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Episode 266 - 2023 in Watches

Published on Wed, 29 Nov 2023 20:25:16 -0800

Synopsis

In this episode of the 40 and 20 WatchClicker Podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett review their favorite watch releases of 2023. The discussion covers twelve notable watches including the Swatch x Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Bioceramic collection, Christopher Ward's C63 Séleste, the Zinn T50 in titanium, and the Laurier Hydra S3 GMT. They praise innovations like Studio Underdog's Field O2 with its floating sapphire indices and Tag Heuer's glass box chronograph revival. The hosts note 2023 as a significant year for affordable automatic GMTs and appreciate brands like Marathon, Alpina, and others pushing boundaries in design and value. Their personal watches of the year are Everett's Zinn T50 and Andrew's Studio Underdog Field O2.

Beyond watches, the hosts discuss Oregon Ducks football's playoff prospects, Andrew's new Danner Mokto boots, and share other things including Pendleton wool socks and Nike Air Max 90G golf shoes. The conversation highlights their appreciation for both heritage brands revisiting their catalogs and independent watchmakers bringing creative innovations to the market at accessible price points.

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Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify, you're listening to 40 and 20, the WatchClicker Podcast with your hosts Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett You know, I'm doing all right, Andrew.
Andrew Thank you. Judging by your hair, you're not. No. It's like real tall right now. The
Everett hair's getting crazy, man. I haven't decided what I want to do with it, but it's like it's got a mind of its own.
Andrew When when I had hair, when my hair was that tall, it meant that I was hammered.
Everett Yeah. I'm not hammered. No. I I haven't even cracked my very first beer. I
Andrew cracked mine. I'm doing well. Andrew,
Everett I am in very a very fortunate position that you share with me to be very excited about the state of college football.
Andrew Yes. There are probably
Everett about four football fan bases in the country right now that feel as good as us.
Andrew About three of those feel better
Everett than us. But we are fans of the Oregon.
Andrew Definitely three feel better. Football
Everett team. And a many feel worse. On this last Friday, we played Oregon State for our last ever conference rivalry game against our little brothers in Corvallis. Uh, which is actually pretty sad. We watched that game together.
Andrew Yeah. Uh and and then this
Everett week we play for the pack twelve ch anyway. It's
Andrew the last one. It it like so
Everett the pack twelve is dissolving. If you guys didn't
Andrew be the pack two. Uh
Everett and so there's a lot of history that's going away this year. Uh or it's not- I guess the history doesn't go anywhere. The history is just there.
Andrew Over. It's now real history.
Everett But it it w's not something that we'll be doing again. Uh, which is sad. But but also it just it like excited about the team. It's a really fun team. Uh they've been really fun to watch. So it excited, big football game on this Friday.
Andrew We play Washington second
Everett or third best team in the country, depending on who you talk to. Uh that's exciting. And if we win, we probably get into the college football playoff. You know, we're not from the South. We're not from Alabama or Georgia. We don't get to see this stuff all the time.
Andrew True, it's been some time since we've been invited to play.
Everett 2014 was our last foray, I believe.
Andrew Uh I think so.
Everett Ish around that time. So anyway, uh it's exciting. So I'm excited. And it's sort of it's sort of infiltrating my uh being. I'm thinking a lot about college football right now.
Andrew Yes. Uh but but
Everett good. I'm doing well. Andrew, how are you?
Andrew I am also good. I got some new boots in the mail today. They're not my other thing. I ordered some they
Everett are your other thing? No, they they're not my other
Andrew thing. Well, why wouldn't these these be your other thing?
Everett Well, because I don't know yet. Okay. Uh
Andrew but I got some preview. Yeah, some some Danner Mokto on their Black Friday sale. They came a day earlier than expected. I hit them with some Huberts. I'm wearing them dry and one thing that I really like about Danner is that they are almost universally comfortable right out of the box. There's like some stiff points typically, especially with an all-leather upper. Uh but you get some hubirds in there or some your shoe grease of choice and wear them. They soften up really nice. I yeah. I you you recommended Thorough Goods and I and I I don't disagree with your assessment. I'm just I'm really comfortable with Danner because they're a brand of boots that I've worn. Gosh I don't know, probably a dozen different varieties. I know how they fit.. I like them So that's what I went with.
Everett Well, and Danner's an Oregon company. These are made in Portland, I believe.
Andrew Yeah. So it's it's fun to
Everett support that company. Um, you know, I've been to that factory. I think you probably been to the factory too.
Andrew I have been. Yeah. When we were in
Everett in in the army, they would they would donate gift certificates for the ROTC folks to come up and I did a little mini factory tour and got to pick some boots. It was pretty
Andrew cool. You know, if
Everett you can't picture this boot at home, it is the wedge sole mock toe. It's that white sole. It doesn't have like a 90 degree heel. Um and and and in my mind, that is like the that's Thoroughgood is the boot. But you know, these of course look like they're terrifically made and it's that classic look.
Andrew Yeah. And I'm sure they're gonna last
Everett you forever and ever and you're gonna love them. Probably. I think
Andrew another kind of boot that you can get resold.
Everett Yeah, it's a stitch-downsole, but I think it's a repairable strip stitch downsole.
Andrew It is, according to their uh literature.
Everett I I actually I think I I'm not sure if the thorough goods are are welted or if
Andrew they're stitched down as well. I don't know.
Everett Either got them in the mail today. I've
Andrew been wearing them all night. I actually changed out of a pair of Clarks to put these on.
Everett They look great. And uh they feel good. They look great.
Andrew Yeah. So yeah, I'm good. I'm I'm happy.
Everett In any event, Andrew, we're not talking about boots or football today. Although we we did talk about boots and football.
Andrew However, brief. R rather,
Everett we're talking about watches and we're gonna do a bit of a year in review of watches. Maybe not a year in review, but we're gonna highlight our favorite watches of the last year.
Andrew The ones we can remember, because a lot happened this year, and I don't think that we got to them all. I know we missed at least five that didn't even make it into our conversation for our picks.
Everett 12 watches tonight. W with that said, these are not uh the only 12 watches that we think are cool. And and weren't these aren't even the the the 10 or 12 watches that we think are the best, but these are the ones that we think are the most notable and the most interesting to us. So I think it's fair to say our favorite watch releases of the year. Yeah. But the criteria being very loose.
Andrew S what w what we could remember today.
Everett Subjective. Well you know, uh I I feel pretty confident. I went through I went through our notes, I went through watch releases. I I feel pretty confident with the lists we came up with. I think we're gonna cover a lot of ground. Um and yeah, i i if there's a release that you think we just didn't talk about that we should have, uh happy to have you send it our way. Uh with that said, don't don't feel bad. We're not leaving it off because we hate it. Or you.
Andrew Well, these are just the ones we wanted to
Everett talk about. So these are our 2023 favorite watches in no particular order. Andrew, do you do you want to kick us
Andrew off? I am gonna kick us off. I am gonna start us with what I think was one of the coolest releases of the year, and it was a swatch collaboration with Blanc Pond to do the 50 Fathoms collection in bioceramic. I think this is head and shoulders cooler than the Moon swatch.
Everett No, a hot take. This
Andrew is terrific. This was one of my like the most exciting releases of the year for me.
Everett Yeah, well, and even to the extent that it, you know, I'm not sure that either one of us was clamoring to buy this thing. I still think it's probably one of the most notable watch releases of the year. You know, I I think it's pretty hard to argue that it's not.
Andrew I the the the designs that they do, the Arctic in that kind of gray tan with the orange, the Pacific Ocean with the kind of gradient black to white with a yellow bioceramic case, the Atlantic in blue, Indian in green, and Antarctic in all white and gray, the the unique touches that are on each of these watches, the history that they brought forward out of the fifty fathoms. It it's this is cool.
Everett You know, I I think some of the thrill of the release, the the Speedmaster Moon Swatch, I I think w was sucked away by the release of that watch. Um and and and and so I I think this hit the the market with a little less hoorah. Uh with that said, I I think it's probably it's a certainly objectively a better watch. Um you have a lot a lot higher attention to detail, just from tip to tail, you've got the automatic system 51 movement. Uh it I I think for me personally, it's maybe a little less special just as a speed master person. Um but gosh, I I think you'd be hard pressed uh to get me to kick one of these out of bed.
Andrew Oh yeah, I didn't bite them all into bed. I don't know if I'm man enough to handle it, but the seven C's as it were, but
Everett Do you know if these are relatively available these days?
Andrew Uh you know, I didn't do any looking for them. I don't know.
Everett I don't know. And which of these assuming you pick one up, which of these do you think you wind up with?
Andrew I think if I pick one up, I I'm going with the uh with the Antarctic.
Everett I think it's the it's Antarctic. The the one that that feels like it's the most versatile to me. But I'm pretty keen on that Indian Ocean.
Andrew The green. Yeah. The the green. That that has you written all over it.
Everett It's pretty sexy. Yeah. The Pacific
Andrew kind of bummed me out. Um in the in my least favorite. I don't I don't particularly like that yellow and black color combination in this application.
Everett Yeah if you're like maybe like a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, this would be the watch for you.
Andrew Yeah, this is this is a Steelers fan.
Everett But I'm not a Steelers fan. Boo Steelers.
Andrew Yeah. Swing your terrible towel above your head next to your terrible watch. Uh it's not a terrible watch. It's just because it's not even that I don't like it. It's just my least favorite of the series.
Everett You know, we talked a little, we talked a lot in the in the community and that you and I talked a little bit on this show when this came out about, you know, what else, what else could we see in terms of Satwch collaborations. And and you know, I don't I don't have any insight into whether Swatch is gonna do more of these. Um but I do wonder if maybe uh the somewhat ho-hum reception to these. And and maybe that's not fair to say it's been a home ho home reception, but I think l a lot less excitement about these than we saw with the moon swatch. And I wonder if if that will
Andrew I temper future forays. I think uh I think there's less excitement just simply because people get more excited about the Speedmaster than than almost any other release. There is just such a cult following and fan base to the Speedmaster uh that just doesn't exist with the 50 Fathoms in in a way that just never will. Yeah. Um
Everett I mean it's just the coolest watch ever made.
Andrew And it's been the moon.
Everett And it's cool. And it's cool. Cool moon done.
Andrew It's got all the things. Uh sorry, I get why the excitement is out there. I don't know I don't recall actually if these are brick and mortar only. I think they are also brick and mortar only, uh, in the same way that the moon's watch is, which is an interesting marketing technique. Um, and it's a bummer for those of us who don't live near to uh swatch AD. Um
Everett it looks like these are available for
Everett not crazy amounts of money. Like four
Andrew or five hundred bucks? Yeah. So they're retailing
Andrew at four, I think. Uh
Everett gosh. You can buy these on the website. Oh. No, maybe
Andrew not. No. I thought I
Everett thought maybe you could, but it looks like that's not true. Gotcha.
Andrew Yeah, you gotta it you see stores. So you this is brick and mortar sale only. Um yeah. I think I think we've said enough about the the bioceramic fifty fathoms collection.
Everett Yeah. Uh I've got a watch. Do me that I'd like to talk about. I'm going to start with Christopher Ward's the 12th.
Andrew Interesting. Is that all you have to
Everett say? That's it.
Andrew So I first
Everett a few caveats. I really am not
Everett crazy about any of the dial colors
Everett they've released this in. I like the silver. The Arctic White.
Andrew Oh, is it Arctic White? Is my
Everett favorite of the dial colors they've released this in? But I am a black dial kind of fellow. Um the
Everett blue they've used, I think,
Everett is a little too blue. With that said, it is really hard to deny the
Andrew Well they use the two blues. They have the Yeah, they've got the glacier blue,
Everett which is blah, and they've got the astral blue, which is an ombre.
Andrew Yeah. And then there's the Nordic blue.
Everett Right. I like the Nordic blue. I do like the basalt gray dial. I do like the, I think that's how you say that. Basalt. Basalt?
Andrew Yeah. Um, I wish it was
Everett a little bit rubber. Wish it was a little bit darker.
Andrew Just a touch. Just touch.
Everett Um, but look, so what you get here is a really,
Everett really lovely
Everett looking watch that's made. I've seen these, they're made to terrific standards. And they're under 10 millimeters thick, which if you've listened to any of
Everett the episodes of 40 and 20
Everett podcast in the last year, you know is kind of my thing right now. Thinner is better. Um I made a comment. I was talking about this watch to some folks today, and I made a comment that my biggest problem with this watch is the existence of the Antarctic, right? This watch when it came out, I thought, well, holy crap, this looks a lot like a Chopek Antarctic.be May Chapic. Antarctic. Chapit. And that bothered me a little bit. Uh you know, just it's it's a little bit too derivative. Well, what I found, what this person what what someone told me today is they're designed by the same frickin' dude. So uh Adrian Buckman, Chapic Designer, and Christopher Ward designer came out and uh said, Hey, I designed both of these watches, which is why looking at the Chapek Antarctic, you might think that looks a lot like the Christopher Ward 12 and vice versa, because they're actually designed by the same people. Still derivative, but more of like a uh royal oak nautilus deal at this point.
Andrew Yeah it's I don't know if you can even call it derivative if it's the same designer. It's just the same design language existing in it.
Everett I think that's right. I think that's right.
Andrew And the same fingerprints, if you will.
Everett The same fingerprints. And it's actually still just a terrific watch. So for $1,300, um, this brings up a bit of a I'm gonna I'm gonna leak a uh honorable mention, which is the Nevada Grenchan F77. Also a really terrific watch released this year. Uh fantastic movement. I think Nevada is a really fun company that does a lot of exciting stuff. They make really great watches. And I kind of put these in the same. I mean, they're these steel integrated sports watches. But the the F-77 is like 12 and a half millimeters thick for about the same price. I mean, you just can't do a heck of a lot better than this 12.
Andrew I have two complaints.
Everett Give them to me, baby. Number one.
Andrew I don't see how this watch fits into the Christopher Ward catalog of watches. Uh it kind of fits when you look at some of the things that Christopher Ward has been releasing in the way of the Celeste and the Belcanto and that kind of um almost novelty. They're not novelty watches, but they're novel designs. Maybe more innovative, like they have their their mainstream, and then they've got their RD section doing some interesting kind of outlier shit. Um that's the only way this works for me in in the greater Christopher Ward ecosystem. And number two, the only two iterations that are in titanium are my least like they're they're my bottom in my bottom three of all of the available options. They only have the titanium in 40 millimeter. This this is released in a 36 and a 40. They only have the titanium in the astral blue, which is the ombre.
Everett Yeah. I'm not super jacked even
Andrew about the the center blue saturation. It's just it's not doesn't do it for me. Um and purple. And though it's a really lovely purple, neither of those are colors on a dial that I would ever wear or even consider wearing or give a second thought to. And it just bums me out. I would I would love to see that Arctic White in 36 in titanium.
Everett How much are these uh how much are these guys in American dollars? They're sixteen hundred pounds.
Andrew In American dollars, uh in titanium, they're eighteen ninety-five. Uh the Halo versions, which feature a rose gold bezel, are 2500. And then the um just your standard fare are twelve twenty-five in dollars. Uh they're under a thousand if you get them on rubber and they look really good on rubber.
Everett So there you have it. But you want it on a bracelet.
Andrew Christopher Ward does phenomenal bracelets.
Everett No, this and it's I mean it's an integrated steel sports watch. You buy the fucking bracelet.
Andrew Yeah, you get it on the bracelet, and you know that you're gonna get one of the best bracelets available on the market out of the Christopher Ward.
Everett One of the watches of the year. Yeah.
Andrew Even though I I don't particularly dig it.
Everett You know, I I think that it's a great platform. You had made a comment that it doesn't fit in the Christopher Ward catalog. I I I maybe disagree
Everett just to the extent that it
Everett it feels like a really nice niche that Christopher Ward hadn't dipped their feet into. And it
Everett is different. It's certainly different
Everett than the light catcher case. Uh, it's got a different feel.
Everett You know, this is like a Chop-Ek
Everett looking Christopher Ward. It's not that real
Everett sporty utility
Everett divey thing that they've done. With that said, you know, we've got brands likeike perhaps Monta or or maybe
Everett Laurier, which really don't
Everett branch out, right? They've got their design language and
Everett it's so inherent that
Everett they struggled to get out of there. I don't see that with Christopher Ward, and I think that this is a great platform for them to build on. I
Andrew don't know that I see that with Laurier either. They've got really clear design language, but they have some pretty versatile selections.
Everett Well then just in the last year, last year and a half or so.
Andrew Zephyr's like two years old now? Yeah.
Everett You know, r kind of branched out. But before that it was really that's m maybe uh unfair comparison, both unfair to Christopher Ward and unfair to Laurier slash Monto. But w with that said, I I'm okay with a brand having significant
Everett branches. And this feels to
Everett me like a significant branch,
Everett uh, which maybe there wasn't a lot
Everett of groundwork laid for, but I think it's a smash success and I'm totally fine just now saying, yeah, that's the new Christopher Ward. I'm cool with it.
Andrew That's their it's their innovation division.
Everett What's next? Uh next up for me
Andrew is the Alpina Alpiner Heritage Carey Automatic. I am totally smitten by this watch.
Everett Yeah, you are. It's it's gorgeous.
Andrew I I love absolutely everything about it. Um my color pick is the uh gray dialed version. This thing is just is gorgeous. And it is another watch that like just doesn't quite fit for me in the in the typical Alpina line. Um, but when I mean we we know what makes this watch special. These are original, what, 1938 manufactured movements. Uh these are these are super cool. And not just because of the design, but because they were able to reach back into this this treasure trove of antique movements, get 'em up and running, drop 'em in watches, and build something really beautiful around them. I'm I'm totally for it. This is this is a great release.
Everett Were these limited? I believe they were,
Everett right? Actually severely limited. Yeah,
Andrew there wasn't there was like how many? Uh I can't find how many. There wasn't a ton.
Everett It does look like you can find these. I'm
Andrew sure they exist. You can't get them direct from Alpina.
Andrew Um there's a black dial
Everett available from Iguana Cell. Don't don't don't go there. Don't take my word for that. Do your own research.
Andrew Don't buy that. Uh do
Everett your own research. Uh yeah, no, these are terrific. This is a terrific release. It is I would never wear this watch. It's just the
Andrew furthest thing from uh my
Everett style that as you can get. I'd wear the shit
Andrew out of this watch. Really a cool watch,
Everett though. Yeah.
Andrew Sixteen hundred bucks. I mean, for for for all
Andrew the bang you're getting, that's that's a I think a a good price for a nineteen thirty-eight movement in this package. Thirty meters of water resistance though, so you're you're gonna have to treat this one gentle.
Everett Yeah, don't take it in the hot tub.
Andrew No No. I want to be
Andrew able to wear it in the hot tub. It's also on leather, so I'm probably not gonna wear it in the hot tub anyway. I know leather is totally fine to get wet. I just don't like it to get wet because I don't like the way wet leather feels on my wrist.
Everett You know, Alpina's one of those brands uh that I just don't know that much about, don't feel really comfortable with their catalog. Um
Andrew I'm the same way. But everybody,
Everett nobody ever says, oh Alpina. Uh I think people love them.
Andrew Yeah. I have found a
Everett watch for you, Andrew. Oh,
Andrew do it. Look at the alpineer
Everett sport quartz rainbow this is a 36 and a half millimeter dive watch
Andrew is this what we were gonna is is this as you're just rolling through their catalog or is this uh one of your picks? No
Everett this, is a watch for you.
Andrew It's not not. Yeah, it's
Everett not not. Um, okay. That is not my next watch. My next watch of 2023 is oh gosh, and this is a good one. Okay. The tag warrior,
Everett oh yeah. Carrera
Everett skipper specifically, but really the Taghoyer glass box chronograph. Yes.
Everett These aren't cheap. Which
Andrew makes sense because they're taghoyer. I I don't I don't they're super understand Taghoire's pricing, but people are paying it, so
Everett these are makes sense. A little outside of what we would normally uh what we would normally buy. The skipper in particular, I think, is six thousand almost seven grand. Um but this is a recreation of an old watch sort of increased in size, but done so really tastefully. So it's a 39 millimeter chronograph, which is a terrific size.
Everett Such a good size for that, especially because it's all
Andrew dial. So it's an it's gonna
Andrew even still feel big at 39 big
Everett vintage feeling quote unquote glass box uh crystal uh jeez These are terrific. These are terrific. The sort of dish on the dial and the dimension and the handsets, in particular with the skipper, the colors you get, that really rich blue and the teal and the orange, the case is just totally terrific. The shape of the pushers, the position of the pushers, the crown. I love everything about this watch. I think this may
Everett be the one of the
Everett very few watches that is not sold on a bracelet that I'm like, yes, please give it to me.
Andrew I'm I'm okay with that. I'd like to see it on a bracelet.
Andrew Imagine that on mesh. Ooh, girl.
Everett Well, and you can put this on mesh, no problem. Uh I
Andrew want their mesh. Sure.
Andrew That's what I want. Or a bond clip.
Everett Yeah, I was gonna say put the thing on a bond clip, I think, would would be great.
Andrew Oh, that'd be good. Like gives
Andrew me like a little bit of shut. Ooh, on like the Sereka
Andrew bond clip that pay just wafer thin. Ooh.
Andrew Not there, that's not a bond clip. It's their um
Andrew yeah, it's a bong clip. Yeah, I think it is.
Everett Yeah. Um with the with the skipper, you do get uh well, so first the I'll just say the movement on these glass
Andrew box chronographs is phenomenal.
Everett 80 hour 288 automatic
Everett chronograph movement. Uh with the skipper version, you get a modified movement that has a 15-minute rather than a 30-minute register, which I think
Everett is a lot of fun. Uh you get
Everett small seconds. Central seconds on the chronograph. Come on.
Andrew How thick is this? Come it okay,
Everett so it doesn't you it's really hard to find. They are about fourteen millimeters thick.
Andrew It makes sense. Automatic chronograph. I accept.
Everett Yeah with a chunky but I think it's a giant crystal.
Andrew Yeah. So they are 14 millimeters
Everett thick, which it is. It
Everett is what it is, you guys. It's gonna be bothersome
Andrew to some. It's no 7750.
Andrew So I was wearing my fifteen millimeter yeah.
Everett My fifteen millimeter seventy seven
Everett fifty all day and yeah. And and I was put
Andrew on an F ninety one. Just to lighten the load.
Everett That's right. I got home and I was like, Oh my shoulders
Everett getting tired. Uh and yeah, I am wearing an F-91. Actually, it's an F-84.
Andrew Oh God, I'm an asshole. It's an F-84W.
Everett Um yeah, so movement TH2006. I
Everett think this is, I'm not gonna say the best
Everett chronograph releases of the year, but
Everett I think this is probably
Everett my favorite chronograph release of the year.
Andrew Even more than the rowing blazers.
Everett Yeah, well, I said when the rowing blazers came out, I said,
Everett wish they would use the glass box. You did,
Andrew and so now we're at the glass box. Because that rowing blazers color scheme
Everett is dope. Pretty cool. I'd like it a lot better if it was a glass box. Instead, it's a 41 millimeter Carrera chronograph case. Fine. Fine. Fine. Fine.
Andrew Oh tragedy. Fine. Yeah.
Everett I really like this release. Tag hoyer did some really cool
Andrew shit this year, and I don't
Andrew think they get enough uh appreciation in our community.
Everett I think it's sort of easy to look over. You
Everett know, uh they're weird, they're an odd
Andrew price point. They do a lot of courts. They're
Andrew doing some really interesting and innovative
Andrew stuff this year and last, like really in the last three years, they've started to dive back into their catalog and bring back all the shit that made them cool originally. Yeah. And they're re-kind of reesta-blishing that identity. They're moving away from being the golf brand with tons of brand ambassadors. Uh and I'm I'm liking the direction they're going
Andrew in. You know, when you and I
Everett got into watches twenty thirteen, fourteen, 15, that that era I I think was really sort of the tail end of Tag Hoyer. Tag Hoyers kind of bl you know, still making a lot of primarily quartz watches at that point. And and I think that their reputation was sort of some you know, maybe not cemented, but certainly set at that point in the negative. Um and then I I think it was four, three or four years ago they changed out leadership and I
Everett think they've done some really good stuff. Yeah,
Andrew they're doing all kinds of cool stuff. Yeah.
Andrew Um, next up for me, this could
Andrew be my favorite release of the year. Not just because of how fun it is, but also how cool it is in the way of the studio underdog field watch. What is it called? It's the
Everett Studio Underdog Field
Everett W Oh, what is it? Oh
Andrew gosh. It's the Field Watch Collection. Yeah. Um
Everett no, but they call it something specific.
Andrew He does. Let me find it. Darn
Everett it, Andrew. Ah just
Everett never prepared. You never. You look
Andrew for it. I'm gonna talk about why it's so cool.
Andrew So um th this is not just the Studio Underdog cool color palette. Field
Everett O2. Field O2. That
Andrew was super hard for us to remember. Um, it is a sapphire dial with printing on top of the sapphire kind of and then a plate beneath the sapphire so you have floating markers that cast shadows around the dial. Uh, Will took some photographs of these that really captured that floating marker.
Andrew I don't know, you can call it a marker, the floating
Andrew indices is, I think, the only way you can it's super unique.
Everett Numerals, it's absolutely
Andrew one-of-a-kind design,
Andrew it's so creative and innovative. This is like why people get excited about watches because we can the moment we think, all right, well, we've seen
Andrew it all. Now we have an affordable minute
Andrew repeater. Affordable-ish. But now it's out there. We get cool
Andrew innovation from young and exciting brands like this
Andrew innovating with materials and
Andrew their application within watch design. And this is so cool. And he
Andrew he stays true to himself in the way of his great color palettes and the playfulness of the watch. We've got full loom options, we've got all manner of stuff that makes this not just your what would otherwise be a very attractive field watch without all that cool shit happening.
Everett You know, I've heard mixed reviews on this
Andrew watch. Uh I think that there is a
Everett a bit of derision about the screws on the dial. In fact, some impassioned derision about the screws on the dial. I love I like them a lot. I think that they look fantastic. They
Andrew create some symmetry, add some more depth and texture to that dial. I typically wouldn't
Andrew be one for them. Um they're practical,
Everett but you know. Yeah. They're practical, they're
Andrew necessary. And it does something to capture the depth of the dial um where where you can where you can see level changes where that screw ends against where the dial ends it's yeah
Everett you know we we waxed poetic on these when we first talked about 'em and I think I think w we we're probably inclined to do that again. I w I I know I know we're sort of in lockstep on this. I think this is a terrific release. I think ri Richard Bence uh had really set himself up to have a challenging second release. Yeah. And I didn't see this coming.
Andrew Mm-hmm. No,
Everett because it would have been really easy for him to just keep
Andrew playing the fiddle of wild colors in a chronograph or just wild colors in a field watch. He's like, I got I I got I got a little more in the tank.
Everett And and as a designer, I think that that's that that's the mark of a designer that they could do something different and fun and good. And and with both of these watches, with both of Studio Underdogs' releases now, you see a watch that looks
Everett kind of basic at
Everett arm's length, and then you get it a little bit closer and you're like, man,
Everett this is just terrific. Yeah, when
Andrew you see these in person, it's a whole a whole new experience too.
Everett So well done. I love this watch.
Andrew And I like Richard. I like I
Everett like Richard too. Yeah,
Everett these are great. What
Andrew you got? Next
Everett up for me, second best watch of the year. The Laurier Hydra S3 GMT Diver.
Andrew Yeah. Alright.
Everett So this has been the year of affordable automatic GMTs with
Andrew It has been both Seiko and
Everett Miyota releasing their affordable GMT movements in the last what, I
Everett eighteen months, I think at this point.
Everett This was the year. Yeah, and like early,
Andrew like first quarter this year is when we saw all the all the the releases using those movements.
Everett This was the year of the 9075, and
Everett there were a lot of
Everett terrific 9075 watches that I
Everett wanted to talk about that we could have talked about. We
Andrew could have spent the whole episode just talking about those watches.
Everett We sure could. Certainly the Trask Aventure GMT, I think is just
Andrew and terrific. Jack Mason turned making a huge brand pivot with their first iteration of the GMT that's right and turning away from being what was I mean arguably exclusively a fashion brand to like a a honest to goodness watch brand.
Everett That's right. Well, at least a a brand with an honest to goodness
Andrew watch. Yeah. Um there's
Andrew there's always time to fail, I suppose. You know,
Everett they just and and this watch
Everett is so Laurier, but also not anything like anything we've seen from Laurier. Um
Everett it's got an incredible amount of a depth for a brand
Everett that typically leans on its more simple,
Everett austere designs. You've
Everett got that 60-minute bezel, you've got the internal 24-hour um geez.
Everett Well, what more to say? Laurier really
Everett hit it out of the park. The case is fantastic, very much a Laurier case,
Everett but also different than anything we've seen.
Everett I believe the insert on the bezel is sapphire.
Andrew If if you took their logo off of it, you would still recognize this as Laurier.
Everett Yeah, I think so. I I think
Everett so very much.
Everett Um Um, yeah, I I don't really know what more to say. Perfectly sized. It's only 12.2 millimeters thick, which for
Everett an automatic GMT, they've done really well. Dimensions
Everett are great. You've got 14-6
Andrew wrist of crystal with that big with it with a little bit of dome.
Everett BGW9 and C1, 200
Everett meters of water resistance,
Everett and all of this. For 600 bucks. Yeah. Yeah.
Andrew As if as if the it wasn't good enough.
Andrew You can really afford it. All of this for
Everett 600 bucks. We talked about the we
Everett talked about the um
Everett Um trasca last week. I said, man, this is just really, you know, the value. I
Everett said that and almost completely forgot
Everett about that w this watch when I was talking about
Everett Trasca, as wonderful as the Trasca is, and
Everett I don't take anything back. Well, and this is only two years
Andrew separated from Baltic and Laurier both dropping what were at the time the most affordable GMTs at between 900 and $1,000.
Everett Yeah. Yeah. I want to say the Baltic was maybe twelve or eleven.
Andrew Yeah. I thought it was just under a thousand.
Everett You could be right. Uh and so yeah,
Everett here we are with a better
Everett dimensions, clearly, in my mind, a much better design watch. Um
Everett yeah, what's not to love?
Andrew The I'm I'm really enjoying
Andrew watching Laurier's growth and their uh kind of evolution as designers. I'm I'm enjoying watching that. Because we started with the um the Falcon, right? That's that's the first Laurier
Andrew coming out of like really hitting the
Andrew scene, and then they expand with the Neptune
Andrew and the Hydra.
Andrew We see the Zephyr last year or was it two years ago? Fairly recently.
Everett Yeah. Because I think we we put hands on in New York in October.
Andrew Yeah. We're seeing some iterative
Andrew design coming out of uh the Hydra and
Andrew the Neptune. We're on a we're on like the V3 of the Neptune, aren't we?
Everett Yeah, I think so. Um I'm I'm
Andrew loving watching their growth.
Everett And they're and they're just terrific people, terrific, lovely people.
Andrew Also that. Also don't fight Lorenzo. Just
Andrew or do. But make sure somebody's recording.
Everett Yeah. World star.
Andrew What's next? Uh next up for me.
Andrew How are we doing on time? We're doing pretty okay.
Andrew Uh next up for me, this got me
Andrew super excited because something that I'd always lamented with Marathon was that their navigator
Andrew and like that their line of just
Andrew resin cases. And as much as I really like a resin case, I'd like to have a steel case option. The
Andrew Marathon Navigator coming out in steel with that beautiful
Andrew asymmetric case, that super tool watch.
Andrew Everett's making weird faces at the
Andrew the beer can.
Everett And a bit of a weird aftertaste. We're
Andrew drinking a strange afterbirth.
Everett Like a juicy, hazy IPA. And it's got a little bit of like a some acid aftertaste.
Andrew A little bit. It's all the citrus in the it's probably
Andrew just a bucket load of citra hops in here. I'm
Andrew not sure. I can't read it because it was a little dark. A
Andrew little so a little soapy on the back end. That last
Everett drink was just a touch soapy. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I just opened the can, so that's
Everett that would be odd, but on the cans.
Andrew Anyway, uh so it's the
Andrew marathon navigator, but in steel, and I think it's super cool. This it
Andrew it I really want a navigator anyway, and I've I've always kind of
Andrew wanted one. And this creates a dilemma
Andrew for me where I think I now need two, because I
Andrew really want it in steel. Because their dive watches come in steel, and that was it. Everything else was this resin case, which has a lot of really great application, is really awesome. But I super appreciate that they decided to make this in a steel offering, and it's it looks absolutely terrific. Uh if they drop it in titanium, I'll be buying in triplicate.
Everett Yeah, you know, uh uh these came out with an NSN number.
Everett Uh it's just like here's the new watch. This is the new
Everett one. SS Nav D. 316, 41mm, 11 millimeters thick,
Everett 48mm log to lug. Do
Andrew you have a navigator? H case. No, I don't. I've
Everett been very close to pulling the trigger several times.
Andrew I thought you had a navigator. You have a marathon, don't don't you?
Everett I do not have a marathon.
Everett I borrowed a CSAR for a while. Oh that's
Andrew wow. I have a Pulsar G10.
Everett I know you have the Pulsar. I thought you had I
Andrew I must remember that when you had the C-Sar.
Everett I yeah. The CSAR I thought was a terrible watch, by the way.
Andrew I don't know how we haven't acquired
Andrew one of these. I think we gotta do it, man. Splitsies?
Everett Eight hundred bucks. We'll get the resin
Andrew case. I mean eight
Everett hundred bucks is such a terrific price on these.
Andrew Yeah, I think I don't I don't I don't have
Andrew any disagreement with you on it. One of your watches of the
Everett year. Is it a steel bezel on these or
Everett is it aluminum? Do you know? It looks aluminum
Andrew just from photographs. But uh given that it has an NSN number, I I don't think they know what it's made out of.
Everett Yeah, hard to say. Tradium tubes.
Andrew And I love trit. Tritium is just the coolest thing.
Everett I think some people think will probably say,
Everett even for high high torque quartz, this has got the ETA
Andrew F06412. Even with high torque
Everett quartz, it's a little bit high.
Andrew I think it's kind of fine. Uh yeah, I'd like to see it a little bit lower, but it's just because I want to buy it. Right. This is also one of the few watches that you can wear a compass on
Andrew the strap. And it doesn't
Everett look weird. And you're not an asshole.
Everett Do you know if these are fixed bars, Andrew?
Andrew They are, I believe. I think all of them are fixed.
Everett Yeah. I'm looking, it
Everett looks to me like that's a spring bar actually.
Andrew I think they might be spring it might be a spring bar watch. Let's see.
Everett Yeah, cool watch. And something you
Everett you know, there's there's a lot of watches
Everett out there that feel like
Everett you know, Bill Yao's MK2 is making
Andrew these, uh Benrist is making these.
Everett Th there's a lot of watches out there that feel
Everett really similar to this. But this is it.
Andrew This is the watch. But this
Everett is yeah. There's a lot of people
Andrew out there making things that look like a sub. And they look like a sub.
Everett Yeah, I mean, I I'm gonna throw it out there that arguably
Everett this is a Benris. Uh but Benrus is not Benriss.
Andrew And it doesn't have an SN number. Nothing. You couldn't unethically order this for yourself through the army supply or not a Benrist through the Army supply.
Everett Nothing is what it appears.
Andrew You could unethically order this for
Andrew me through the army supply system. Any of you who have purchasing capability, um I'll I'll spot you for the flip-hole.
Everett Um Andrew, are you ready for my watch of the
Andrew year? Do it. My watch
Everett of the year is a Zen T50.
Everett Give it to me in regular
Everett titanium. Give it to
Everett me in gold bronze. Just give it to me.
Everett This is my watch of the year. This
Everett is, so if you don't know what it is, just stop. Okay. Go figure it out. This is Zinn's. You know, evolution of the 50 series in full titanium or gold gold bronze or a mix of the two. Uh come on. They're not cheap.
Andrew Okay. Okay, you guys, they're not cheap.
Everett Nothing from Zen is cheap, and you're not gonna get
Andrew it from Zen direct, so you're gonna pay markup somehow.
Everett But it's a 300-1 fully titanium gorgeous
Everett dive watch that doesn't look like anything else. Fully antimagnetic, water resistance. This is the 500 meters.
Everett That's right. I think that they are like uh on a
Everett brace at 4500 bucks. 4600
Andrew bucks. But it's all titanium.
Everett Fuck it, man. This is the shit.
Andrew That's what you're gonna pay for a Pelagose.
Everett Yeah, that's right. It's the same price as a Pelagose.
Andrew Yeah. Cheap. Well, same price
Everett as a as the BB58 Pelegos. It's cheaper than a than a full Pelegos, I think.
Andrew I think the five o'clock crown is weird.
Everett Yeah. Whatever. Yeah, it's weird. It's
Andrew but it it I also really like it. Fuck it.
Everett It's weird. I really like
Andrew it. Give it to me. The bezel shape I also really like. It's a I don't even know how you how you describe it's kind of monster. It's it's kind of like the monster with like big finger indents, but not
Andrew as dramatic. So it almost looks
Andrew like a like an octagon, like an angular bezel, but it's not. It's a round bezel with kind of deep cuts to get good grip on it. This is as to a watch a diver as they come. Weird crown placement. There's got to be a reason for. Maybe it's so you can not have to interact with your wrist when you're manipulating the crown.
Everett Yeah, but how does that work?
Andrew I don't fucking know. I don't wear my watches on that hand.
Everett I hear people talk about manipulating their crowns while they're wearing their watch. I cannot. I I have never
Everett left side, right side, doesn't matter. I can't do it.
Andrew I can't because the crowns are all pointing up my arm. Like reach over and get all contorted. I
Everett mean, I can reach it. I can get to it. I just can't do anything. You
Andrew just need a big crown. Or like a key winder, like a like a mantle clock.
Everett Anyway, this is my watch of the year. This is a this
Andrew is a good watch of the year. I I I love the U50. This 50 series is super great. I wish they were just cheaper. I wish there was
Everett a fully gold gold bronze bracelet.
Everett I just want this in full gold
Everett bronze. Case and bracelet.
Andrew That'd be pretty baller. Um, maybe more baller than I could handle. Uh, they're also using higher grade titanium than the Pelagos. You're just you're getting a lot more bang for your buck in this titanium dive watch. Uh, and it's way more unique. It's objectively way cooler than the Pelogose.
Everett Yeah. I won't it. I won't it. I do too.
Andrew It's also big. It's what 44?
Everett No. Looks huge. I think it's 41.
Everett I could be wrong about that. Yeah, I'm
Andrew looking.
Everett Uh 41 millimeters, 12.3 thick, 47
Andrew millimeters, lug to lug. It looks big. Whoever and
Everett it only weighs 53 grams.
Everett It's pretty pretty light. That's my watch of the
Andrew year. That's that's an interesting pick for the watch of the year.
Everett That's the one. My watch of the year.
Andrew Okay. Andrew, what about you? Um for me, my watch of the year. It's the studio underdog field watch. That's the one.
Everett So you didn't save it for last no.
Everett Okay, fair enough. W what's the
Everett other one that you have? Do you have another
Everett one? Or do we already get it through yours?
Andrew I think we're through we're through I had a I had a bunch.
Everett Okay. Right. Well we did. We both had a bunch. Well why don't we do this quickly? It's 51 minutes now. Why don't we quickly go through a
Everett couple honorable mentions? Because I know we both had couple that we want to talk
Andrew about. Yes. Start with you. C63 Celeste.
Everett Oh yeah. Super
Andrew cool application. I love the adventurine dial. And I love introducing the adventurine into the C63 line. It's such a perfect fit because it takes this really sporty watch. It drives the class through the roof. It's I think it's better than the moon phase because it's an actually legible watch as beautiful as the moon phase is in the C63 is amazing.
Everett What else? Uh the
Andrew swatch bioceramic what-ifs.
Everett Oh yeah, these are fun. Ocean King
Andrew V3 timex giorgio galley s2
Everett oh yeah that's that's a that's a nominee
Everett for for for our main pick that that just barely missed
Andrew and two picks for me
Andrew that fix their size
Andrew is the Orient Mako coming down to 40 millimeters and the BrO3 reducing just slightly down to a 41 millimeter watch.
Everett That BRO3. Fantastic release.
Everett I wish I wish those were more affordable.
Andrew Me too. Because at the price,
Everett they're too much for me. Um, I already talked about the Nevada Grunchen F77. Definitely an
Everett honorable mention for me. Uh Trask Avenger GMT
Everett also talked about that. Very much honorable mention. And then the only one I haven't talked about yet is the bull of a jet
Andrew star. Yes. Will
Everett picked up the complecto version of this, but I think this the main releases are great too. Really a terrific watch.
Everett Great bracelet, great case shape.
Everett Uh, you know, re-release of
Everett an old watch that I think actually may,be got smaller.
Everett Just a terrific watch. Yes.
Andrew Oh, and the the lunar pilot down back down to the original size.
Everett Yeah. From Bulova. Bulova
Andrew doing some cool shit this year, too. Bul Bulova,
Everett Bulva with the citizen marriage,
Andrew I think, is going to wind
Everett up being a company to watch in
Everett the next several years. They're already a company to
Everett watch, but they just need to stop missing
Andrew the clutch shot. That's
Everett right. I think one hundred percent. I think we're gonna start seeing some good stuff from Bolivar. Well, with that said, I think we can put a wrap on this year. We we
Everett will be back this year. Yeah,
Andrew we're not gonna like hang it up and and take a sabbatical.
Everett But I think that that we're wrapping our 2023 with these thoughts in mind.
Andrew Mm-hmm. So it's
Everett been a great year. Let us know what your favorite watches, if we didn't talk about them.
Andrew And there's a bunch we didn't there's there's a
Everett bunch obviously. Um but I'd I'd like
Everett to hear your thoughts on that. So let us know. Uh Andrew. Other things what do you got?
Andrew I have another thing. Uh so it
Andrew is that time of year. We are in that fall-winter transition period where it's like twenty-five degrees when you wake up and you go to the car, uh, and it remains under about 40 degrees for the majority of the day.
Andrew Warm socks are key, but I don't
Andrew like always wearing thick wool socks. So my other thing this week is the Pendleton wool socks. So I'm
Andrew wearing a pair right now, and these
Andrew are fairly
Andrew thin, just a hair thicker
Andrew than a dress sock. Like they're not quite that uh super
Andrew heavy, cotton, cushiony dress
Andrew sock thickness, or not even dress sock, but just single color crew sock thickness. But they're so warm, and because they're wool, they don't get like stanky, so you can do two days in them and not feel weird without them getting crispy or like funky.
Andrew Um they come in several
Andrew packs right now uh pendleton's
Andrew doing a black friday sale so
Andrew typically they're three packs are
Andrew 35 bucks. Right now, three packs are 26.25 on the website. And individual socks, not individual socks, single pairs of socks. You can't buy them on ones. Uh 1050 off of their typical $14. So not a huge discount, but definitely discounted price. They come in great patterns. I've got a couple different uh patterns of these and I absolutely love them. They don't fall down. They they just they you pull them up, you wear them, they're warm, but they're not like sweaty.
Everett Yeah. I love these socks in like
Andrew for all day wear in I wear Clark's all day, and Clarks like in not wool socks get really sweaty and yucky. Um these are great. Feet are dry, feet are warm, feet are happy all day.
Everett Pendleton wool socks. Pendleton wool socks.
Everett We actually had in our uh group
Everett chat we had a a conversation about wool socks and it made me think I I I think I'm gonna get a handful of wool socks, medium weight wool socks and sort of side by side them maybe not literally like one one. One each
Andrew foot. I like that. But left foot today
Andrew was real comfortable. Righty, man,
Andrew he was good. Because I think there are
Everett probably about four different
Everett brands making, you know, anywhere from $12 to $20 wool socks right now that are all really competitive. And I think I'd like to have like a a w winter wool sock guide. Because I'm with you. I don't want them to be super thick.
Andrew Mm-hmm. They
Everett need to have a little bit of beef to them. There's a day
Andrew for those. Yeah. That's right. There's a time and place. Because wearing some
Andrew like nice thick alpaca wool socks.
Andrew Like wearing slips all day. Well, Andrew,
Everett I've got another thing. Do it. Do me. And it's another thing
Everett that can be worn on top of your other thing.
Andrew It would actually be a really perfect combination. Sure
Andrew would. I picked up a
Everett new pair of golf shoes this year. They
Andrew are specifically the Air
Everett Max 90G.
Everett There's a thing that's happened in golf shoes in
Everett the last four or five years. Well, there's two things
Everett that have happened in golf shoes in the last four or five years. Uh w one is that uh spikeless golf shoes have proliferated and perhaps are even more popular now than spiked golf shoes. So I think
Everett ten years ago, if you went to buy golf shoes,
Everett you'd get spikes and you'd wear them on the golf course, and you really couldn't do much else with them. Certainly you didn't wear them to the golf course or from the golf course. You put them on when you got there.
Andrew Yep. You wore them while you were there, then you took
Everett them off. Uh so spikeless golf shoes have really, I think, as I said,
Everett proliferated. And it's nice because
Everett you can stick them on at home if you want to wear them
Everett to where you're going, you know, blow them
Everett off when you're done golfing, and then wear them home, uh, which is really
Everett nice. The other thing that's
Everett happened is brands, I think in particular Nike, but there are a few other players, have come out and released uh really pretty attractive shoes. So AirModics 90, one of the most famous shoe silhouettes of all time is probably in my mind the best possibility that you can get. You I picked these up this last year. I actually picked up a pair of I think that they well, they were like a bubble Air Max a couple years ago. I wasn't super happy with them. The bubble didn't work out. Um, these are
Everett much more conservative looking shoes.
Andrew They look just like Air Max's. It's
Everett just an Air Max 90. However, they've got a breathable
Everett but also sort of impervious shell
Everett on them. They've got really good
Everett paints on them. I have worn these in the mud twice, cleaned them, and on the back end they came out looking brand new. They've been perfectly waterproof. In fact, you and I, this last weekend, went to a gun range and went shooting. There was red clay. There was
Andrew there's still red clay on my floor mats and my whole fucking truck for that matter.
Everett But there was water. Um
Everett I I was warm. I was dry. I wore so I don't
Everett think I said I wore these golf shoes
Everett to go shooting and an outdoor shooting range,
Everett which is an interesting choice. I don't think you'd think the
Andrew color palette of the Air Max is actually had me questioning your decision. He said, Oh, these are my golf shoes and I was like okay I'm I'm with it
Andrew yeah right and you know they're
Everett they're they've got a heavy lug
Everett on the sole for grip they were for
Everett shooting they were perfect. There was they were
Everett absolutely perfect for shooting. Especially it was like I think it
Everett was probably like twenty-nine or thirty
Everett degrees when we got to the range. It never got above like thirty-three.
Andrew So uh and there was some moisture,
Everett there was dirt. It was nice to have something that was waterproof, that kept me dry, kept me warm. I
Everett think these and I've also just
Everett just for the record, I've golfed in these several times and they do just fine. Meanwhile,
Andrew everyone else there was in like some varietal of either roper boots or hiking boots.
Everett Which is the obvious choice. Yeah. It is the obvious choice, but I felt like wearing sneakers.
Andrew Now I'm with it. And I had the perfect
Everett sneakers. You absolutely did. Uh, my one
Andrew question about these is as golf shoes, so I've never worn spikeless golf shoes on a golf course. I've golfed not in golf shoes, and like I've I've golfed just in sneakers and felt like it didn't have the traction I wanted, especially during a drive. Um how are these on your grip.
Everett You know, I've not had that problem, Andrew.
Everett And so I I don't want to say they would be fine
Everett for you. What I do know is that
Everett they actually engineered the lugs on these. So they've got directionally engineered lugs that are meant to support the things your feet do while
Andrew you're golfing. Um because they're certainly not the same sole pattern.
Everett Is that effective? I have no clue. I have no clue if it's
Everett effective, but it works just fine for me.
Everett I think if you're someone who really wants to get
Everett that bite that you'd get with a spike, you might miss that a little bit. I have had zero traction problems golfing,
Everett and I've been wearing spikeless souls
Everett for five years at this point.
Andrew And I've exclusively. Yeah.
Everett So I just want that torque out of
Andrew the twist. I I I
Everett would I would give it a try. You you
Everett don't have to spend a hundred bucks. So
Everett woo every pair of shoes costs
Andrew a hundred bucks. I think you could probably
Everett get something if you if you were patient, you could probably get something for thirty-five or fifty bucks that's last year's model on a clothes out or something, but um
Everett or whatever, spend a hundred bucks and have a backup
Everett pair of golf shoes just like everyone else spend a
Andrew hundred bucks. That's right. So everything costs a hundred bucks.
Everett I think they're terrific and I'm actually kind of enamored
Everett by these shoes for their their utility, right? I I didn't ever feel like ugly uncomfortable golf shoes.
Everett They're just sort of like heavy duty waterproof sneakers.
Andrew Yeah. They looked good. They
Everett felt good. They were perfect for that application. So
Andrew they're they're Meryl Air Maxes.
Everett That's right. That's right. That's my other thing for the week. Specifically the Air Max 90G, because I've had a few different
Everett shoes of this oak. These
Everett are the first ones that I've ever had that I thought
Everett this is a great shoe. I would wear this.
Everett And I've only had them, I've think I've played
Everett maybe I
Andrew don't know. Mabey a hundred rounds of
Everett golf or a hundred holes of golf in them. A hundred holes. So maybe
Andrew a hundred rounds. Not a big deal. I don't have a ton of experience.
Everett And and now I've w worn them
Everett shooting as well. Uh guns. Uh and and they did fine in both those applications. It's I I
Everett think kind of an interesting it's an interesting
Everett application now to have this really sort of specific purpose shoe that is probably usable in other places if
Andrew you're hik aing shoe.
Everett Yeah. Just not as supportive. Not as supportive, but
Everett maybe not as flexible as you'd want in a hiking shoe.
Andrew Yeah. Very stiff?
Everett A little bit. Yep. Yep.
Andrew A little bit stiff. I'm intrigued.
Everett That's it. All right. That's it. I think that's a good place
Everett for us to leave off for the week. What do we think? I think we've
Andrew done it. We did it as per the usual.
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