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Serica, Clemence, and... Raymond Weil? (370)

Published on Mon, 01 Dec 2025 22:16:50 -0800

Synopsis

In this episode of The Watch Clicker Podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss recent watch releases and personal interests. They begin by catching up on Everett's birthday and their Thanksgiving experiences, including turkey preparation techniques. The bulk of the episode focuses on reviewing new watch releases, including the latest Moonswatch "Mission to Earth Phase Moonshine Gold" with its unique snow-dependent availability, the IFL Watches Boulevard Super Seville with hand-painted Van Gogh-inspired dials, Serica's innovative new Expedition bracelet, the improved Titanium Seascoper 600 with its updated bezel font, the Semier 47 Degrees North field watch collection, a tongue-in-cheek Raymond Weil x Seconde Seconde collaboration, Clements' Photic MK2 divers, Heinrich's Radiance Giosh with CNC guilloche, Wempe's Iron Walker Diver Bronze, and Ikepod's re-released HemiPod chronograph. In their "other things" segment, Andrew shares a star-gazing app he uses with his son's telescope, and Everett recommends Will Leathergood belts as a durable, quality alternative to disposable options.

Transcript

Speaker
Andrew Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 1420 The Watch Clicker Podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.
Everett Everett, how are you? I'm good. I'm well fed. You're well fed. I'm hydrated. You're birthed. I'm birthed. I don't know what that means. You had a birthday.
Andrew Oh, yeah, I did.
Everett Yesterday was my birthday.
Andrew Since we last spoke. All of y'all out there, we have had Thanksgiving and Everett has had a birthday. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, yesterday was my birthday. He spent the entire day out in our street in his birthday suit chanting, it's my birthday. It's my birthday. It was really, really troubling.
Everett Especially for a police officer and officer of the law. You have to make decisions.
Andrew Not my shift, not my problem.
Everett No, it was good. Birthday was good. We did a dinner at Red Robin. No, I'm not going to defend Red Robin.
Andrew Bottomless fries is a hard thing to not defend, though.
Everett But with five people, including three teenagers or tweens. Tweenagers. Tweenagers. Yeah. It's really, really... A good place to be. They're like used to that age. They're cool. Everything's bottomless.
Andrew And nothing is bad at Red Robin. Exactly nothing is bad. The service is always just on the south edge of mediocre. Young people. They're young people. But nothing is ever bad.
Everett Yeah. I like the burgers. I'm a Whiskey River guy. Yep. Gotta go Whiskey River. Sometimes I go Bacon Blue. Bacon Blitz is good too. I like the Whiskey River. Southern Charm also seems like it's going to be as good as the Whiskey River, but it's not. So I'm a tried and true Whiskey River guy. I do like bottomless fries. Yeah. Oh, you know what? I had a Sam Adams Winter. This is sort of a other thing. A Sam Adams Winter Ale. And... Andrew, it was delightful.
Andrew I was once in a place in my life where I would shit on big, small brands like Sam Adams or Widmer. I'm not there anymore. A beer is good, a beer is good. Right now I'm drinking a Michelob Ultra. You know why? Because it's light, it's refreshing, and it's tasty.
Everett Yeah, no, I'm not at all. Although I'll drink something local if I can. Red Robin, that's not an option. They have a Sam Adams seasonal. I'm sure they have Boneyard. I don't know that they did. Either way, I probably wouldn't have ordered that. So I got the, yeah, the winter lager. They had just taken off the Oktoberfest and just put on the winter lager. Oh, what good timing, too. And so it was just really, it was really delightful. It was sort of... um like uh belgiany excuse me you got that kind of funky sweetness but then it was topped with like a sort of winter spice essence almost and i don't know if that was like actual winter spices that they added to the brew or whatever but man i'll tell you Really, really delightful beer. But yeah. No, other than that, I'm doing really well, Andrew. The holiday was good. Turkey turned out just as good as it possibly could have. It's certainly the best turkey I've ever cooked. Well done.
Andrew How about you? I'm good. I also had a good Thanksgiving. We kept it low key. My in-laws came down and we hosted them, which was lovely because we didn't have to drive 100 miles each way and fight through traffic. We made them do it. It also meant that when the kids needed to go to bed, they did so, and we weren't still in the car. It was magical. My turkey turned out not quite how I wanted it. I wanted the skin to get a little bit crisper. But I had to pivot. In my five-day brine, it didn't fully defrost. So I had to pivot my plan a little bit. I put it in an hour and a half before I intended to at a little bit higher temperature, like 25 degrees higher, but a little bit higher. And I just watched the temps, and it course-corrected, and everything cooked nicely, and the brine really shined through, nothing dried out. Skin was okay. Yeah. It was okay freshly carved, and then it sogged.
Everett Yeah. That's to be expected.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett That's to be expected. Well, I'll tell you, so I did, we talked a little bit about it last week. We talked about, you know... You've got the two, there's the two phases, right? One was a hot sort of browning phase. And then a second was like a 350 just in the oven up to temp phase. And I had talked about maybe doing that second phase on my Kamado. And I did that, Andrew. You know, a Kamado's a lot, not a lot. It's significantly more complicated than an oven, right? An oven, you just put it to 350 and you set it. So you got to get its temperature, then you got to kind of keep it at temperature. And then you add your bird and you've got to sort of adjust it. Play with it a little bit with all that new. But I got it in and I was basically between like 348 and 355 for the entire hour and a half, two hours, whatever it was. And it was just enough smoke that you could taste it in the breast. But it wasn't overwhelming. I didn't go heavy on the wood chips or on the wood chunks. So, I mean, really just delightful. And I would recommend that. I think if you have the option to do that, specifically the method I did, I'm not going to recommend anything else because I don't know any other method. But specifically that method where you just swap out that hour and a half to two hours oven portion. Gosh, if you have something like a Kamado or something where you can get to 350 and just sort of leave it be with a little bit of smoke, man, I really do think that everybody who tasted it was like, whoa, that's really delightful. But it was still an oven turkey, right? It still felt like an oven turkey. It didn't feel weird. It didn't feel different. It felt traditional with just a touch of smoke.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett Which was nice.
Unknown Mm-hmm.
Everett Well, we're not here to talk about turkeys. We could, though. We could probably do a full episode. Yeah, we probably could. We probably could, but we're not going to. Rather... We shan't. We shan't. Rather, we're going to talk about watches, because that is what we do. We talk about watches. And, Andrew, if you would be so kind... I am going to start.
Andrew I'm wondering if you could take us away. I'm going to start us with a fun and stupid thing that... is the new Moonswatch. It begins fun and stupid because it's always fun. And stupid is the Moonswatch mission to Earth Phase Moonshine Gold. It is the longest named watch that ever has been. And it's a lovely watch. It's a white case, white dial, moonshine gold.
Everett They inverted the cases, right? Instead of a blue case, it's a white case with blue details.
Andrew Moon phase on it, earth phase on it. The moon phase includes a snowflake. Can I... May I? I want to do it. It has a moonshine gold snowflake on its moon phase. And here's the silly part. So fun. It's a moon swatch. All moon swatch releases are fun. Dumb. How long the name is. Silly part. It is only going to be commercially or retail available on days where it is snowing in Switzerland from December 5th through March 20th.
Everett Yeah, so it's available on December 4th.
Andrew Theoretically, if it's snowing in Switzerland. I think December 4th you can just get it. Yeah, it's one day availability and then all subsequent days. Only if it's snowing in Switzerland.
Everett Not a ton of details about how they're going to do that at this point. Although it does seem like that's sort of like a morning decision. The way the marketing materials made it sound, it's like you'll be able to understand in the morning if you can get to watch that day. I don't think it's like a real time, like middle of checkout.
Andrew They're like, oh, stop snowing. Yeah, it's like a school day closure. They're going to make their determination. the last possible second, and then it's it for the day. So even if it doesn't snow, your kids are still not in school.
Everett Yeah. The other thing I really liked about it, and you said you were going to, but then you didn't, is that each of the, so they each have a gold snowflake on them, a moonshine gold snowflake, and they're all unique. They're generated, unique snowflakes. So each one of these is... One of a kind-ish. One of a kind-ish, yeah. You know, I hear people, like, I think about a year ago, maybe a little bit more than that, it became pretty, like, cool to hate on the moon swatches. Like, it's like, oh, it's another moon swatch. Marketing, awesome. There's 250 skews of them by now. Oh, it's a cash grab? Yeah. No shit. It's a cash grab. I'm all about it. I think it's cool. I love this. I think it's fun. I think it's whimsical. I dig it. It is a fun, silly release. I wish they could have found a way to not name it eight words. Yeah. Sure. Just like the Moon Swatch Snowy Snoopy or something. The Moon Swatch Snow Flake. We Snoopy. I mean, this is... It's a mouthful of a name. It is. It is. It's a really fun release, though. But the rest of it's fun. I really like it. I would wear this. Yeah. I really do think that it's in the spirit of Swatch, too. I like that there are these one-offs. I like it. I'm bad about it. I wish it was...
Andrew a different Snoopy on every dial too. Like just a slightly, if they're gonna, I think it'd just be fun to add a little bit more oneness to it. Like I don't think it would have been any harder to just move his scarf up a little bit. Or have some snowflakes falling on him.
Everett Let's pick a watch that is a piece unique, although not quite individual, or I guess that is individual. Boulevard, Super Seville or Super Sevilla. I think it's Seville. Or Sevely. IFL watches. times boulevard super seville pvd gold case homage to the van go starry night specifically the sky portions of starry night and not the village below the sky um Gosh, you know what? We've talked about the Super Seville here once or twice.
Andrew I think they've all been IFL watches. Is that right? I think so. Because Super Seville is a fun, I think it's one of my favorite boulevard offerings. But it's also just like not, it doesn't quite slap for me.
Everett Yeah. Well, I think it maybe does for me. And the reason for that is, is just, well, at first it looks terrific, right? TV dial, great bezel, uh, perfect size. It's 37 and a half by 10 and a half. Uh, and then of course, um, a 262 kilohertz movement, right? The NF 10 Accutron or precision as movement is just terrific. Uh, This is really cool. These are all hand-painted. They're $1,290 available on the IFL Watches website. And they just have these beautiful dolls. There is a... I'm sure that there's more story than I know here, but they have a painting of a boy... on a building sitting next or on a rooftop on a peaked roof, sitting next to a cat, uh, looking at the starry night, which is perhaps more romantic than Van Gogh sitting in an asylum. Uh, or is it? I don't know. I don't know. There's something there. Yeah, I like these. And gold IP coding, I think I said PVD. This is a gold IP coding on this. I mean, it's a super Seville. And these are just really, really cool. And they're beautiful. They really are.
Andrew And this is a fun take on Starry Night. It's a little bit warmer. It's almost like twilight Starry Night before it gets real dark and deep or perhaps even like sunrise-y. But it's like a very whimsical take on it and really lovely.
Everett And, you know, Starry Night feels to me very dark middle of the night, but supposedly it's morning light. He's painting the morning light outside of his asylum.
Andrew Yeah, when you're in an asylum, the morning light is not dissimilar from the dark of night. Because it's dark.
Everett But these are, you know, I think there are 100 of these. Oh, excuse me. There are 300 of these, and they're all hand-painted, right? That is really the nifty thing about an IFL. is that someone touched these with a paintbrush. A bunch of times. A bunch of times. And that's really special in watches. You might not like the artwork. You might even not like having a painting on your dial, but there are very few options to get a mass-produced watch released by the mass producer that is truly unique.
Andrew I wonder...
Everett It's not like a, you know, like a mod or something, I guess is what I mean.
Andrew It almost looks like these are painted after the markers are applied.
Everett I do believe that they paint these with markers in place.
Andrew It looks like they might even do it with the chapter ring in place. Because in this photo, you can see a couple where it smudges up onto just that little bit of a bevel on the chapter ring between the 11 and 12.
Everett Which photo are you looking at, the main photo?
Andrew The main photo with the guy's clutches around it.
Everett Yeah, it's a great, it's a really cool, it's a really cool release.
Andrew Precisionist movement, precisionist painting. Next up for me, Serica has done something really cool. I'll believe it when I see it. I'd really like to see one of these in person. So Serica up to this point has had a couple different... Did you not see this in person? I didn't see this bracelet in person. That's why I was making a joke, I believe, when I see it. I didn't see it in fucking person somehow. Keep going. So, Serica's... Bonclip is off the chain. One of your favorites. It is one of my all-time favorite bracelets I've ever tried on. The Vesper mesh, similarly fantastic and second only to the Bonclip. And they've done some wild love child. in their new Expedition bracelet. And this is like a bonclip interior with a mesh exterior, single piece, wild looking bracelet. It is compatible with their other watches and it is phenomenal. This is a wild looking bracelet. And I love it on their design watches. I don't think it looked good on anything. Well, it might look good on everything else, but this thing is super cool. From the review that I have read of it, it seems like it might behave a little bit like a Mankey strap in that you got to sort of learn how to use it. And then once you do, you never really have a reason to ever go back. Gyoshen links. It's good.
Everett Yeah, so Jerome, when I was talking to Jerome in New York, we were just talking and he was like, oh, do you want to see something cool? And he just got that look. I don't know if you saw that. I didn't ever get to their table. He gets this look in his eyes and he's like, you want to see something cool? And I was like, yes, Jerome. Like Mike France in his trench coat? Yes. Peak inside. And he whipped this out and it is, you know, it's so... Andrew, I think you and I both, when we first saw Serica's bracelet options, we both had the same reaction. I remember even talking about it off microphone. We were like, it's just weird. I'm sure it's cool, but it's weird. That is so true with this. It is weird. And he pulls it out and I'm like, oh my God, that is absolutely perfect. The guilloche on the end link is, I mean, you'll see pictures of this. You're going to see pictures of this. And you just cannot. understand without having this in your hand how great it looks it is phenomenal it is phenomenal uh this bracelet is weird it is magically comfortable um the setting system is really interesting i just think that this is one of the coolest weirdest things in boutique watches Maybe just in watches, right?
Andrew It so perfectly matches the rest of their design language. It's just like a little bit modern without sacrificing any of its vintage-inspired feel.
Everett And you know what, Andrew? It's like... it's like with the Giosha links, it's like 300 bucks. Yeah. 400 bucks, something like that. I mean, which is not nothing, right? Let's not, let's not pretend like this is a, an impulse buy or a drop in the bucket. But in a world in which a basic bitch Omega bracelet is going to run you a thousand bucks. Yeah. Or more, right? A Doxa rubber strap, $400. Yeah, right? In that world, you know, it really puts a point on what Serica's doing and how cool and interesting they're making watches, right? They're making cool... interesting, delightfully quirky watches in a way that not many other brands. I'm going to make a wild claim right now. Okay. I'm going to make a wild claim right now. Serica and RZE are thinking about watches. Right now, they're my two favorite brands in terms of how they're thinking about watches because they have not accepted... that watches need to be any one thing and there's a few other brands that we could fit in there and and and certainly i would listen to your pitches but for me these are the two brands that stand out for me as sort of and it's not even with a middle finger it's with a huge friendly smile on their face as they come in and they're like look at this fucking weird shit
Andrew Yeah, they're like fully embracing their design language and refusing to be pigeonholed by stuff.
Everett And they're doing it in a very accessible way. They're doing it in an unpretentious way. You know, Jerome is like this really like put together hunting magazine, dickhead looking fellow.
Andrew Yeah, he could be on the cover of Burberry.
Everett And then you meet him and you're just like, I love this guy. He is so kind and just loves what he does and loves watches and loves people. No pretension. I mean, and maybe, you know, I don't know him that well. He's just so approachable. I did, and it was great. So for me, I'm just going to say, I think RZE and Serica, the reason I bring up RZE is, I mean, obviously because of the UTD, but they've done something I think that's similar in very different ways, which is maybe the point.
Andrew They're fully leaning into what they want to be doing in the space, and they're not being limited by what everyone else is doing, and they're not being weird about it. Yeah. Yeah, this is a cool release.
Everett Andrew, I don't know if you remember me talking about the Tito... Tits on me? Tits on me Seascoper 600.
Andrew I do remember it, and I remember it so vividly that I actually didn't pick this watch because I thought this was the same watch.
Everett So it is the same watch. So when we talked about the Seascoper 600, I said, you know, I think this watch is great. But this fucking font on the bezel is a no for me. I would never wear this. I just don't like this font. I don't want it. Well... Detonia's fixed the font. They released the new Seascoper 600 Cosquatch, which is a big old helium-released valve, super 600-meter, go-to-the-bottom-of-the-ocean dive watch that I really probably wouldn't wear anyway because it's huge and big. It's 14 1⁄2. But it's only 42. It is all of a sudden, they've all of a sudden taken this watch that was really cool on paper, but it had a fatal flaw, and they fixed the fatal flaw. They basically changed nothing besides the stupid-ass font on the bezel. They've replaced it with something not good. But also not bad. This is the platonic neutral of bezel fonts, I'm going to say. It is perfectly unobjectionable. And I think this watch is really, really good now.
Andrew It is. And it's it's twenty two hundred Swiss francs for a like. Respect to the nines dive watch.
Everett Yes.
Andrew In-house caliber. In-house cost caliber movement. The size on it is competitive with other watches offering you 600 meters of water resistance, 42 millimeter case, 14 and a half thick, 52 lug to lug. It's a big old bitch, but that's what it's meant to be, right? This isn't masquerading as a spec'd out 36, 38 millimeter dive watch. This is a big ass dive watch, tool-less micro adjust. I don't, I mean, I'm curious how that works. Micro adjust works. It's a push button right in the middle of the class. It seems like if you're desk diving, you might... be actuating that with with some kind of regularity you know i don't know we we did run into that with notice and the nodex in fact my prototype nodex did actuate but i don't know i don't know uh it seems like a not i don't think it i don't know if it's any less secure than press buttons on the side of a of a clasp but it seems like a single push in the middle of the clasp uh has its potentials for failure. Or maybe accidental discharge. But the rest of it, this is baller, right? This is... I think this competes with the Black Bay every day of the week.
Everett Sure. Or Ocean King or the Hydro Conquest or whatever. There's a handful of watches in this. Take your pick. Yeah. Or even the Oris. Yeah. What do we call that one?
Andrew Diver. Yes. Yeah. And it's exactly what you think it looks like, given all the references that we've just provided, if you're not familiar with this watch. But at the price point, at the spec sheet, this is good. Plus it says tits on me right at the 12 o'clock.
Everett And it's a big watch, right? No doubt about it. This is a bigger, more robust watch. And so you do have the C-scope with the 300, which doesn't have a font on the bezel because it doesn't have any Arabic numerals on the bezel. And so it was always acceptable to me. That's a more manageably sized watch than this.
Andrew But it's not a 600 meter COSC certified true diver.
Everett It is... It is a COSC certified watch. Is it 300 COSC? I think so. I think I can answer that question pretty quickly. Yes, it is. Oh, I thought it wasn't. No, it is. And it's also a caliber T10, I believe. Oh, no. Excuse me. It's a silly to 200-1. Excuse me. But it is still COSC. So slightly less cool watch. Slightly more acceptable price at, I think, like $1,700 for that guy. More sort of digestible dimensions, at least the Z dimension, I think, is just sub-13 on that guy. So there are options. I mean, when you're wearing a big 42-millimeter dive watch, that's what you want. Yeah, 14.5 is not going to hurt you. This is 14.5, isn't it? 300T. I think it's in that range, yeah. It's in that range. And you're right, Andrew, it works. The ceramic bezel, I mean, it's just, it is a really stunning watch. It's, there are lots of ways to criticize this watch. I'm not going to do them.
Andrew I guess this is 13.6.
Everett Okay. Yeah, I mean, I think that the 600 C-Scopert, the C-Scopert 600 is probably... Pretty thick. You're going to need to really fall in love with this watch. I'm for it.
Andrew Me too. This is the one you get when you're wanting the thick. Or among them. It's certainly put itself into the field. You're like, fill me up, daddy. I was rendered speechless. Like, I just wanted to get something back out, and I couldn't. I was filled up. You were like, mm-hmm. A little warm in here. Simeon. We've seen some Semi-A releases here recently. A brand that kind of went away during the quartz crisis and has re-emerged, playing pretty strong. We have the new 47 Degrees North Collection, which is a fun colored field watch named after... Oh, they are based in Biel and Bien. It's Biel slash Bien. So I don't know if it's two places or if it's... I don't really know how Europe names places. But it's on the 47 degrees north latitude line. Which is, so that's why it's called the 47 degrees north. That's where we grew up, on the 47th parallel. Yeah, we did grow up on the 47th parallel. Every time we drive up, we pass the sign that says 45th parallel, halfway between the North Pole and the equator. And this is just a lovely, kind of no frills, field watch. 38 millimeter case, 11.25 thick, 46 lug to lug, at a 28-24 movement, 850 Swiss francs, and it comes in some really good colors, some not so good colors. Comes with a white kinda, kinda guilty because of the Fotina, a black with some Fotina, the gray is what has me. Blue is lovely.
Everett And then kind of a... Avocado? Avocado. But not like... But like inside of an avocado. Yeah, inside of a... Underripe avocado.
Andrew But near to the skin. You get a little bit of ombre. It darkens out as you get to the edge of the dial. And I find myself liking that one the most. Oh, interesting. I don't know why, because I kind of hate it. But also I love it with the orange accents, the kind of yellow Fotina. It just, it, everything works really well on it. It's on a green suede strap. It, it does it for me. And the gray really does it for me, even on that kind of pebble gray suede strap. I'd rather that on like brown leather, but yeah, just a really good colorful field watch. addition to the virtually unlimited supply of watches. 100 meters of water resistance, sapphire, screw-down crown, all the things. $1,000 field watch, this is kind of all the things you want.
Unknown Yeah.
Andrew And I've rendered you speechless. I'm trying to think of something to say about it. It's perfectly boring and lovely. And I love that there's another offering in this space. And I like Samir's watches. Samir's? Kimir. No, Kimira. Like from the original Mr. Impossible.
Everett Raymond Weil. Ooh. Raymond Weil, our shopping mall brand du jour. You know, 2025 and 2024 and into 2025, Raymond Weil was not a brand that I had on my multiple bangers bingo card. And it certainly... wasn't a brand that I had on my Seconde Seconde collab bingo card. And yet, and yet, we recently talked about the Raymond Weil Takata Heritage just a few weeks ago even. And now we've got a Seconde Seconde collaboration in a perfectly weird way. Watch. I don't like this watch. Let me back up. I like the watch. I don't like the collaboration because it seems douchey. But then when I come back to it, I'm like, oh, no. They want it to be douchey? And that makes me like it? Okay. So, Seconde Seconde Absurd Collaborations. This one is a... Cuff sweet spot measuring device. It's a complication I believe we've never talked about on this show. Which is to say it's got markings on the dial that indicate where your cuff should hit in relation to the watch. Now... When I say it sounds douchey, that's what I mean. Except that this is obviously entirely tongue-in-cheek. So, the dial is split into, we've got a dark matte half. And then we've got a still dark but lighter sunburst half. On the matte half, we have a dress shirt cuff should cover at least half of the watch with an arrow pointing to the pinion. And then as we come down the six o'clock side, written, Andrew's turning his phone.
Andrew Well, yeah, I'm turning it to read them.
Everett We've got an indication for cuff sweep spots. And then about 10% in, we've got business casual.
Andrew Biz casual.
Everett Not business. Biz casual. And then a little further in, we have semi-formal. And then a little further in, we've got formal. So the more... When you keep saying in, it's actually out. Out at that point. No, you're not wrong.
Andrew It's exposing more and more of the watch.
Everett Listen, just take a look. It's so dumb. It's so fun, too. And it's so fun. And then on the back, and this is written in a very serious, no-nonsense, sans-serif font, all lowercase, by the way. And then when you get to the back, there's a... There's another indication. So first, we've got a skeletonized view of a gear. And then it says, never wind your watch while wearing it. Take it off first, then wind it in a dramatic fashion, ideally in the middle of a conversation. And it's called... And that goes for quartz watches as well. The dress watch code.
Andrew Golly, Raymond Weil. I'm winding my watch right now.
Everett Who'd have thunk it?
Andrew This is so, this is, today we're talking about like fun, kind of like middle fingers without being a middle finger watches.
Everett I did wind my Speedmaster in the middle of a client interview today. Because you didn't when you put it on in the morning? That's exactly right. And then I took it off and I wound it and I put it back on and I was like, I shouldn't do that. I didn't say that out loud. I said that in my head quietly, I believe. Silently, I think.
Andrew This watch is all of that and a bag of chips in the way of just like a fun middle finger because it's subtle. The design on the dial could easily be any number of... And it almost looks like this is... Oh, it absolutely is. It's printed on the crystal. So it's printed on the crystal above the dial. Yeah. So you get... It casts a shadow into your dial, which is... Oh, yeah.
Everett And did we mention that this is a... Oval dial, vertical oval dial that's 33 by 38 by less than seven thick on the Z dimension with a manual hand-wide movement. This is actually a badass fucking watch.
Andrew It's an SW210 base. They do some in-house to it. So it's the RW4100. It should be the 4500 because it's a 45-hour power reserve. But, you know, who am I to name things?
Everett It's a really cool watch. It's a cool collaboration. It's like, okay, Raven, wow, I see you. Do not let me down. Welcome to the party. Now prove that you belong here. Don't let me down. Let's do this. You said we're going to do it. Let's do it. Agreed. Take your pants off, Ray.
Andrew Yeah. This is only about shirts. You don't need pants. All right. What's that? There's nothing about short sleeves in here, though. Got to work on that. uh clements tom photic mk2 divers so we somehow didn't talk about these uh even though we had them in our hands and we talked to tom we'll have to have tom on and talk about the new mk2s uh we'll start with the the beans here nuts and the bolts um 39 millimeter case. 46 lug to lug. 10.5 thick with the domed sapphire crystal. So it's 9.9 thick without its box sapphire. Miyota 9039 movement. 200 meters of water resistance. And right now, pre-order with a strap. 529 pounds. 599 with a bracelet. And they're only going to go up to 650 pounds retail. on a bracelet, and look at these, look at this fully articulating, lay flat, lovely bracelet. This is money. And they come in very, very Clements colors. You see these color patterns and this design with the Arabic numerals of the 12 and six, and just box markers at the rest of your markers, and you know exactly the brand of watch that you're looking at. His colors are so true to his design language. This is just lovely.
Everett Lovely. I have nothing bad to say about it.
Andrew Great big crown on it. A really affordable, well-designed, well-thought-out... Sapphire bezel? I forgot to look at that. Sapphire, yep. Looks like a sapphire. Yeah, just...
Everett 904L steel on the bezel with a sapphire insert and then 316 on the mid case yep this is money yeah you know and they're 700 bucks I mean every once in a while I look at a watch go through the specs and look at the pictures and I'm like you know if it's like they were kind of in my head right in terms of what i would want in a watch right like they prioritize the same things as me tom i think prioritizes a lot of the same things as i do with his watch design um you know i'm i probably wouldn't design the same exact watch because you're not as handsome as he is but i would make similar decisions in terms of dimension in terms you know the the articulation on that bracelet is just it's so good terrific um you know and the priority on thinness and this is what you what you what you really need if not what you want in terms of I mean, this is a beautiful sort of delicate dress diver that is completely specced.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett There is no compromise on spec here. You know, if you got this watch prior to like a two-year... desert island voyage, it would run the whole time perfectly without issue and be perfect. Right? I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is there's no compromise on capability. This is a perfectly capable watch. You could do anything in this watch.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett No sacrifice. not even a little bit and yet it's gorgeous and and affordable dressy and affordable right yeah like why do you need a zen whatever or you know like this is it this is it you don't need a c scope or 600. you can get this and it'll be exactly it'll be exactly as capable unless you get to 300 meters and your head just goes That was my implosion noise. I don't know what noise an implosion makes, but I think it's like that.
Andrew Did you ever listen to the Titan implosion? I have not.
Everett Really? I will not.
Andrew Oh, I listen to it a lot. I won't. Especially when they first heard it, I listened to it and it was released. And then, yeah.
Everett You know, Andrew, we came up in... The age of the internet where you could very easily click on a thing and have regret. Yeah. That doesn't happen all that often anymore. What was that site? Uh, there's a bombs world. There was, there was one that was like just gnarly stuff. Yeah. What was it called? Um, it'll come to one of us here. Um, you, you know, and, and then earlier this year when Charlie Kirk got shot, the video that morning, the video was circulating and someone said, Oh gosh, have you seen the video? And I looked at it and I was like, you know what? Rotten. Yeah, it was like, I just don't need it. So things like that, I mean, it's a sound, it's audio, but I don't know what it's going to be and I don't need to hear. I just don't need to. I'm not going to do it. I won't do it. It's a philosophical thing going on there. I listened to it. I was intrigued. Yeah, no, that's totally fair and there's no criticism here.
Andrew Because you don't see it. I don't like seeing people get killed. Here it's totally different.
Everett Heinrich, German company that I believe we've talked about, but I can't. I was trying to think about this. I couldn't remember. I kind of went through the catalog. I'm not sure what watch we've talked about. They make... Really good looking watches. They do. In the way that German companies do, which is to say just really, really tight. Want to see how perfect I can engineer this? Well put together. Beautiful, beautiful watches. This is a watch that they're calling the Radiance Giosh. The Radiance is that it has 20,000 beveled edges. That's crazy. Is that true? It has to. Oh, I thought you were reading a spec somewhere.
Andrew No, look at the, every marker is guilloche. There's guilloche in the, every single part of the dial on the end link.
Everett And now in fairness, these are, this is all CNC guilloche. So if this was a rose engine guilloche, this would be a... Much, much, much more expensive watch. 100,000 bucks. But this is a 38 and a half millimeter dress. I'm going to call this a dress sport watch. This feels very much like a Seamaster. And I don't mean a modern Seamaster. I mean a traditional Seamaster to me. I accept your... Eight millimeters tall because it's got an ETA 7001. It is, they have this in a red and a blue. CNC GeoStyles. And, geez louise. I have a hard time finding something to criticize objectively here. Give me a white, give me a black. I don't just want red and blue. There we go. Andrew did it. Everything else is flawless. 100 pieces? 100 pieces total, I believe. So 50 red, 50 blue. There are $1,120 that you will need to spend if you want to get one of these. Do we want to count? How many links would you call this bracelet? Is this like a 10 link? Two, four, six, eight, nine link? A nine link? nine i think yeah oh no no because it's double that it's kind of beads of ricey one two three four five six seven eight nine ten it's kind of like a flat gap beads of rice it's a 15 link flat beads of rice brace yeah you've seen this bracelet before i i mean we've seen it before um end link there it is there it is that yeah take note everyone the end link not good everything else about this watch i like Yeah. Yeah. Bombay lugs and link fitment and link itself and link fitment. Not good in my mind. The that bevel on the on the lugs, though, it's it's like supple.
Andrew Like I just want to like. Sure.
Everett Golem it in the in the cave. Sure. Sure. I love it. And they're affordable and they're cool. And it's great dimensions on this. Great dimensions. Eight millimeter on this.
Andrew Yeah, that's. You don't see the 7001 very often. That's a good execution of it.
Everett Small seconds. It's got a display case back that shows the 7001, which is not an attractive movement. It's super German engineering attractive, though, right? But they've done a really good job with this. It's got some Geneva striping on it. I think that they've done a really good job with this. With this movement specifically. I think you can skip the exhibition case back. You could have, but you might as well, especially at under eight millimeters.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett What's next, sir? Ooh.
Andrew Oh. Vempe. Vemp? Wempe?
Everett So I looked this up. Do it. It is in English, Wempe, or in German, Wempe. Wempe. Okay, so we have the new... But they are, I believe are pronounced, the family, so this is a family-owned business, the family is pronunciation agnostic. They say it's either Wempe in American or Wempe in German, and I'm mispronouncing that, obviously, but something like that.
Andrew Just buy our watches. So we had occasion to see a bucket load of these watches in person when we were at Wind Up at one of the boutiques that we went into. Sure did. They had to have had their entire catalog there in every form, color, and fashion. This was not a watch that I remember seeing. It is the Iron Walker Diver Bronze. So the Iron Walker is a line of watches that has come in a... a GMT chronograph, and a diver, and they have now introduced it in a bronze case. This is a twin-stick, internal rotating bezel, well-specced dive watch. Dimensions on it are, hang on here. Hang on, hang on. Hang on. I'm almost there. 42 millimeter case, 48 lug to lug, 12 thick, Sellita SW200 movement, 300 meters of water resistance, 100 piece limited edition run on this, and I'm really smitten with the... color combination on this. The bronze case is really fantastic. Your two o'clock bezel or your two o'clock crown manipulates your bezel and has a rubberized marker in the middle of the crown to indicate which crown you're manipulating. Both are screw down. Your internal rotating bezel though only rotates counterclockwise like any other dive bezel but by manipulation of the crown uh and it's really good and then it kind of bugs me that it's five thousand bucks because i don't i don't i don't really see where it's happening the case uh profile is phenomenal i bet this thing wears like a dream yeah no i'm with you so
Everett Did you understand that the bezel is rubber coated? Mm-hmm.
Andrew I don't really under, so I like. I don't know if it's like meant to be a bumper, like to protect the bronze because it's like meant to patina.
Everett Well, that's what they say, but then the rubber's gonna, I mean, you're gonna scrape the rubber.
Andrew tear and I think objectively bronze though has been used in diving applications there's just better materials to be using I'm confused by it but I also really love it and as somebody who doesn't get in the water unless pushed or fall this is the kind of dive watch that I can get I'd fuck with
Everett You know, Vempi is a retailer primarily. I think that the majority of their money is made on selling watches that are made by other companies, big brands. And so this is their house brand. I think this is a pretty ambitious watch for a house brand in terms of materials and design.
Andrew And they're doing a super limited run. There's 100 pieces of this. That's right. But it's a Salida 200. It's a Kosk Salida 200. But for 5,000 bucks, I don't see it. It's a Salida 200.
Everett Um, yeah, it's, it's a lot. That's a lot of money for a Salida 200. You know, if this is a, if this is a 1500 or a $2,000 watch, it's a dunk. Yeah. And maybe with bronze, we get up to a little bit more than that. But at five grand, I mean, you're competing with big, big, big brands, serious watchmaking chops. Yeah. Even at two grand, you're competing with stuff that I think edges this out in a race. I think so, yeah. I mean, like you said, it's super limited. Someone's going to buy these, but yeah. This watch caught my eye too. We both picked this watch. And I got to the bottom and I was like...
Andrew for me at least. I had exactly the same reaction because all down through the line, through the photos, through the spec sheet, I'm like, okay, you have my attention. And then I got to the bottom and was like, yeah, pass.
Everett Ikepod has re-released the HemiPod. Ooh, they have. And I think they've done a couple things. So the HemiPod is Ikepod's... I may be saying both of those wrong, by the way. I think it's Ikepod. Sort of a 1990s iconic watch really puts Ike Pod on the map in some ways. This is a 7750 chronograph. And they fixed a couple things. This is a very true to the original re-release, which is to say it looks top-down, almost identical, which is to say it's a pebble, no lugs, hidden, totally recessed lugs, very, very simple pushers, just sort of stick pushers, I think is what I'm going to call those. classic ike pod styling uh but they fixed two things one there was an e at the end of hemi pod when they first released this so like hemi pod or poda uh they got rid of that e that's big i think that's yeah that was the right choice that was the right choice The second thing they did is – so this is a monoblock case, monocoque case, which is to say only serviced through – it's only serviced through the dial. But on the original, the – stem release was completely covered by the monocot case so in order to service this watch you had to break the crown or at least the stem uh no longer they've given you access even through the monoclock monocock case to release the stem so well done in one of these photos the the crystals misaligned the crystal is misaligned yeah look at this this is a this is a top-down photo and the crystals rotated like oh i think five degrees i think that's angle you think i do yeah so there is a marking on the crystal it's kind of a ghosty because this is the same that's the same watch And it's lined up there.
Andrew Yeah, but is it set the same? No, it's set differently.
Everett I think you're just looking at angle, Andrew.
Andrew But look at the hands. The hands are in different places. Yeah, but the crystal wouldn't move. I don't fucking know. I'm not a doctor.
Everett I'm just an observer. Day-date, $77.50. I do notice... They're not cheap.
Andrew Go ahead. I do notice that there are no profile photos of this watch on somebody's wrist.
Everett It's got a weird sort of dip. It is definitely... You're going to need to have... It's an upside-down pyramid. Radius on a gap. Big old free gap. Yeah, for this to fit. And if you don't, it might not fit well. But I think for someone that's got sort of a... anatomically average radius on the dip in their wrist. This is going to wear fine. It's a big watch though, right? It's a 44 by 18 thick.
Unknown Yeah.
Everett It's made out of titanium. I think when they first released these, they were in titanium and steel. Now they just are coming out in grade two titanium. 6,500 bucks, right? It's not cheap or 6,900, but fully Swiss made. And it's sort of like, if you want the iconic Ike pod, Hemi pod, here you go. This is a silly watch.
Andrew I like it though. I like the silver, the, the blue tri-compact isn't, I'm not a big fan of. the silver I am as, as goofy as it is. Yeah.
Everett I mean, it is a, I think it's, you kind of got to be into like what you're doing, right? This is an iconic watch. And so I think, I think you kind of have to be into like, I'm going to get this iconic watch. Andrew, what's next? And have a bunch of money. Or are we done? Is it that time that we talk about other things?
Andrew I'm fine with being done here.
Everett Andrew, other things, what do you got?
Andrew So my 10-year-old has... We have like a beginner's... like a hundred dollar tabletop telescope. And over the last several months has, so my 10 year old has expressed a great interest in nightly checking cloud cover to go and examine the stars with this telescope. Um, some nights we really get a really good view of the moon. Um, But one of the things that I, because I'm not an astronomy person, I love looking at the stars and I love space shit, but I don't know anything about it. Same. Yeah, I don't know. I can find the Big Dipper when it's visible. I'm not super sold on the idea that the North star never moves because the big dipper is not always where I expect it to be. So I'm sure I'm wrong about that, but I don't understand how it works because just objectively it has to move because we're moving. Right. Uh, i don't get it um but i wanted to be able to help facilitate stuff right even with this very beginner telescope so i got this app by a company called fifth star labs and it's called sky guide i'll send you a link i didn't do that yet It is a super intuitive app. It works immediately with the gyroscope in your phone. So you open it up and if your phone's in your lap, it's going to show you the star chart on the opposite side of the earth. wherever you're facing it. So what I have found myself doing is I am aligning this telescope with my phone, like the camera sitting right in the middle of the lens and aligning it. I'm like, okay, that's Saturn. That's what you're looking at. You don't have a good view of it, right? Because we don't have the Hubble here. But that's why you're looking at a planet. You're not looking at a star. And here, if we can adjust this a little bit, this is this constellation. And there's all kinds of settings that you can add to it that show stuff that I don't fully understand. It's more advanced than I am. I'm going to have to grow into the application of this app. But for example, right now, right behind Everett's face is something called Altair. I don't know what that is. It's not a brain. It's the 13th brightest star in the sky and the alpha star of the Aquila Eagle. Aquila Eagle? Southern anchor of the famed Summer Triangle. But it's...
Everett It's terrific.
Andrew It's great. It works with your compass, so it shows you what you're looking at, where you're looking at, directionally.
Everett Did you have to pay for this?
Andrew No, it was a free app. And it shows, I can't show you, but if you can find a constellation, it fills out the constellation, like mythology shape around the stars.
Everett Cool.
Andrew It's lovely. I love it.
Everett Well, I should have gone first because that's more interesting than my other thing. Agreed.
Andrew But I always go first. Do you have another thing?
Everett I do have another thing. Do me. I got a new belt this year. And then because I had access, I got... Two more of them. And then I got three more of those because I liked them so much. You're wearing one? No, I am not. I took it off. The belt is Will Leathergood. So I've talked on this show before. I've lamented about how hard it is to find a good leather belt. I don't really understand it. It's super duper easy to buy really good leather shoes. Relatively easy to buy a good leather wallet. We have access to good leather goods. And yet, it seems so difficult to buy a good leather... So, I think it's because belts have such a wide array...
Andrew The application is so different from person to person. Unlike a wallet. A wallet gets folded up, put in your butt pocket, and you go on with your life. Shoes, you just put them on your feet and you wear them. The versatility of a belt is broad. You and I have super different needs for a leather belt.
Everett Perhaps. And yet we want the same things in terms of quality. Yeah. Anyway, these belts are made of full grain vegetable tan leather and they come with brass hardwares and they come with snaps and they are 80 bucks either from Will or on Huckberry, which is a lot of money, but also... They're $73 on Huckberry right now. If you were to, for instance, buy a... Let's pick on Cole Haan. If you were to buy a Cole Haan belt, it's going to run you anywhere from $30 to $60, is my guess, probably. It's going to be made of genuine leather, which is to say leather that's been chewed up and then glued together. Pult, yeah. It's going to last you between six and 18 months before it's completely trashed and not usable. And then you're going to have to go get a new one. On the other hand, if you buy a full grain vegetable tan leather belt... It's going to last you five or six or maybe 10 or more years. It's going to last three to 10 times as long, maybe 20 times as long as that shitty Kohan belt. Anyway, I found these and they are just... How stiff are they? Borderline perfect. It's veg tanned leather, so relatively stiff. when they're brand new and then it softens up in the places you want it to be soft so it keeps its rigidity and it keeps its lateral stiffness but it becomes more comfortable in the places you know everybody's body is different as you mentioned just a moment ago this will form to your body keep lateral stiffness because it's a thick piece of full grain leather And it's just great. Anyway.
Andrew I didn't mean body differences. I meant like I use my belt differently than you do.
Everett Also fair. Same difference though. Here's the thing. There's nothing special about this belt. In fact. In fact, the reason it's good is because there's nothing special about it. It is a... It's just good. Really simple. It's just so hard to find a good belt. So when I found these... And with screws, you can put your rodeo belt buckle on it. You could if you wanted. That's right. So when I found these, like I said, I went and bought two more. And then I bought three more because I fluctuate weight. And so I've got two different belt sizes. So I've got a full range of these in two different sizes, right? Because I'm like, I can't. This is all the belts I'm going to need for the next maybe 30 years of my life, 20 years of my life.
Andrew Especially if you keep fluctuating weight, they're like getting very, they're only getting half the use.
Everett Half time. So yeah, I got black, dark and light brown. And in three, in two different sizes. I mean, it's just hard to find a good belt. This is a good belt. I'm going to recommend it. We're going to put a link in the show notes. It is hard to find a good belt. If you're looking for a good leather belt, they're not dressy. they are but i can wear them i've worn them with my suit and don't feel bad about it it is not a dress belt though so that's the one thing it's more of a It's certainly with jeans, certainly with khakis. Yeah.
Andrew I wouldn't even venture into the biz cash world.
Everett I think it works, but it's... I worn these with a suit, no problem at all. So to court, and you know me, I'm thoughtful about these things. So it's not made for that, but it is good for that. It's not a like... a rugged outdoor belt, which is part of the problem when you find these, when you find full grain leather belts, they tend to be like super butch, right? Yeah. Like I don't need that. I just need a good belt.
Andrew Just give me something that hasn't been mulched. Yeah. And yeah, that's all I got, Andrew. That's a good one. I'll need to examine yours because I need a really rigid... belt that isn't gonna warp there might be better options for you in fact i would think textile for what you do no no i mean for like my like when i'm wearing jeans and stuff but i still i still am carrying a gun got it this would work for that uh i've been wearing a i've bought it several times a carhartt belt that's like good and rigid uh and then it goes to shit But they last five, six years. Oh, that's a good amount of time. Yeah, I mean, I'm on my third one. And I've been buying them since probably college.
Everett I think for jeans with a carry, this would be perfect. I wouldn't wear it as your bat belt, though.
Andrew No, no, no. I wear like a special, like something made for that. Uh, I think I might've talked, I have talked about it. It's like wilderness tactical. I think it's a, like a denier Kevlar thing, rigor belt. That's like, yeah, it's meant for repelling. Yeah. And it, it gives the rigidity that I need.
Everett Yeah. That's, that's what I was thinking. You were mentioning that, but, uh, Andrew, anything else you want to add before I go?
Andrew Uh, no, man, I'm out of things.
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