Seiko is Master of the Back Catalog (365)

Published on Tue, 28 Oct 2025 00:56:14 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of the 40 in 20 Watch Clicker podcast, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss a variety of new and interesting watch releases while enjoying some Weller 107 whiskey. They begin by reflecting on their recent experience at the WindUp watch fair in New York and Everett's decision not to purchase a watch despite setting aside money for one. The hosts review numerous new watch releases, including models from Fears, Raymond Weil, Christopher Ward, Lorier, Notice, Hanhart, Seiko, Baltic, Casio, Serica, Alpina, RZE, and a James Brand/Timex collaboration. Throughout the discussion, they offer detailed critiques of watch designs, pricing, and brand positioning. They particularly praise RZE's new 36mm Resolute as potentially "first in class" for its price point. The conversation concludes with Andrew's recommendation of an Anker PowerBank and Everett's appreciation for the rare and excellent Weller 107 whiskey they're drinking.

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Andrew	Hello, fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 in 20, the Watch Clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you?
Everett	Really good. I know, you were just bragging about it. Fantastic. I'm healthy. I'm happy. Yeah, I'm healthy and happy.
Andrew	It's all anyone can ever hope for.
Everett	I am suffering from crippling retail therapy, but it's become a way of life. Yeah. Tonight I'm going to drink whiskey and talk about watches. How about that? How about that? You know, Andrew, I... Speaking of suffering from critical retail therapy, I... Took $1,000 to wind up to buy a watch.
Andrew	And you didn't even buy a watch.
Everett	And I did not spend it. Tell me why. You know, it was just a matter of like... I just didn't find the right watch, you know? Which is to say, it wasn't like a hard limit, right? I didn't actually have cash this time.
Andrew	It was an envelope of uncounted money.
Everett	You know, but it was in that range. And I just didn't find anything that I was like, yeah, this is the one. You know, there was one watch in particular that I'm thinking of that I was like, I'm buying this watch. And then I heard the price and I was like, you know? I'm not going to buy this watch. Um, the hand heart preventer is not the watch I'm talking about right now. Almost got me. They had a hand heart preventer with the blue dial on a bracelet. And I was like, Ooh, really good. And I was kind of into it. Um, Yeah, you know, I think I can say what it is. It was that new Jacques Bianchi collab watch that they made with that Navy diver. Oh, yeah. And I just, that guy was super charming, handsome, muscular, just my type. You were talking to me at the Jacques Bianchi table. Oh yeah, that was you. And also the watch was really, but you know what? I did think, I hate to be this guy. I did think it was about $400 too expensive. And you can get away with, which is like almost a third of the price. I think you can get away with maybe 20% too expensive. But it wound up being, I think, almost like 50% too expensive. And I thought, what am I basing that on? I don't know.
Andrew	You're basing it on the fact that it was a little bit of an impulse buy.
Everett	My gut, my... Well, but impulse in the sense that I'd kind of like... I had never really heard of the watch before I saw it, but not impulse in the sense that I wasn't prepared to buy a watch.
Andrew	No, but impulse watch, like when you think back on all the watches that you've bought, you've made some impulse purchases, but they were for a great deal. Most every other watch you've ever bought was meticulously thought out. And the dollar amount just kind of evaporated, right? Like you knew what you wanted. You found the thing you wanted. And that's just what you had to spend. Yeah, that's the amount of money that you spend it on. On a watch that you're interacting with for the first time, you're just becoming familiar with for the first time, anything more than free is too much money.
Everett	Yeah, no, you might be right, Andrew. You might be right. I think had that watch been $900, $1,000, $1,050, I think I would have copped. But at whatever it was, $1,299 or $1,300, I was like, let me think about it. And by that, I mean, I don't want to buy this watch anymore. Yeah. Which is interesting for me. It was interesting for me. I don't think I'm in a period of not buying, although I am. I'm really trying to sell, and by really trying to sell, I mean I'm thinking really hard about selling. And by thinking really hard, I mean every once in a while I consider listing a watch.
Andrew	for a moment as you walk by your watch box on your way to the toilet i do wanna i do i know exactly what i want to buy and i gotta sell watches to do it i'm making myself do it this time i'm not gonna buy that watch but it's it's proving more difficult i i would have bought a watch this weekend but they didn't bring it with them i was though i was explicitly told not to uh The Marathon Navigators were really good, but they didn't have any of their resin cases because of some supply issues. Issues. But man, in the metal, they were a lot better than I expected them to be.
Everett	Yeah, I think Marathon has watches that are better than I expect them to be, and then they also have watches that are worse than I expect them to be.
Andrew	The GP was also really good. I don't, I'd never seen a GP in person before. Like that, that small GP courts.
Everett	Yeah. Yeah.
Andrew	Had you seen one before? I have. Okay. Yeah.
Everett	Somebody has one. Somebody, lots of somebody has them. Yeah. Somebody we know. Um, uh, no, uh, I agree with you. The GP courts is, is good. I do think it's too thick for what it is, but, um, I kind of like it, but like the search and rescue watches, I'm like, ew. Yeah. It's not my thing. That's not my thing.
Andrew	Yeah. But yeah, the Navigator was bueno.
Everett	Andrew, I came up with a cool bottle of whiskey this week. You already know this, but I'm going to tell you as if you don't because that's... Because we actually recorded with our eyes closed. I got a bottle of Weller 107, which is something I have been looking for, well, for as long as I've been looking for whiskey, certainly. But even before that, you know, this is a bizarrely difficult to get bottle. Anything Buffalo Trace is hard to get. And Weller is sort of the days of Weller being on the shelf, poor man's pappy, or as you say, on the shelf, are long gone. This is specifically this and perhaps the foolproof as well are the two iterations of Wellwood that I've really enjoyed. And I found a bottle. You know what? I went into my liquor store and I was walking around and my liquor store bro was like, I got something for you. And it wasn't like, oh, I've got something to show you that you might be interested in. It was like, I've got a bottle and you're buying it. He just knew. And not only that, but when they get the allocations here in Oregon, something like this, they have to send it to the stores, to the restaurants, because the restaurants are their good customers. But he was like, yeah, the owner said, that one guy who comes in every week and spends money, is he interested? So not only is my liquor store bro looking out for me, but the owner... Give it to that one fucking guy. They just had an extra bottle of 107. And so now I am the owner of a bottle of... Some of a bottle of 107. Of Weller 107. And, you know, it's funny because it's not... It's not really a special booze, right? It's not a special whiskey. It's delicious, but it's young. You know, it's just a young weeder that is really, really, really good. But I think drinking Weller 107, it feels more special than it really ought to.
Andrew	Yeah, because you can't find it.
Everett	And oh my gosh, it is good. Yeah, it is really good. Something about Buffalo Trace, man. They do it right.
Andrew	Really, really good. Andrew, how are you? I'm good. Obviously, we played our interviews last week from Wind Up, but we didn't talk a whole lot about it. Yeah, it was a pretty structured conversation. But I'm good. I got some of that jet flu. Every time I fly somewhere, I end up getting sick. I'm just on the tail end of that, so I'm finally feeling better today. And just chugging on along. So I'm good. And I'm also, I poured a little splash of this 107 and I'm just, just enjoying it. Let's have some whiskey. Enjoying it.
Everett	Talk about watches. Just that nose over here. You know, we've got a lot of watches to talk about, and we certainly won't get to all of them. I think this may be one of the few weeks that we have to deliberately come back to some of these. We had two weeks of watches to go through for today's episode. And then within that, we also had New York Watch Week. So a lot of pretty cool releases related to New York Watch Week that we maybe didn't get to last week. So there's a lot of really pretty cool stuff. This kind of week is my favorite kind of week because we do not have to talk about...
Andrew	the eight bazillionth grand seiko dial release like we just i just like pass right on i'm like sorry but we did uh well don't have time for you we did get to go to the grand seiko boutique and saw the tea kettle i forget the name of it oh yeah what is that the tea kettle dial really cool it was gorgeous and the first grand seiko i've ever touched in person that was an appropriate thickness Oh, yeah. You know, they are making some thin watches these days. It was razor thin. And then especially compared to the rest of the Grand Seiko lineup, it was just stunning.
Everett	I agree with you. Yeah, fully. I just fully agree with you.
Andrew	Did not see the titanium Santos in person, though. Probably should have gone to watch time. I bet they would have had it there.
Everett	Did you go to the Cartier house? Did you go to the Boussier camp? I considered popping in there and seeing if they had one. They did not have one at Vempi.
Andrew	It's not Vempi. It seemed like Vempi, but it was a jeweler that had 80 boxes of Vempi. I figured they would have one there. I knew they would have one at the Cartier house. We just didn't make time to stop there. We walked by it a few times, though. Well, Andrew, why don't you just do it? Let's do it. Let's get it started then. Oh, I know where we're going to start. So Fears and Studio Underdog are in the midst of a really interesting collaborative relationship. And we have version three of Studio Underdog and Fears with the mimosa. And it looks really similar to the first one they did. Great colorway. They're using the same case. Really, this is just a dial swap. I do like this relationship. I'm kind of curious to see how long this lasts. But it looks very much like the Gimlet. It's different. But it looks pretty similar. Did get to see a Manhattan in person. It was very lovely. I don't know. I'm kind of... I'm not over it, right? I want them to continue this collaboration. I'm just... Maybe I'm not as high on it as everyone else.
Everett	Yeah, I actually... I think that Manhattan is... is stunning. There's no way I was going to stand in a line for that.
Andrew	You wouldn't believe the line. It was hundreds of people deep. They had a serpentine line in a separate room just for the chance to buy. It was wild.
Everett	Really beautiful dial on that.
Andrew	It is really good.
Everett	Raymond Weil. Ooh. You know, they came out with the Mille Cime last year, or the year before. And I think we sort of remarked, like, this really feels like Raymond Weil is, like, here to play. And I think that's true. And I think that the industry, the consumer at least of enthusiast media was sort of in agreement, the collective consumer of enthusiast media. They've just released another banger. They're calling this the Takata Heritage. which is a Patek Ellipse homage. Something like that. I think that's okay to say. I don't think that's unfair. You know, the Patek Ellipse is obviously a lovely, beautiful watch. And this is very similar to that. And I don't think anybody has any qualms about that. And I'm still okay with it. It's a really, really well done execution of that sort of oval cased watch. They've done a really nice job with this. And this does feel to me very much like an enthusiast watch. And unlike the Ellipse, this can be had for $1,800. Yeah. Or even less than that, 1675 on the Alcantara strap, calf slash Alcantara strap. What I will say, so this is available both in a 34 by 38 ellipse case or the smaller 31 and change case, 31 by 36. The proportions on this are perfect. And I think that 34 millimeter case is almost perfect decision in terms of dimension for average male wrist, let's say. I think there's a problem though. Oh, and I don't know. I, I think that Raymond Wah has a problem, which is to say, I don't think they've done enough to release a watch like this and not have people do the thing that you do where you see the logo and you assume what it is. It doesn't help that they've released this in both a beautiful mechanical and a quartz, right? So we've got the same watch with a relatively pedestrian quartz movement. Or we've got this... 4100, Raymond Wilde 4100 series, square movement, mechanical hand-winding, gorgeous, beautiful movement. And so it's sort of like, I think that the way they've released this cheapens it, and it's made worse based on the fact that I think, I'm just going to say, I think the Raymond Wilde brand isn't in shape for this. I think the brand... Needs work. And I don't think that this is the type of release that does work for the brand.
Andrew	Yeah, I can see that. This isn't... This is a confused release, I think. When you're releasing a watch like this that's kind of in the vein of luxury, they've got a lab-grown diamond inset one. That's in the small, in the quartz. They've got quartz and mechanical. It's almost like an affordable watch, but not in an affordable way. Yeah. It's curious.
Everett	You know, the Ellipse is a hidden lug watch or a recessed lug watch, and this is a lugged watch. It's different in... I mean, it's just like... Yeah, it's a curious release. I think Raymond Weil has a problem, and I don't think... I think that they were, with the Miele CMA, poised to really address that in a meaningful way, and I think this is maybe not a step backwards, but... but a step sideways, which hurts, right? You can't afford step sideways right now. Yeah. So I, I, and that's not to say I don't like the watch cause I like the watch.
Andrew	Yeah. It, it doesn't make sense to me on paper. I like the watch, which is to say on your phone screen, I'm not fucking buying one. Yeah. I know I won't be buying one either, but I do like looking at it. What's up? We have a new Christopher Ward C63 C-Lander with the Extreme GMT. We got to see one of these in person. Touched. We even touched it. Handled it. Put it on the wrist. I got to say. Mike Pearson hung it on my erect penis. Why is it wrecked? Why don't you do to it?
Everett	It didn't happen.
Andrew	Oh. I just demonstrated for Andrew. Now I understand. Yeah. Thank you. I had to open my eyes. It was like this. And then he just, just like a horseshoe. Uh, so a couple of big changes for this. This is the, um, C 63 C lander GMT in a new increased case size at 41 millimeters ceramic bezel, uh, light texture on the dial uh like just just a little bit sandy like really really ultra fine grit sandpaper texture that works for me because of the colorways they chose there's a black dial and kind of a stone gray green dial option these come either on a nylon strap with a velcro closure or on a bracelet and they're really good These are really, really rugged watches. And I like that Christopher Ward is very intentionally leaning into the tool watch without being like a exceptionally complicated bells and whistles gadget watch. They're leaning into just rugged, well-built stuff. And there's, as I understand, more of that to come. But these are good. And the C63 is such a freaking fantastic platform. The lume blocks on this are nuts. Absolutely nuts.
Everett	Glabalite.
Andrew	Yes. And it's Christopher Ward. So you're paying $2,660 on a bracelet. 150 meters of water resistance. Yeah, this is a great addition to the Christopher Ward line.
Everett	A couple comments from me. One comment is it reminded me a lot of the Pursuit Pro, the Jack Mason Pursuit Pro that I just had. In fact, that I just sent back today. I just put that in the mail today. I thought they were... They're not the same. Certainly not the same. But the vibe of the watches felt the same. Comment two. It's a light catcher case without polish. And I was like... It felt weird to me. In fact, in the flesh, I was like, you know... I wonder if... if you square up those beveled edges, it's going to be a harsher case, a more blocky case. But I think it's something I might have liked. Comment three, the bracelet. We didn't get to see this on the bracelet. And I'm looking at the renders. I believe these are renders.
Andrew	Those are renders, yeah.
Everett	of this thing on the bracelet. And I think this is a watch. Some watches need a female end link. Most. There are two types of watches that have male end links. The first one is the type that really needs a female end link. And the second time is the one that abso-fucking-lutely needs a female end link. This is the latter. I really think this thing winds up, because of the way it sort of curves at the end, I think this thing's going to be a pain in the ass with that male end link. That's just me. I really like the watch. It sounds like I'm bragging on it. I really liked this watch. I don't think their bracelet has a male end link typically.
Andrew	I think this is just a rendering. It was really good on a strap. I think this is one of those watches that you buy on the bracelet, but you wear it on a strap.
Everett	They call it their V-strap, and I thought it was like textile. I thought it was a cool textile strap. I think I liked Peter Cho's version of that strap better than I liked Christopher Ward's though. Okay. Is it my turn? It is. The Loria. Oh. So this is a watch that's so light you can't get it. Yep. Laurier did not have a booth at Windup. And Andrew and I both commented on that. I said, oh, it's too bad. You know, Laura and Lorenzo live here. And they did not have their own booth. The booths at Windup have gotten really expensive. And so I don't know if that's why.
Andrew	They said when I asked them about it, they were like, we don't really have anything to put on the table right now.
Everett	You know, Laurier does not have stock almost ever. And they make things in small quantities. And so whether that's... Yeah, anyway. But they were there. They were there at the... Oh, what's the name? The Grand Central Watch table. And they were there because they were showing off their announcement, their new release, which is the Roosevelt. And this is a limited edition watch that's made in bronze. And it is... Gorgeous. Yeah. Absolutely stunning, I thought. So Laurier has their Zephyr, the Art Deco inspired dress watch. This is, it felt to me similar, Andrew. Is that fair to say? Yes. 36 millimeter, 8 millimeter tall. It was so good. It was so, so good. Lorenzo was there kind of wearing it and showing it off. They only made $250. They were $800, which was an absolute fucking steal. And they're all gone. Look it up so that you can see what you missed out on. Dang. Dang, I'm sad I didn't get one.
Andrew	Yes. Yeah, it was really good. And it remains really good. If you get a chance to just see one, definitely do see it. That just everything was perfect. And that's what Laurier does. Down to the every last detail is so well executed. The size on it was just absolutely perfect. Finishing on it was top notch. And a cool partnership collaboration watch with Grand Central Watch who does their, it's their watch servicer. That was how the partnership came to be.
Everett	Really, really gorgeous watch. The crown on this thing. Is that an onion crown? Yeah. I was really, really smitten by that coin edge bezel. And, of course, acrylic, which makes the dial just sing. Yeah.
Andrew	Yeah, really lovely.
Everett	You're next. Oh.
Andrew	Oh, our boys at Notice are at it again. We have the... new Sector 2 Pilot in DLC. And here's, you know, something that I don't super dig about this one. I don't like the texture in the middle of this dial. Everything else about it I do like. It's a Sector 2 Pilot in all DLC. Green accents on the dial, on the all-black dial, kind of gives it that, like that... military jet green feel, which I think is the intent there. I dig it. I like seeing them, seeing their iterative releases. I like seeing what they're doing with DLC, and I like this, and they're still affordable. All right, price here, 625 bucks.
Everett	This feels very much like a notice watch.
Andrew	Yeah, well, it's a Sector 2 pilot.
Everett	Yeah, it's a good watch.
Andrew	I wonder what else they have in the works. We haven't seen a big jaw dropper from them in a while.
Everett	I think Notice is making watches, man. They are making watches. That's like a freaking machine. Anarch? Okay. hanhart uh two new versions of the silva which is hanhart's sort of mid-size dressy sport watch um kind of based on a their 1930s sport watch This is, but released in two new colors, a rosé and a pistachio. The rosé is, for my taste, maybe a little purple. It's a pink. I don't love most pink watches. I think most pink watches are not made for me. This particular pink is not my favorite. If I'm gonna love a pink watch... It's going to be a little bit more towards the sort of orange-yellow spectrum. This is a very cool pink, and I don't love it.
Andrew	It looks like cupcake frosting.
Everett	A little, yeah. You know what it looks like to me? It looks like a blackberry ice cream color almost. With that said, the pistachio I think is... Absolutely delightful. Now, these both come with high contrast hands and numerals in black. And I saw that and I thought, you know, I don't know what I think about this. And then I came back to it and I was like, you know, I know what I think about this and I really like it. If you don't know the Silva, this is a watch. It's got even numerals, and then at the odds, it's got applied steel button markers. It's little pips. Pips. They're teeny tiny, but they're absolutely beautiful in person. They just kind of push light. Depending on what you're doing, they push light off. Anyway. I think these are really clever releases. This watch, I believe, is just under 10 millimeters and 38 half wide. Yep. 50 meters of water resistance, so this isn't a watch that you're going to want to do your English Channel crossing, but comes in at under $1,000. Yeah. Or maybe just over 1,000 now. It's 990 euros. No. But really good price on these. I think this is a really clever watch. The movement here is a Soprade. top grade P024 movement. And it's got a custom rotor that's been skeletonized. The P024 is not a beautiful movement, but they've done a little bit of work to it. And to give it a little bit of, they classed it up, they zhushed it up a little bit.
Andrew	A little bit. It kind of has like a 1920s, like early auto sports feel to it. Totally. The colors they chose and the kind of, uh, Spartan decorations that are really intentional, but, but sparse.
Everett	Yeah. And you know, it's, it's like I said, it's a movement, um, only a mother could love, but they've done just enough to me to make it interesting in that exposed case. Like this is a cool watch. It's not a watch that anybody's going to ever get excited about. Right. Probably not. No, but it's such a good watch. Like if you were like, I'm going to spend a thousand bucks and I want a 38 and a half millimeter watch, Kind of dressy, kind of sporty watch. Nobody's going to bring this up, but they should.
Andrew	And the mesh bracelet is smoking on this. Smoking.
Everett	Yeah, I'd probably wear this on leather, but I like a mesh bracelet. The mesh does look nice. Yeah, I'd probably wear this on something like a really shiny black strap, I think is what I'd wear this on. I might even get fucking genuine crocodile for this. Give me that genuine croc. Real croc.
Andrew	All right. Don't mind if I do. I got nothing else. Seiko. The new Seiko Rotocall series. The old. The new old.
Everett	The new old.
Andrew	Old new. The revival of the Rotocall series. And they are good. They are very fun. So these are a fully digital metal case. 37 millimeter kind of like. I don't really know what to call this case shape. It's kind of an octagon, but then it has proper lugs. Let's call it D'Andro. Yeah, or the Rotocall. 37 millimeter, 43 and a half lug to lug, 10.6 thick, 100 meters of water resistance. It is 480 bucks. We have... couple different dial variations available so there's an anthracite dial uh or a light gray dial there's a yellow and black highlighted version a red and black highlighted version a gray and blue highlighted version uh and this is fun and good i love this this has every bit of the 80s but none of the like misses that you kind of expect when seiko does something like this I nailed this.
Everett	Yeah, no, I'm with you. This is slam dunk. This is a home run. This is a bottom of the ninth home run grand slam. The end link, smooth. The bracelet, brushed, jubilee, the dial fucking weird. Everything about it's cool. I just love it. I want it.
Andrew	Yeah, I want one too.
Everett	Are you okay? And 500 bucks? You just made a face like maybe you would like shard it a little bit. You were thinking about going to change.
Andrew	I could have. I don't know. Okay. I might have. I think I like the black and red. But the blue and gray is also really good.
Everett	There's not a colorway that pops out at me. It's like, this is the one.
Andrew	No, because they all kind of do. And also kind of none of them do. This is like the Iron Man meets the Seiko 5.
Everett	Doesn't Rotocall makes me think of Robocall? It does do that a little bit, yeah. I think this is better than the original. And I don't just mean more functional. Like, I actually think they shored up the design just a little bit in a good way.
Andrew	Well, one would hope that when you're releasing something, nigh on 40 years later, you've made some improvements.
Everett	Well, but they don't. Oftentimes they don't.
Andrew	They make it worse, yeah.
Everett	Yeah, no. And here, I do think that this is slightly better than the original. Yeah, I think this is a killer release.
Andrew	The bezel rotation is what changes your functions. Yeah.
Everett	It's so cool. It's a good watch. Yeah, I don't think that you kind of grumbled about the price. I think the price is right on this.
Andrew	It is. I want it to be 50 bucks because I want all the colors.
Everett	You know, Andrew, one of the tables, probably the experience, I think it's okay to say this, the experience that I was most disappointed in at Wind Up was Baltic. And not because of the watches, because the watches are terrific. It was because... I was probably at their display for, I don't know, 15 minutes. And I touched a bunch of watches. And it wasn't busy. When I was there, it wasn't busy. And nobody talked to me. And it wasn't just me. Nobody talked to anybody. They weren't rude actively.
Andrew	Rude? They wanted the watchers to speak for themselves.
Everett	That was the denizen table. They weren't actively rude, but they were just like sort of, I couldn't tell if it was like tired or snooty or like, I wanted to engage with them and talk to them. Maybe, you know, maybe it was a language barrier. I just don't know. I was like, why aren't you guys talking to me? I was really disappointed.
Andrew	Because you were wearing a press badge. You were intimidating to them. Do you think?
Everett	When did you go? And they weren't just not talking to me. They weren't talking to anyone. People were coming up and funneling the watches. It was like, go ahead and touch our watches, but don't talk to us. I was really disappointed because it's one of the few brands.
Andrew	Maybe they weren't Baltic people. Maybe they were just like temp employees, like vendors.
Everett	Yeah, maybe. And frankly, I don't know because they didn't talk to me. So I couldn't tell you. I was disappointed. With that said. Baltic released a scale graph limited edition this week that I do not find disappointing. So this is a limited edition celebrating Baltic's participation as official timekeeper of the transat cafe lore which is a um which is a regatta so and baltic is now the official timekeeper um i actually do not care about that at all With that said, this watch is absolutely stunning. Baltic does such a great job with line weight and font size. They go with, they do not fill up the space with their lines and their fonts. And it really does a good job. No, their designers exercise a lot of restraint. This has this absolutely stunning blue PVD bezel. I believe it's a blue PVD bezel. Dang it. And now I'm doubting myself. but the color is just absolutely delectable. And then underneath that is this white chapter ring and this champagne dial that opens up into a really sort of traditional regatta color, white and light blue, dark blue and orange. Brushed aluminum. Oh, brushed aluminum, okay. Um, it, this is just a really, really, it looks like something that's very old. You know what I mean? It just looks very old. So this is a 77 50 movement, uh, which means four Hertz, uh, column will, or, uh, four Hertz, uh, column wheel chronograph, 63 hour power reserve on this guy. Comes on either an FKM rubber strap or sort of a beads of rice bracelet. In a rare, rare moment for me, I'm going to say this is better on the strap than it is on the bracelet.
Andrew	I think because of the color match on it, this feels like a 1950s, 1960s sailing watch that should be on leather.
Everett	Yeah. Yeah, I think that's right, Andrew. And this is the limited 200 pieces. I think the export price is 2,100 euro. I think it's just a really terrific. I think this is a really terrific watch. And I like it. Agreed. And I like it. They still have them. They're still available. Agreed.
Andrew	Pardon me. Oh, we have a fun one. Casio with a Back to the Future limited edition. The new CA500WEBF1A digital calculator watch inspired by Back to the Future, celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Back to the Future. It comes in a VHS appearing case with a VHS sleeve over it. And it's just a fun calculator watch. It says out of time at the top of it. But it's just a calculator watch.
Everett	And it's out of.
Andrew	Yeah. Not out of time. Out of time. Out of time. It comes in a VHS case, which some of you may not feel like we've seen that recently. We have seen that recently. $119 on this. Yeah, just a fun calculator. And it's back to the future theme. I love back to the future.
Everett	So the... What are we calling this watch? Is it the Parade? The Serica Parade, which is a watch that I believe came out last year. Parade. Parade. It's just this really delightful oval watch that is like well under nine millimeters thick. They're just gorgeous.
Andrew	I wish I'd have been able to... sit and chat with Jerome a little bit while, while we're there. I saw him briefly.
Everett	Yeah. We, we got to get Jerome on the show cause he's just a ball of energy in a good way.
Andrew	Yeah. And he's making really good watches. Holy damn.
Everett	So, uh, Serica released two new linen dials, uh, for this watch this week. And I got to say, I, I am not a fan of linen dials almost ever. Yeah. and I'm going to make an exception for these. I don't know what it is that they did here, but these are the, these are inoffensive linen dials because they're really, really subtle. Yeah, maybe it might be the grain, the grain size of the linen or the threads, quote unquote thread size. Um, but it is whatever that subtlety is, Andrew. Uh, I've seen a lot of Lennon dolls before. I was just like, and I just, this moment in particular, I saw the gold one and I was like, okay.
Andrew	And we've all had that color gold on furniture in our lives. There's something like familiar about that, like gold, yellow. that just, we all have a memory. We all can see that couch somewhere in our life. Like whether it was at grandma's house or like your weird aunt, someone has actually like an embossed vinyl.
Everett	We all had embossed vinyl in that color.
Andrew	Also that or a table or like some kind of like eighties, nineties thing or maybe like relic of the seventies really. Uh,
Everett	So if you don't know what we're talking about, look up the Serica Parade. These are the reference 1174 linen dials, but the whole slate of these is really good. These are in both a slate blue or a tobacco green is the gold, what we're calling gold. They've actually called that tobacco green. That must be a language barrier thing.
Andrew	Yeah. That's a lost in translation.
Everett	These are 8.2 millimeter thick, 35 millimeter oval dress watches that cost roughly 1600 US dollars and that you should 100. percent buy prior to buying a ram and while ellipse homage yes buy this not that yeah if you have to if you have to pick sorry ray ray we're not meaning to pick on you
Andrew	We're not picking you at all, actually. But we're not picking you either. No, that's a... I think for such a young brand who has such a diversity of watches, they're executing in all of their flavors really well, right? They've got these really purpose-designed tool watches, field watches, and this really well-executed dress segment. And none of them are, oops, I banged on my microphone. None of them are suffering, right? There's not one that they're just phoning it in on. They're nailing it across their entire catalog. Nailing it.
Everett	There's a lot of really good taste that went into this watch.
Andrew	Those French guys, they know how to do it.
Everett	What are we at right now? We are at 47 minutes. I think you could talk about another watch, or we could not.
Andrew	You know, I don't really care about any of the rest of the things that I have picked.
Everett	Oh, sad. Sad.
Andrew	Well, let me see here. Oh, actually, nope. I lied. You're wrong. I'm not wrong. You're wrong. Yeah, I'm wrong. Alpina, a new Alpiner Heritage automatic. It's got two E's and two R's. I don't know how else to say it. A new Europe-only release. And I absolutely adore this watch. This special edition is a... Pardon me. All black dial with a, I don't know if I'm going to call that Fotina. I think that's just like a really Fotina accents on it, but it's not meant to like be aged. It's just that color. Yeah. Oh, I closed all my tabs. Just really lovely. And I, I love this watch. 32 and a half thick, 39 lug to lug.
Everett	Nice. 32 and a half wide. It's not 32 millimeters thick.
Andrew	Could be. Depends on which direction you're wearing it. It's a cube. Yeah, 32.5 wide, 971 thick. It's using the Sellita SW261 as its base movement. They're only making 100 of these, and it's a Europe-only release. But, you know, just take a look at this with this beautiful small seconds.
Everett	Take a look at this watch you can't have.
Andrew	Yeah.
Everett	Yeah, it's really good.
Andrew	This is constantly on my list of, I think I should get one of these. Not this one in particular, because I'll never get one of these. But the curry, for sure, though.
Everett	RZE. RZE. I think maybe... It's hard for me to tell. So RZ released the UTD 8000 this last year, which I think has been wildly popular and adored almost universally. Nobody's saying anything bad about it because it's just such a delightful release. RZE has just now released another watch that I think is going to garner wide and consistent praise, which is a 36 millimeter Resolute. which is made out of grade two titanium that is nine and a half millimeters thick and a 42.3 millimeter lug to lug, which means to say a very compact watch with their ultra hex hard coating on the titanium. This is a banger watch that's made in a very adorable. and perhaps perfect size uh very angular 100 meters of water resistance sort of an aggressive looking watch that comes in with a great dimension and uh feature set yes how are they doing all that
Andrew	I don't know. They are doing it. The loom on this is fantastic. The loom pattern is super fun. It's really bright. And it's $600.
Everett	Yeah, you've got like sort of a Tron loom thing. We've got a Miyota 9039 movement. We've got a tool-free micro adjust. We've got a H case sort of lug opening. I mean, there are just so many good things. Now, I was about to say, I think RZE might be on the precipice of... opening up their brand in a good way, but I don't know because I, I don't know where they go. Like this is a surprising release to me and I wouldn't have expected it. If you told me what they were going to do, if you said RZ is going to release the resolute, but they're going to, they're going to slim it down. I would not have thought I was going to like that. No. And yet, here I am. I think this is a really terrific watch release. It's come out in four colors. I had the list of them somewhere. Who cares about the colors? Black, light blue, red, and green. So Waypoint is the black. Halcyon is the light blue. Tempo was the red. Mojito was the green. All pretty good color-wise. I agree with Andrew. The black is the one you want. Golly. What a surprising and delightful release, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Andrew	I want to not like it. I don't know why, but I really like it.
Everett	They've just done everything right here.
Andrew	Yeah.
Everett	Yeah. I have 600 bucks. I mean, can you think of a watch that like, let's say you get 600 bucks and you have to buy the best sort of automatic steel watch you can, like the toughest. I can't think of anything that beats this. Maybe something from Citizen.
Andrew	I think you can look into Boulder. You're going to stay under in the $600 range. But this is better than that.
Everett	This is better than anything Boulder's ever even considered. Yeah. This is better than any watch that Boulder's ever had on their drawing board. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't mean that as a dig to Boulder. I do actually. I do mean that as a dig to Boulder. Is Unimatic coming in in that zone sometimes? Yeah, they're close, but this is better than that too.
Andrew	Yeah, I mean, I think this is first in class at this price point.
Everett	That's right. That's it. This is first in class at the price point. That's exactly right, Andrew. This is crazy.
Andrew	This is like... This is a contender for one of the objectively best watches... out there. Like if we, if we'd applied our scientifically proven and peer reviewed scoring metrics, um, this would, this would be a really hard watch to beat.
Everett	I think so. Yeah.
Andrew	I, I mean, do we trust RZE now?
Everett	Maybe we do. I, Yeah. Did you have another one? Because I do have another one. No, I don't care about the other ones. Okay, so one more that I do want to talk about. James Brand and Timex did the thing that they did before again with a couple changes. Instead of titanium, now we get steel. Instead of a 24-hour bezel, we now get a dive bezel. But what this is is a James times Timex. Miyota GMT. And it's really cool, man. 41 millimeter case, very sort of EDC oriented, as you might imagine with the James brand. Miyota 9075, giving you true traveler GMT functionality. Couple of cool brands, 750 bucks. Timex is doing it, man. Yeah. I mean, I don't think objectively this isn't as good a watch as the RZ that we just talked about. No, not by a long shot.
Andrew	And more expensive.
Everett	Subjectively, it's cooler.
Andrew	It's a little cooler. Oh, man. Did you look at the atelier while we were there?
Everett	I didn't. I didn't get hands on it.
Andrew	I know you were a fan of it. I really liked it. It was really good in person. The person working their table was... she was hustling. She was doing her job. She's explaining all those features and specs and she flips it over and shows me the bracelet. I'm like, oh, I like the clasp. And then she popped open that stupid dive extension and I was like... Nope. And it has that, it has the dive extension, like standalone clasp function rather than something that extends or, and I just, I see the functionality in that. I absolutely loathe. that design decision and will never, ever buy a watch from a company by that watch if it has that gross feature. I know you can change bracelets, but if they made that decision, God knows what other decisions they made along the way.
Everett	What other decisions have you made? Yeah, Panerai released a ceramica, a 40 millimeter ceramica that is way too expensive for me, but also really good. And Zen released a U50 in blue. That's terrific. That's all I have.
Andrew	Okay, good.
Everett	Stop talking. Andrew, other things. What do you got?
Andrew	Oh, I... So ahead of going on our trip, I was doing my normal, like, packing and checking to make sure all my stuff worked. And my power bank took a shit. And it just wouldn't power up. And I was like, well, I guess I need to get a new power bank. So I got the, man, the Anchor website is just terrible. I got an Anker PowerBank 20K with a built-in USB-C cable. And man, it is so convenient to have a built-in cable. It has a little channel that it hides in, so it's not just a loose tail floating around behind. Takes a little while to charge it up. But this thing, it charges my phone super fast. I think I paid less than that. I think I paid like $50 on Amazon for it. Killer. And you have an Anker power bank. You've got the one size up from me. But this is killer. I can't. I mean, it does all the things that I want it to do. And it does it well.
Everett	Yeah, I've got the 20,000 maw. I've got the 20,000 maw.
Andrew	No, I have the $20,000. You must have the one step up from that.
Everett	Maybe I do. It's been a while since I've purchased it.
Andrew	Yours is bigger. But I like it. It did it for me. So if you're in the market for a new power bank, Anchor does good stuff, and it was affordable, and it did all the things right out of the box.
Everett	You know, I think there was a time when I think Anchor was like sort of the in-the-know brand. uh where you know if you know you know kind of deal like they were inexpensive and like kind of like a bargain that time is gone right yeah anchor is a full retail operation that's that's really established itself and is known for its quality and sort of industry leading you know, industry standard at this point, I think. Yeah, I think they kind of set the tone. And I do think that there are brands that have filled the void left by Anchor. And so I think it's something I haven't been willing to do because I don't buy power banks that often. But I think the next time I buy a power bank, I might try to find that brand. It's always a fun thing, right, to find that thing. I mean, that's why we do what we do. Yeah, yeah. It's just a little bit different. Yeah. Can I... I wasn't going to do this, actually, but I think I'd like to talk about this Weller 107 for my other thing. We've already kind of talked about it, but as we've been drinking this, Andrew, I have... As we've been drinking this, I've been thinking about what it is that makes this special. So one, I think because it's hard to find and presentation and the bottle and, you know, Buffalo Trace makes obviously just a phenomenal product too. So it's like the whole thing. It's like sitting down with my buddy. and drinking this special sort of unobtainium whiskey, I think is really clever, but like actually the whiskey is really good. Yeah. So there's something about, you know, we drank it on the show recently. Um, maybe not that recently, but, but not, not too long ago either. We drank the Ben holiday, Rick house proof, uh, soft red wheat. And I've had that recently because I got this and I thought, you know, I kind of want to try these together. That's an interesting pairing because they couldn't be more different. Well, in theory, they should be very, very similar. And actually, they are. I mean, when you compare this to, say, an Old Forrester product or a Jack Daniels product, you can tell that these are weeded whiskeys, right? You get that sort of funky... fruity like this sort of like fermented berry thing um but buffalo trace does a little something i don't know what it is and maybe that's what i should try to figure out but The Ben Holiday soft red wheat, you get that funky fruit, which is good. That funky fruit sounds bad. It's not. It's really sort of this delightful flavor, but it's really one-dimensional. This has that right up front, but then it just like melts in to all of these excellent. I don't want to be too hyperbolic. I promise I've only had about an ounce of whiskey. This is maybe, like, if this weren't so hard to get, it would just be perhaps the greatest whiskey on earth for its price. What does this cost? What's the MSRP on Weller 107?
Andrew	I'm seeing it at $140. Yeah, but that's not the MSRP. Oh, no, that's not it. Weller 107 MSRP.
Everett	It is $55 is the MSRP on this, or $60 in Oregon. So I feel really confident saying I don't think there's anything.
Andrew	Well, and that's what made this unobtainium, right? It's this very affordable, very drinkable, special bottle that for some reason is still affordable. And people got wise to it in 2020. And then they vanished.
Everett	You know, there's maybe one or two old Forester products that I think get you really close to this in terms of value. I used to think Rare Breed was right there. I'm not sure it is anymore. I do think the Jack Daniels single barrel barrel pro for just a little bit more money gets really close. But honestly, it's 60 bucks. Gosh. Yeah. If you could just get this for 60 bucks. You'd be like, everybody go buy this.
Andrew	Just make more whiskey, Buffalo Trace.
Everett	You know, I think that they increase their capacity every year by like 15 or 20%, you know? Yeah, you can't keep up with us. Well, and the problem there, when the crash happens, they're going to be fucked. They're going to just be holding the bag. And then we'll be able to get it again by the case for 50 bucks. Andrew, anything else you want to add before we go? No, I think I'm good. We did really good. It's only... Hour five? Look at us. Hey guys, thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 in 20, the Watch Clicker podcast. Do me a favor, go to our website. That is watchclicker.com. That's where we post articles and reviews and other things about watches in the written word. If you want to follow us on social media, you can do that on Instagram at 40in20 underscore watchclicker. or at watch clicker that is where we post occasional pictures and wristies and uh other things about maybe things we're doing on the website or on the podcast If you want to support us, and oh boy, we hope you do, you can do that at patreon.com slash 40 and 20. The money that we get on Patreon that people like you give to us to support the show, we use for hosting, photo hosting, podcast hosting. We do actually need that to keep going. And don't forget to tune back in next Tuesday for another hour of watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like.
Andrew	Bye-bye.