome.
Everett Yeah, that's it. I'm like.
Andrew But your palette has been trained by you know a lot of different whiskeys to
Everett coffee and whiskey and beer and and cigars
Andrew and tobacco and and and these things that you try and experience and learn about to isolate flavor profiles and to like find the line through your tongue. Uh yeah, I th I think that's really cool.
Everett But I was like, I'm like, oh, you know,
Everett can I get like you get that little licorice on the end? And she was like, No.
Andrew No. I get carpaccio on the end.
Everett It's like there's no licorice. And I'm like, well it's not licorice, but you know it's a little, and she's like,
Andrew well, a little fennel-y. Yeah., No no.,
Everett I don't That's that's just training
Andrew your your palate. Uh I I have had a couple Nebbiolos. I don't know what bottle you had, but I've I've only had a couple and uh I I really liked them and I was I think they're most easily comparable to a Pinot Noir.
Everett Yeah. It uh very,
Everett very good. Like a Pinot Noir, but like with a little bit more
Andrew little junk in the track. Are you ready for it?
Everett Terroir. I hate that. Hey
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