Doxa 250T: More than Just a Creative Name (338)

Published on Mon, 28 Apr 2025 20:32:35 -0700

Synopsis

In this episode of 40 in 20, hosts Andrew and Everett discuss several new watch releases and share their thoughts on TV shows. They begin with banter about their podcast intro routine and recording process. The watch discussion includes new releases from Jacques Bianchi, Oak & Junior, Singer Reimagined, and others. They particularly focus on the Jacques Bianchi JB200 Aqua Strike Collection, a colorful dive watch series, and Singer's new chronograph featuring vintage Valjoux movements. The hosts also review the SPV 143 watch that Everett has been wearing consistently.

In the second half of the episode, they shift to discussing television shows. Andrew shares his thoughts on the latest season of Black Mirror, relating one episode's themes about parental controls to his recent experience getting his son an Apple Watch. Everett then reviews the TV series 1923, a Yellowstone spinoff starring Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren, praising its quality while noting his dislike of one particular storyline involving Timothy Dalton.

Transcript

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Everett Hello fellow watch lovers, nerds, enthusiasts, or however you identify. You're listening to 40 in 20, the watch clicker podcast with your hosts, Andrew and my good friend Everett. Here, we talk about watches, food, drinks, life, and other things we like. Everett, how are you? I'm doing all right, man. Uh, do you have a note that you crack your beer on or is it just sort of, I just, I just run it by feel. Usually it's right after you unmute me because for some reason you keep me muted for, for what sometimes feels like, are you ever going to unmute me? Cause I just want to open this beer and put it down there so that I can get my head past opening the beer, putting it down and onto what I have to say. which I think I could probably recite in my sleep. So you at home, we, so just quickly, when the music starts, we're typically muted. So what I'll do is I'll mute both of the microphones, start the music, and then. Because he doesn't trust me. The next, well, it's because it needs to be quiet and Andrew's noisy. The next thing that happens is I should unmute Andrew because he likes to crack his beard. But for whatever reason, I lose my mind in that second most of the time. I know. I feel it. Most episodes, I lose my mind in that it's brief. It's like usually a beat. And I'm like, oh yeah, I got it on Mew and Andrew. It's like every episode. You know those videos of like a dog with a treat sitting on its nose and it's just like vibrating and it's just like fountain of drool. That's what that one second feels like. I don't even take a sip of the beer when I open it. I just, I crack it and I put it down so that I can get my head into, The monologue that I'm about to go into. Sure, sure, sure, sure. The intro's long, man. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is a little bit. I think it's a little shorter than the outro. Because there's less beers pre-intro than outro. But it's, it's verbatim. So the, so the intro is verbatim. The outro is, yeah, the intro has changed one time when 1420 and the watch clicker became one. Uh, and that's the one time it's changed the outro. We've, we've added elements. Uh, it's, it's changed increasingly or freestyles and I almost always freestyle. No, not usually. It's every time. Yeah. I mean, there's no script. No. There was a script at one point. Yeah, but even then I don't think I was religious about it. You were not Yeah, but it's good. The intro is I agree that the intro should be verbatim Every time go back listen to episode 222 and episode 19 And the same yeah, isn't that funny? You know Andrew and I we wrote this we're sitting on my deck. We're we weren't in our current houses. We're at the old house I guess pre-COVID that we wrote, it definitely is pre-COVID, so we were in the deck or in the guest room. Yeah, we sat on the deck, I remember you were in that green Adirondack and we came up with all of our elements, wrote the intro, I think we wrote the outro, quote unquote wrote the outro. We did write it, at some point it was written. It's on a legal pad somewhere on that shelf. Somewhere, yeah. Uh, Andrew, I'm doing all right. How are you? I'm good. I'm a little sunburnt. Spent the day out on a turf field and I lamented that it was miserable. And you're like, Oh, today's so fucking beautiful. It was, it was gorgeous. Gorgeous. It was like, it was gorgeous. 68, 69 degrees, really lovely breeze. Just some clouds. My nine year old commented while looking at the sky. This looks like a TV set. Yeah, it was just a stunning world class. And I go, dude, you're right. It is very picturesque. Put your helmet on. We're playing a game. I'm like, God, where are you? Like, how am I more focused than you are? I don't even have a mouth guard. But I got a little sunburned because I have the ginger gene, which means that the sun and I are not we're not on friendly terms. Like I still have every tropical vacation I've ever been on. I have a freckle collection on my shoulders. You gotta get them tattooed. You gotta get the freckles tattooed. They don't go away. Mexico 2021. They just don't go away. I'm like, Oh yeah, no, these were, these weren't here when I went to Hawaii. These weren't here when I went to Mexico. Um, these weren't here that one day I laid in the sun and fell asleep at home. Um, uh, but yeah, I'm, I'm good. I'm coming right on the tail end of, um, I don't know, 12. days off work. Yeah. Um, which is fantastic. So I have a super itchy beard. I have a thing where I don't shave if I'm not working. That's 12 days of beard. Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah. It's, it's not good. I mean, it's fine. It's a fine beard. It's not, but it's okay. I just, that's like, that's an afternoon for Wednesday afternoon for me if I don't shave on Tuesday. I don't, I don't grow a thick beard. Um, The corners of my mustache are actually pretty dense and dark. The rest is very patchworky. And every color now, like black to red to gray, a lot of gray, actually kind of a disappointing amount of gray. Not as much as you, because you're fucking ancient, so fuck off. I'm not, you're getting old. I'm not that much older than you anymore. No, you're still 15 years older than me. We're still, what, 20? Because, you know, we started the show 40 and 20, and you're still 20 years older than me, so. The longer we go, the less... It closes. It closes. The gap closes. I know. We could now be a romantic couple and no one would even bat an eye. My kids were talking about, recently they were talking about a 52-year-old and a 42-year-old dating. I was like, go fuck! And a 42-year-old dating. And they were like, that's 10 years different. When she was our age, she was a baby. And I was like... Yeah, you get old in those. It doesn't make a difference. Yeah, that Delta closes. Yeah, Delta starts closing at about 30. Yeah, well, yeah, I always say half plus seven, right? That's the rule. That's half your age plus seven years. That's the youngest person you can date. I mean, I'm married, so I'm not going to date anyone over 18, but at 42, it's 21 plus seven. That's eight, 28 years old. 18, 20, my man, love your math. And if you're 80, it's 40 plus seven, so 47. If you're 80, you could date a 47-year-old. It gets a little weird there, but- That's ballin' right there. I'm not gonna object to it. It's weird. I maybe don't get it, but I'm not gonna object. I can see you with an 80-year-old. You can see me with an 80-year-old? Yeah, I'll think about it. If Kim leaves me I'll look I'll start looking smart. Yeah, that's I mean the smartest thing a guy could do Other other me a little sunburn coming on the tail end of a vacation. I got the weekend scaries I have to go back to work tomorrow a little bummed about that really not looking forward to whatever's in my email box cuz I I Email gives me like more anxiety than actual job. So I've thought about this in the past. Uh, I've thought about this in the past. If, what if you, if you came back from a vacation and you just, you know, used a little button at the top to select everything and press delete. I used to do that when I was in the army and I would go on a proper vacation and I would put an out of office up in my out of office. It's I'm out of office from this date to this date. Any emails I received during this time period will be deleted and unread. I would fucking do it. I would come back from work. Delete. I can't do that now. Cause a lot of my emails are like subpoenas and like same. I can't do it because of my ethical obligations. But mine are more like, I'll get in trouble if I don't like go to court or, you know, Provide a discovery request like there's some some actual consequences associated with that So now I have to read every email and which is a bummer, but now while I was in the army I did do that and it was awesome. Yeah, I got kudos for it I did get in trouble a couple times because I'm like, well, sir my out of office did say I would not read your email and delete it. So who's in the wrong? So Andrew, I've been, uh, again, uh, we don't do risk checks, but, uh, I would just say I am wearing the SPV 143 today. Have you seen my new wristwatch? I have been wearing this thing. Constantly. Yeah, you haven't taken it off constantly. That's not true so I I did wear a suit one day and it's a little bit too big to fit under a Properly sized cuff. So I wore my triumph that day. I Think you can pull that off. I mean you could pull it off But it's just the way I have my suits tailored to fit like a grown-up. It won't fit It actually is kind of uncomfortable wear it over your jacket up. So I Um, yeah, put it on leather and wear it over the jacket. Do the, it's got the diver extension. Oh God. Yeah. That's a thing. There was a fashion guide. Um, but I hated it. But Andrew, I have been, I've been wearing this thing more or less constantly and it's really good. I gotta say, man, a week and a couple of days. You're like seven, eight days. Yes, I got it on Tuesday of Okay, so, so it's been 10 days, week and a half. Yeah. I think this thing is just, I think it's just terrific. I think I'd agree with you. I'm, I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit blown away at just how good it is, you know, because I've worn a lot of Seiko in the past. You know, I had my Saab and I got an SKX, obviously, the the quality on this thing is, you know, the Saab punches in above its weight class, blah, blah, blah. And I think that at some point, that was true. I'm not sure that's true today. day not anymore not by a long shot um but not post like 2020 2021 still pretty nice still pretty nice but this is just so much better than that in in in a way that it's a little hard for me to describe you know finishing and fit and finish uh i i don't have any misalignment on mine at least as far as i can tell The bracelet is interesting. I really like the bracelet the clasp is big But it operates really well The diver extension is not good. I don't really get it bad. I think is maybe an acceptable Critique, but the bracelet itself. It's a little bit of a chunky bracelet The tapers like all of nothing No, I think it's got a two. I think it's a 20 to 18 taper on this thing. It's fine. It doesn't bother me. It's the same bitch I had about the original Christopher Ward bracelets. There's no real taper to it. I'm okay with this. I would rather a four millimeter taper, but I'm okay with it. It's just not, I think that the bracelet is where they could really make this an exceptional watch. It is very, very good, really good. But I think if this had a bracelet like Porahemplo, the Christopher Ward, C60, or something of that ilk, or, you know, look at Manta or Formex, or maybe not Formex, but well, maybe. I mean, there are companies that are doing, you know, of course, or Tudor. or Omega who are doing 42 millimeter watches, 40 millimeter watches with good taper and balanced bracelets. I would say that those watches are in a different class, but Seiko makes watches in that price range and the bracelets are still not as good. So I know, it's just that Seiko's not gonna do bracelets in a way that's gonna make everybody happy, but that continue, I mean, of course, it's a cheap shot, it's a low-hanging fruit, but I do wish Maybe not the bracelet, though. I'm fine with the bracelet. Will's review of this watch, he complains about the lug-to-case connection, and I understand why, but I'm okay with it. I actually really like it. But in particular, the clasp. The bracelet's fine, the clasp leaves something to be desired. That's my one regert about this watch. And we're also talking about a $1,200 watch that I can see as a direct competitor to somebody who doesn't like the Pelagos. Sure. Right. Right. Which is, which is two or three X more. Yeah. Um, and I look at that watch and I'm like, man, that has all the things that Pelagos has. that it won't, it's not titanium, it doesn't have a helium release valve, sure it's not a thousand meters of water resistance, but the design, the chunk, the tool, like this is a direct competitor to DOXA, the entire line, this is a direct competitor, I think really honestly to the, even the Pelagos, it has that same Yeah, I maybe don't think it's a direct competitor to the Pelagos, but I think you might be inclined to look at both of them if you were looking to buy a dive watch. Yeah, yeah. This is certainly in the conversation of a really well-built, north end of affordable. Yeah. I'm really, I'm really, really happy with this watch. I have, um, I have just very few complaints. Like I said, the clasp is maybe the main one, but outside of that, I just, every time I look down and I'm like, Ooh, Ooh, Hey, Hey you. I'm glad you got it. Cause it was, it was on it, like kind of in my, uh, site picture of getting like a prospect diver. You having it, super dig it. It's not quite what I'm looking for. So I'm able to. You're able to move on from it. I'm able to kind of separate it. I don't have a good answer for, well, the class for one is like an absolute non-starter for me. And I know it's like, you're good with it, big pass. I have something in I have something incoming that I think you're going to be. I think you are going to like. I'm going to make you wait to tell you what it is. But I think you're going to like it. I'm not your freak. I got something incoming to Andrew when he kick us off. We got some watches to talk about. We've been talking about watches, man. That's true. I want to talk about a watch that I don't know the last time. I know we talked about one of Jacquez, Jacquez? One of Jacques Bianchi's watches before. I don't remember which one, and I wasn't going to sort through all of the notes to figure out which one we talked about, but we have a new release in the JB for Jacques Bianchi, 200 Aqua Strike Collection. And this is a 42 millimeter dive watch that has every single familiar design motif that you can imagine, kind of packaged up in its own way. Like everything about it, you're like, Oh, I see where this came from. I see where this came from. Oh, I kind of see how they interpreted this and made their own variety of it. Um, most notably the color ways, there's going to be the first thing you notice. Um, but I, I kind of dig these, these are a, Oh, re-release or a re-interpretation of a of the JB 200s that were issued to French Navy divers in the 1980s. and they don't feel that updated. They still feel like 1980s dive watches that are kinda in this awkward, I don't really know what to do with myself, so I'm just gonna smash it all together feel with some bright colors. There's this, there's a kind of reddish orange, like tending towards brick. a really good yellow, a really good green, like a very bright, not foresty. What are we going to call that green? Kelly Green is what I would call it. Yeah. And then and then her her blue, you know, the lady, the lady blue, perhaps. What's the other name for that? Tiffany. Oh, yeah, that's the one. It's not quite a Tiffany. It's bluer than a Tiffany. Only just yeah only just if somebody called the Tiffany blue everyone would accept. Yeah, I'm actually okay You know people give it all as another Tiffany blah blah blah But this is in a collection and it makes a lot of sense in the collection. So I'm in this pastel very Easter II Colorway, how did these are not path that pastel? These are perfectly saturated. They're set but that you get what I mean these bright Easter colors I I dig this and so as I'm looking at this, I'm like, oh, it's going to be crazy expensive too. It's not. So for a 200 meter, 42 millimeter dive watch, 825 euros plus, um, 125% Yeah, I think something like that tax With a soft road movement. I mean a so proud movement. These are a great value. Yes, they really are and and they're just different enough to not be a rip of anything to not be a Oh, you couldn't buy the real thing and they make every single design decision that went into this is something, you know How much is the JB200? So we've talked, so I think the last one... Was it the 200 that we talked about last? The last one was the, I think they called it the Maragraph, which was essentially a JB200 and had that blue dial with like the, the rings around it. The 200 is the Destro. Yeah, we talked about the Marograph which very cool watch I'm on the website No, no, they're they're all sold out. So I think that's the thing they're making Bianchi still making watches and they still don't have a huge supply chain. So I think that's kind of where we get with this brand. We do talk about that when they come out, but these watches are significantly less expensive than prior releases we've seen. This is really an affordable watch and it's probably not as nice either. I mean, that would be my guess. It doesn't look as nice, but I don't mean that as a dig. It looks like the, the SKX of the eighties, right? Like they're not the, the, I don't think it's unfair. I mean, it's sort of like an EPSA. It's sort of like an EPSA case, right? Or, uh, Yeah, no, I mean, I'm really okay with this, not an upset case. Yeah, I think this is a really cool watch. Jack Bianchi is a really cool company. I'm a little sad that we don't have a scuba dude on the dial. I don't love the fonts. I got a scuba dude shirt. I love that shirt. You saw that last time we recorded. We might've even talked about it. I don't love the fonts. I don't love the font on the bezel. I don't love the four on the 40. Oh, I actually kind of hate the four on the 40. The three on the 30. I don't like, I think the font on the dial looks cheap. I think like the automatic font, it's so. As a font guy? I don't know man, this looks like pure 80s outside of the bezel. The dial looks like pure 80s. It doesn't mean the fonts are good. The bezel font, no, nothing was good in the 80s. Nothing. Everyone had a mustache. But the font on the bezel, it does leave some wanting, even the one. The two is okay. The zero is fine. It is a, um, it is a value proposition. It's a cool company. I like it when I love the, like the marker reflection on the, uh, on the chapter ring inside the case. So even at like a, even an angle with the dome, you get, you still get a good read on the marker. Yeah. Yeah, it's high legibility, good colors. I wish there was a black and a white, right? Yeah, but I understand if you're only making probably 200 watches. You know, Andrew, sorry to go back to my SBB 143. Oh, here we go. The gray dial on this, the dark gray dial on this makes me think a dark gray dial might be the perfect everyday. You're also wearing a gray dial diver watch today. But I'm wearing a much richer gray. It's a less dark, like the black tone is a lot less on your gray. But I still, I'm like increasingly like, yeah, this is the way. I love gray dial. Gray dial. I, um, I told you I wouldn't buy. I love lamp. Um, I, even the gray you picked for the foster, I didn't like that. I have the one off that I did like that I voted for him was you slurped because not you slurped overridden, uh, because I had no stake. Uh, my, my voice was, uh, insufficiently valuable. So I got the dial that I wanted. Thank you. Um, I got a watch that I'd like to talk about. Hmm. Furlan, Furlan Mari? It's one of these that I feel uncomfortable with, man. Furlan Mari, right? We say everything wrong. That's not true. I think we say most things right unless we're trying to say them wrong. Evret is how his name is actually pronounced. I've been calling him my good friend Everett for 20 years. Evret is how we say it. Like Yvette, but the boy version. Yeah. And of course we have made some mistakes and people have told us about those mistakes. but oh the most recent one uh luke luke albert's g-shock extraordinaire wrote me with sort of uh like i'm so embarrassed for you uh i see good thing someone was we were we were saying squalor I don't know why I say that. I must have heard someone say that. Is it squale? It's Italian, so it's squale. I've never heard it said Squalay. And I'm not saying Luke's wrong. I assume he's right. He sent me a video of the owner talking about Squalay. Fuck that guy. He doesn't know what he's talking about. And I was like, okay, that's fair, right? I've said all manner of shit. So Squalay, I've always heard Squala. I knew for sure it wasn't Squale, though I do prefer Squale, which shall henceforth and forever be how I say the brand. So Furlanmari released, so it's their fourth anniversary. Did you, did you know that? I only, because of this article, I didn't realize that four years had gone by. It really does feel like it was just, yeah. Anyway, just 200 episodes ago, we were talking about their first inaugural watch. So they've released their four year anniversary watch and I'm going to, I'm gonna, so, Furlanmari, obviously, they've got a vibe, they've got a style, they're kinda doing their own thing, which I think, by and large, very good. I think this watch, also very good. This is a very, very, very vintage-looking, what are we gonna call this? Are we going to call this a California? It's not California. It's not California. I don't know. So to me, like an art deco field. right like maybe an art deco this looks like a watch that that could have been made in 1966 right or 1924 yeah i'm thinking i'm thinking more recent but maybe like 40s maybe 50s but bigger it's a 36 millimeter beautiful black dial three-hand watch that's got a sector dial that has both printing and texture. It's got Roman numerals at the cardinals, but they're set in. So you've got a prominent minute track on the outside. with numbers at the five minute marks. And then inside of that, you've got a separate hour ring, which is really sensical and really attractive. Beautiful handset. I'm gonna say sword hands, but that doesn't do them justice. We're not gonna describe them. Go fucking look. They're beveled in a way that you've not seen a sword hand beveled before. or if you have, it's because you've seen whatever inspiration this came from. One of the most simple and gorgeous seconds hands I've ever seen. Love the long balance on it. Um this is oh okay so so what they're calling this is the red hunter and I understand a hunter is like an officer's watch and that makes sense that this would be an officer's watch. I was thinking it's something that like pursued game with them. we've got 36 millimeters by 44 long you're just gonna you're gonna just breeze past the like melted markers into the step that's right so the markers come down into the step dial and the the roman numeral markers melt is a great word they sort of melt off of that stepped out into the air. It is really cool. I saw this, this like top down picture of this watch and I was like, what the fuck is going on? I love it. Yeah. So my, the first thing I noticed when I looked at this, well, the first thing I noticed when I looked at this watch from kind of a, maybe like a three-foot view, was the exceptionally long lugs. This thing is like 30% lug. The lug-to-lug, that 44-millimeter lug-to-lug, like a solid 13 of those millimeters are lugs. Pure lug, yes. It's the longest end link ever, ever machined. So that was the first thing I noticed. And then the second thing I noticed is as I was going through the specs, 11.6. And I was like, that doesn't make sense. 11.6 doesn't make sense. Well, what are we doing here? We're getting fat. So, and that is because a Hunter watch has a case back that flips open to give you a view of or at least this Hunter, to give you a view of the movement. So you've got a Sapphire case back, but that's covered by an additional case back. Like a pocket watch functionality. Why do you want this? It's a Reverso. I don't know. I don't know why you want this. But I can also say, I don't know why I want this, but I do want this. I want this. Also, it's not enough room in that case back for a dime bag, but there is enough room in that case back for an eight ball. Yeah. Right. And you do like to party. I want this watch. Um, and do you know what? You could get this watch. You could. Because it's under 2,000 American money. Because it's under 2,000 bucks. $1,830 available for pre-order. 100 meters of water resistance, full stainless steel. Big ass, like beautiful flat crown. LJPG 100, which is a 68 hour movement, 28.8 that is a plus or minus seven, I think. It's not chronometer certified. Um, This thing is terrific. This is so cool, and it really looks like a vintage watch. But it's not. It's not. And it's not... It is functionally a brand new watch. Everything about it looks brand new. When you get close to any single element of this watch, and I mean the crown, the case sides, the bracelet, the links on the bracelet, the dial, even the fucking lugs. If you zoom in on any single element of this watch, it looks like a brand new creation. But then if you back up to three feet, It looks like a watch made 50 years ago. This thing is fucking cool. 60 years ago, probably. This thing is rad, dude. It's really good. It's the first watch of theirs, and I think it's because it's the first one that has a bracelet available. Yeah, that I'm like, okay, it's a beautiful bracelet. It's it's a really good bracelet. It's it's a it's like a Jubilee layout, but with beads of rice links. Yes. And it's really good. I'm Andrew. They they hit it. It's a yes for black lacquered dial. Beautiful. The tile is something crazy. You guys. Yeah. The only is so OK. So can we complain about one thing? I don't love the texture of the bracelet to the texture of the watch. It's a little harsh. We've got brushed and polished on the bracelet. Pure polished on. It's better than, they needed a way to transition. There's no segue from the mid case to the bracelet. There's not, but the steps on the bezel, they make up for it. Is that $1,800 watch, which of course that's not cheap, okay? So we know we got it. But you're getting every lick of $1,800 of value out of that. I gotta think so, yeah. Just with a lacquered dial alone, you're paying 1,800 bucks. The movement is insane looking, beautiful Geneva stripe, bronze coated rotor, blued screws. The creativity of these stepped indices at your cardinal directions is just, it's one of the, The only thing that I've seen that I liked more was the GMT hand running under The floating markers. It's it's actually got a foreign rose gold coating. Yeah, I'm a roader Yeah, tungsten with 4n coating cuz why not? Yeah, you're this is maybe one of the best values of of the year. And, and, and will probably remain so. The case back is polished, so you can engrave it if you want. Neat. Yeah. Don't care. Oh, I think a lot of people care about that. I mean, I probably wouldn't engrave a case back, but maybe this thing's great, dude. This kind of a sleeper. Like when I, I actually scrolled past this a couple of times as I was looking at watches. Cause like me, me and then I like open it up and I was like, Oh no, I saw that, that depth in that dial. And I was like, Ooh, I'm intrigued. That's cool. Yeah. So yeah, they call it an officer's case back. I like hunters better. This is terrific. I want to talk about something boring real quick so we can move on to something more exciting. We haven't talked about the PRX rose gold yet. PRX and PVD rose gold. It's 900 bucks. And it looks cool shit. This is really good. It's got the hobnail dial. Andrew, is it a black dial or is it blue? It's blue. Yeah. That's terrific. It's like, and I think it, I think it's going to, would probably be a really fun blue to wear. Um, like very much like that Monta blue that goes from black to blue based on the, on your light reflection. And it's lovely, right? I mean, I think the PRX is one of the coolest watches in a generation. Yeah. Um, and they're doing maybe too much with it, but you kind of have to write, uh, Yeah. No, it's, it's great. That PVD rose gold available with blue 900 bucks, a little boring, but also, I mean, it's, it's maybe my favorite one. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Honestly, maybe me too. Yeah. I've never seen, I've never seen a PRX. that I was like, I think I like this one until this one. This is, and not like I like, but like. I want it. I kind of want that. Yeah. Until this one. That blue is terrific. And I've never seen rose gold that I'm like, ooh, you could be for me. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to buy it because I've just never wore it. It would be one of those watches that I was like, I like this, but then I would have trouble selling it because I suck at selling watches. And I just wouldn't work. But. But it would hold a position of honor in my watch box. I really have to sell watches, Andrew. I don't know how to do it. Nothing you own is worth anything. I don't know how to do it. No, I mean, I probably have, I have some money there. I started counting dollars and I was like. Yeah, your Speedmaster could fetch some money. No, I don't have to sell anything I love. And I have some, I still have some money. I was just, I don't think you know how many watches I have. I do, you leave your back door unlocked a lot. I have 65 watches. Yeah, I know. How did that happen? Yeah. And some of them are born like three times. Yep. Okay, notice, our boys at Notice, Wes and Colin, have once again hooked up with Steve Laughlin from Raven Watches to make a second iteration of the Trail Trekker. So the original Trail Trekker. That's maybe the best collaboration, like brand collaboration. It's perfect. Ever in history. Yeah, the first time I met Steve was in Long Beach with Wes and Colin. And he did not like Everett. I don't think that's true. Oh, I just assumed. And, and you know, I maybe have talked about this on the show before, but he shows up, he's wearing a Marine Master, like an OG Marine Master. And he's not, I think he was two-wristing it. Or maybe he was just one, and it doesn't matter. But he's one wrist? He's wearing a Marine Master, and he's just like, he's just a dude. He's a bro. Steve Laughlin's a bro. He's got like no pretense, and we start talking about watches, and we start talking about his watches, and we start talking about, you know, the one thing he, the only like watch preference he said to me was like, I just want bigger watches. I'm a child of the 90s and I just want bigger watches. I want watches that are really well made and that feel really timeless, but I want them to be bigger. I don't want a 38mm watch. I want a bigger watch. It makes sense. When you look at the Raven catalog, obviously Raven's got some smaller watches. And this watch, the Trail Trekker, actually is not a teeny tiny watch. This is, or it's not a huge watch. It's only 39 and a half. It's a 39, but you can also see this is like, it's just kind of a beefcake, right? It's only 11 eight thick. They released the clay, Trail Trekker, I want to say last year or two years ago, which was sort of inspired by the Gold Coast. This year, they're releasing the Arctic Circle Trail or ACT Trail Trekker, which is inspired by an Arctic Circle trek through Greenland. And it is unsurprisingly, a crispy white dial that's co-branded, Raven at six, Notice at 12, with Trail Trekker also at 12. It's got a big date window at six o'clock, which I think maybe puts some people off, and then all of the sizes of markers. It's got a triangle, it's got some squares, it's got a pentagon thing at three and nine. Good fonts. This is just a 9075 movement, which has the independently adjustable hour hand. It's 11.8 thick. It's a 40 by 20 watch. 20 to 16 taper. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Good trade taper on this. Yeah. Great. Great bracelet. My one polished twisted lugs. My one dislike. The crispy white GMT hand. Well, it's like a blue. It's like a It's it's like a Easter Egg blue. Yeah, but yeah, it's you know, it's hard It's hard to see against the dial. Yeah Hill. Oh you get the loom and then it is perhaps one of the most legible watches that's ever been created. And I'm okay with this, Andrew. I'm okay with a GMT hand being low contrast. I think GMT hands are oftentimes high contrast. I want a little, I want, cause people use them for a pop. Yeah. And that's what you're saying. You want that, but I'm okay with the GMT hand being low contrast. I'm okay with this. I'm okay with low contrast. I, but I don't want to have to look for it. Do you really think? Oh, okay. Uh, and the clay, I think had sort of like an olive drab and a, like a, a orange. Find the GMT hand. I can see it right there. Cause you're looking at the same fucking picture. But in reality, that's not gonna happen, Andrew. You're gonna put your watches right here when you look at it. It's like, oh, hi, there you are. Whenever people talk about- I don't wear glasses. I don't have to bring my watch within eight inches of my face. Whenever people talk about legibility, I'm like, shut up. I don't even set my watch. Get out of here. Yeah, I can attest to not even setting watches. If it's a hand crank that that bitch will be on his wrist for days and not wound. Oh, yeah There was a reddit thread about a week ago Someone said what complicated, you know, what don't you care about? What specification don't you care about? And that's what I said. I wanted to comment. I said legibility. I just don't care. I Really don't care. One of my favorite watches is like one of the most illegible watches of all time. That's right. That's right and then someone came in and he was like he's like I I can't remember what he said. He was like, what's the point if you can't even see it? I'm like, bro, I can see it. I can see it. Like how fucking stupid do you have to be? Like, I don't know. It makes me think of all these like haute horology watches. They're like have no markers. Fuck off. I think that's why we like the Meistersinger, right? Cause it's like, I know what time it is actually turns out. I just need you. Oh, it's, it's 20, not 15 and I'm five minutes late. Got it. Cause I actually fucking know what time it is. Cause I live in a world that's structured by Yeah, well, and that like the reason I like to have a I'm okay with low contrast, but I prefer a high contrast GMT hand is because I don't go to the three hands. I go right to my 24 hour because I'm not somebody who's okay being five minutes late. So I live my world in like 30 minute to hour increments. I'm like, okay, I need to be there at 1230. It's 10 minutes away. I need to leave at 10. and I will be on time. And I'm comfortable with that level of flex for my personal time. So I want a little bit more contrast, because I use my 24-hour hand more than I use my three hands. $875, started shipping on April 18th, so you can get them now. They're shipping now. And it's a trail tracker, right? Great dimensions, great watch. those twisted lugs. So the first one was blasted, fully blasted, and this one has a brushed and blasted combo, or a brushed and polished combo, with those twisted lugs, semi-twisted lugs being polished on the outer flank. And it is, this is a much, much different watch than the OG Trail Trekker. And this thing's fucking rad. Sorry, we didn't talk about the polished, the difference. We talked about it now. We talked about it now. Yeah, we got there. Okay. What's next? Oh, um, talk about that, that, uh, ox, oak, oak and junior. No, you, that's what your pick. You picked it. I see it on your list. Are you sure? Oh yeah, I did pick it too, but it was among the overlaps. I was going to talk about another quick, boring thing that I just, I wanted to mention. We don't have time for boring things. Okay. Um, You wanted me to talk about it because you just don't want to have to say this. Yeah, that's right. You're not wrong. OK, so I want so we've got a new watch from Oak and Junior two time zones. and a date. And I gotta say, there's a lot of pictures of this watch out there. And they're all the press kit releases that are all really lovely pictures. We don't know how to say oak, by the way. It's ox. It's O-C-H-S? We don't know how to say that word. That's not English. So don't yell. Don't even DM us. Just leave it alone, okay? and make sense. Those are, those are noises. I make sense. Yeah. Um, and junior. So I looked down at this dial and it's, it's a really novel, really interesting dial that frankly I can't read and it's not because it's not in English. It's because it is using, um, just design elements that are, smarter than me, right? There's like some jumping hour components with kind of like a fill in the blank, which I assume is maybe for something, a rotating kind of compass feel over the hours. You know what really got me excited about this watch and why it's on my list? Look at these lugs and this case shape. It's this beautiful circle with a rounded top bezel with these tiny little squat, beautifully square, maybe three and a half millimeter long lugs. and they are just fantastic. This watch reminded me of Lincoln Logs with the combination of this beautiful brown dial that's right where my head went. It went right to playing with Lincoln Logs like as a kid right to playing with Lincoln Logs with my kids and I was like man I fucking love this watch. I don't care if it won't tell me the time because I don't know how to set it. I just loved the like the emotional response that this design created in me. And I'm still not super sure, I read the article, still not super sure how to read it. So it's a 42 millimeter case, brushed grade five titanium. Excuse me, I was outside so I've got allergies. 12.5 thick. It's a brown PVD coated dial. And it's just as cool as it gets. A Ulysses Nardin movement. expensive 7,500 Swiss francs, including only 8.1% VAT. Yeah. I mean, it's not, it's not crazy. It's not a crazy amount. So, so Oaks and Junior is made, it has made all of their watches have a really sort of similar aesthetic, right? It's not quite Bauhaus, but it is like, Bauhaus like modern Bauhaus what the fuck like with a little bit of like funk Like yeah, like Bauhaus it got kicked out the house. Yeah. Yeah, right like yeah, yeah dinner parties at Oaken juniors get weird I go to his parties, I mean, just for no other reason. So the GMT complication on this is really cool. So you've got a single hour hand, and the single hour hand gives you both the local time and the travel time, the second time zone. And the way it does that is it's got, the hour hand is actually like an open triangle. And that open triangle has a tip at the end. The tip at the end of the open triangle points to your local time. And then that open space hovers above a disc that has a 12-hour countdown, or all 12 numbers inside of it. So as the hour hand turns, it both points in a direction for local time. So you can see it's pointing due west. It's nine o'clock. but it also hovers over a number on that disc, and the disc rotates. So you can change it to set your offset. So you can look and say, oh, well, it's pointing due west, so it's nine o'clock, but also it's hovered over the five o'clock, so it's five o'clock. Nine and five. And honestly, Andrew, It is more intuitive, I think, for me, for my brain, it's a more intuitive display. It's much easier for me to quickly, there's always like a moment of calculation I have to do when I'm using a GMT. especially a 24 hour GMT. I'm always like, okay, so that means it's, okay, it's seven o'clock in that other place, right? Oh, you're doing a non 24 hour conversion. Sure, right? There's always like a bit of calculation I have to do. Here, there's no calculation. It's nine o'clock and it's five o'clock at home. And that's it, right? It's rad. It's, it's a super cool readout. It's a beautiful watch. Andrew's right. The case on this thing is like nothing else you've ever seen. It wouldn't work great if you were at like in like Las Vegas where you never see the outside. So you don't know if it's morning or night. Fair enough. You know, it doesn't have an AM PM indicator. Uh, 31, the, the 31 holes are long. The outside of the dial are your date indicators with a rotating, uh, color matched PIP to fill that for your date. The, the only wrinkle with that is, um, you kind of count them. Like, if you just look briefly, you get ballpark. Sure. I win the first quarter of the month. I have to imagine over time that would become easier. Don't you think? I'm not smart, dude. Sure. Like, if I'm not wearing a date window watch, I don't know what day it is. Yeah, no, that's fair. I wear a 5600 at work because the day and date matter. And that's why I wear that watch, because I can look at it and be like, okay, it's Sunday the 19th. I didn't know tomorrow was Easter, for Christ's sake. I thought it was next week. Yeah. I like got some Easter eggs when I went grocery shopping, like some plastic ones. My wife's like, do you have plans for that? And I was like, yeah, I was going to get some candy or something. She was like, tonight? No, like sometime this week. She's like. We're going to need them sooner than that. After Easter? I was like, what do you mean? Tomorrow's Easter, you dummy. Oh, I guess I will go to the Walmart tonight. Yeah, no, I don't. My life is just it's it's it. I don't know. It's weird. I don't care about when it is. Yeah, well, at least day by day. So Singer, Singer, the company that makes restored Porsches, also makes watches. They're expensive and they're always really cool. It's a California company. They may, I think we talked about it on the show, but they have their track one chronograph. They're really, so Singer's a weird company, right? Because they're not a watchmaker. But they make good watches. but they make really, really interesting watches. I'm not prepared to say they make good watches, because I don't, A, don't know enough about Singer and Singer's watch production, and B, don't know enough about watches to say, oh, this is good. But what I can say... I think if you're going to be doing this... What I can say is they make really interesting watches. They've just released maybe their least interesting watch ever, but it's the first one that I was like, okay, okay, I, ooh, I kinda want it. I'm not gonna get it, because I can't afford it. They have a bunch of restored, new OS, new old stock, Valjoux 236, hand-wound, column wheel, chronographed for calibers. And Singer's sort of- I need to start buying Swiss shipping containers at auction. Just in the hopes that I get a bunch of new old stock, like Valjoux movements. That's right. Because that's sort of what it seems like is happening. Like, oh, we have 500 new old stock 7750s. What can we do? I want to own those 7750s and then sell them to somebody. Sometimes companies will do this and I'm like, all right, that's neat. That's neat. But for Singer, it makes a lot of sense. And here's why. Singer takes old, air-cooled Porsches and they restore them, but they don't just restore them, they do restomods, right? So they restore them but also make them better better modern so they take the antiquated bits and make them modern and so you get this classic vintage car that in some ways many ways perhaps is going to feel and drive and operate like a much more modern machine it's all it's not going to feel like a brand new camry right and it's probably hope not and it's probably not going to be it actually probably will feel like a brand new camera. It's probably not going to be as fast as a brand new camera, but it's going to it's going to feel and operate much more like a new car than if you bought a meticulously and faithfully restored nine eleven. So Taking these old, taking these old Valjoux 236 movements for me, I think makes a lot of sense. So what's the watch? This is probably the least interesting watch. It's a two register, two pusher chronograph, and that's it, right? This is just a two register, six, nine chronograph, but Then you get close and you're like, oh, that's interesting, and that's interesting, and that, oh, that's interesting. It's got a gold fluted bezel that is underneath the crystal and draws your attention. So it's a steel watch. Brush tops. You've got a polished chamfer. It's got beautiful pushers. They look like something that would be on vintage sort of mm-hmm high-end automobile it's it's got this and they look like open pistons they look like open pistons it's got this gorgeous very flat fluted crown that it's probably the shortest crown the actual crown area because it's huge right it's like a seven millimeter crown but it's pancaked mm-hmm and I love it I'm not getting purchase on that crown We've got gold coated markers at the hours and this big prominent gold. Can I say Chinaman hat that covers the post? I think it's China hat. Um, I don't know what else you call that. There's probably a name for that shape. Um, conical, but sure. A conical disc that covers the post. That's fair. Andrew. I'm not, I'm not an asshole. We've got orange loom in these sword hands. I think this thing is terrific. Now, it's a singer. It's not cheap. They have both a black dial and a green dial. As far as I can tell, they're exactly the same. That second hand is... I think the green's better. You're not hearing it from me, but the green's better. I'd probably lean towards the black, but we've got a... The movement is fully visible through a full width. Sapphire case back and it is a gorgeous movement. It's marked restored by singer Which I think is fun Yeah this thing is These are really cool There's sixteen thousand seven hundred before that Sixteen thousand seven hundred francs before that twenty grand before you paid one hundred and twenty three percent taxes 38 eight with an 11.75 millimeters, which is wild. It's a great size. It's a great size. And that includes a glass box crystal.
Andrew Yeah.
Everett These things are so they could say empire green or piano black. These things are beautiful. Absolutely lovely, lovely watch. They're limited to 100 pieces each. Uh, so get them while they're hot and then send us a couple. Lovely watch. Uh, again, not going to buy it cause it's outside of my price range and buy something else with that money. But if you just, if you're a Porsche guy or you fuck, if you have a singer, if you fucking have a, why aren't you a patron and be by this watch? This thing's cool, man. It is really, really, really cool. Watch. Uh, Andrew, I feel like it's an okay place to end. We're an hour. Hold on. Let's just go through and make sure. Look, we got some new colors from Doxa that are exclusive to, uh, exquisite time pieces. The colors are cool. Yeah. Uh, Yema came out with a, yeah, we should maybe save that. Oh, okay. Well, let's save it, but I'm going to put out a question. I'm going to put out a question to people because I spent a lot of time trying to figure this out. And by that, I mean, at least 20 minutes, I was going to say four. Ah, minutes. So last year, Yema released their Skin Diver Slim CMM 2.0. So that's the in-house Yema caliber. They released the thin version of this watch. and it's thinner. So I wanna say that this is 11 and a half plus the crystal, and that that one was 10 and a half plus the crystal. And when we talked about that on the show, I said this slim, this thing is fucking awesome. 2,200 bucks or 2,300 bucks. They've just released the Yema Skin Diver, CMM .20. As far as I can tell, It is the same as the slim, except that it's thicker and then it's more money. So the slim was limited. You can still buy them. This is unlimited. It's thicker and it costs more money. It has to be in manufacturing. I don't understand. So if you know, reach out to me this week. Let me know and we'll talk about it next week. Okay. Okay. Uh, did I already say too much? Yeah. Uh, Alpine Eagle released a bunch of new variations. It's not the same, but every time I hear Alpine Eagle, I think of Canyon Arrow from the Simpson. Oh, see, I always think of Canyon Arrow. I always think of the Eagle's Nest. Uh, and have we ever talked about Canyon Arrow on the show? Not until now. All right. Delma released a new watch that's cool. Brellum released a new watch that's cool. Not talking about it though. Solstice. Oh yeah. Solstice watches revival automatic. It's an $800 micro brand watch from a company that's made shitty watches in the past and it looks really cool. We're not going to talk about it. I don't know enough. It's Kickstarter. Take a look though. Which always gives me some pause. This watch is interesting. I read something by the maker of this watch, and he was like, when I started doing this, I was selling shitty quartz watches so I could make a buck and make the watch I really wanted, and they didn't sell and I lost a bunch of money. And so that didn't work out, so I just spent all my money to make this watch. and I went all in, and this is the last chance. It's called The Revival because he's trying to revive the brand. And I was like, this is an interesting story. So that's what we're going to talk about. Solstice Revival Automatic. Google it. It's a Kickstarter watch. And it's a watch we're not going to talk about again. And it looks really good. It does. It looks really good. I'd be curious to hear y'all's thoughts. It is very much a watch that looks like other watches, which doesn't make it bad. Uh, it, yeah. It's a Chopek, Christopher Ward 12, perhaps PRX. It's very, it's very similar to those watches. It's a 70s inspired sport watch, integrated bracelet. Yeah, I think we can, I think. I think that's maybe a little bit unfair, but it's also. Got a really cool dial. It does. I'm not wild about the fonts, but, but look, just Google it, just Google it. Andrew, other things, what do you got? Okay. So this is a show that I kind of lost sight of for a couple years, Black Mirror. We've talked about this show maybe before. So season seven came out about two weeks ago. I was three seasons behind, because I just like, I don't know, it kind of lost me for a little while. And Netflix does binge releases, so it's like you get a new season and you watch it over the course of a couple weeks maybe, or if you're like me and you have a problem, you watch it over a couple of days. And then you're just without it for a year and then it comes back and you've maybe lost interest or you're binging something else anyway, I Saw the tile new episodes and I started scrolling back to the last episode that I watched and I was like Nice we've got some material to consume. Season seven was fantastic. And with every other anthology series, everything is so different, which makes it kind of jarring when you're binge watching it, right? Because you're going from like futuristic sci-fi to weird kind of like retro sci-fi. But with that underlying, where's the technology? Sure. theme gonna hit here?"And that was the lens through which I watched that. I have had a problem with Black Mirror where I insert elements and plot points from other episodes into the episode I'm watching, especially if I'm binging. But carry on, sorry. But that was the lens I decided to watch season seven through, um, was like, where is the technology bit going to happen? Like where, where's the thing? And, and looking for that, you kind of get these really good precursors, um, really big, like, I won't say a list actors, but people, you know, in, in a lot of these episodes, um, I think a list is fair. maybe have been on the A-list. I watched that Jesse Plumman's episode from, what, it was season one? with a Star Trek episode? No, they just, there's another one. Another Jesse Plemons episode? Yes, in this current season. Oh my gosh, I haven't seen it yet. Don't tell me, don't tell me. It's so good. I went back and watched the old one with my daughter recently, and I was like, God, this guy is maybe the best actor in Hollywood. But anyway, keep going. He could be. He's terrific. But he doesn't make sense. He's like fat Ben Affleck. Or like skinny Jim Gaffigan, like no one really knows where he fits. He's terrific. He's married to Kristen Dunst. I did know that and I don't get it. Anyway, this whole season was absolutely fantastic. Like I had no issue with the jarring changes in era feel vibe from episode to episode. And I was just like, next, next, next, like give me more of this kind of, I don't know, Black Mirror's just kind of troubling, because so much of it's like, oh, this could be a thing. Yeah, it's unsettling. Very little of Black Mirror is totally out of the realm of... It's Twilight Zone, man. Of like tomorrow technology, right? So my 10 year old, we got him an Apple watch this week or he's not 10, but he's turned 10 next month. Uh, we got him an Apple watch this week because with him being able to be home alone and like going places without us, we wanted to give him the available, like the functionality of, looking on our phone, where the fuck are you? And you can call us, text us, like you can have some agency in your own life. And there's an entire episode in the season about this like parental control and involvement thing. And, and this is all like, this is happening concurrently in my life. And I was like, I'm like, well, I'm managing parental controls on his watch of like, you can talk to these people and these people only. And if somebody else tries to text you, it's going to go to my phone. And then we're going to have an interesting interaction. Yeah. He texted Kim. It was pretty cute. He texted everyone. So he has 12 people, I think in his, in his available contact. He didn't text me. You're in it. Oh fucker. I told him to tell you to text you sup bitch and you would immediately know who it was. He clearly didn't because he's just sitting on the couch and he does the voice to text on it. So I think he maybe didn't want to say sup bitch into his wrist. I would have known who it was. While mom is sitting on the couch. But everyone's emergency contacts, except for my sister, because my sister lives in Portland and like, though would be a really appropriate emergency contact, just isn't. So she's like his fun contact and they've been texting back and forth today, which is really cute. But anyway, I'm like managing parental controls while watching this episode on parental controls where you get this implant put in your kid and you can see from like, through their eyes on your little iPad device. And it was, I don't know, I think the older I get, the less, because I'm a curmudgeon anyway, the less I like technology. Like I tantrum left a group chat this week because it was going off and it was supposed to be silenced, but I couldn't silence it. So I just fucking left. Um, and I like, uh, so black mirror is like just really resonating more and more with me, like the deeper it gets. Uh, but the new season is out and it is really fantastic. It lost me for a couple of seasons I think because of like it kind of weird. It got like maybe two sci-fi. We'll have to check it out. But definitely definitely take a peek catch up on that on the episodes because it was Jesse Plemons was fantastic I was also I also was watching mythic quest This isn't my other thing but watching mythic quest on Apple TV and then the Jesse Plemons episode I would like it was funny to see like the How they could so easily Make that jump into into that world. It's cool. But yeah, Jesse Plemons was fantastic So I think you are the one who got me to watch Yellowstone, correct? probably And this show. I really enjoyed Yellowstone. I haven't watched any of the new season. Okay, wait. I really enjoyed Yellowstone, but Yellowstone for me did a sort of Sons of Anarchy thing, right? Where it just over time was like, All right, I get it. There's enough drama running a cattle ranch. You don't need to create drama for drama's sake. I get it. I get it. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was really well made. I thought the acting was good, but I did, it did wear me out eventually. A few years ago, maybe last year, they released a show, a spinoff show called 1883 and it had Tim McGraw and Faith Hill. It had Sam Elliott. It was, Interesting. And I didn't love it. I didn't love 1883. Correct. I thought Tim McGraw and Faith Hill were borderline unwatchable. And not everybody shares that opinion. Not everybody shares that opinion. In fact, a lot of people really, really like 1883. I enjoyed it. They were just the wrong pick. I thought it wasn't great. And so when my wife showed me the tile for the new spinoff, 1923, obviously 40 years later in the Dutton Ranch saga, I was not pumped, Andrew. I was just like, I'm kind of over this whole world. I'm over the Yellowstone world. And she was like, well, let's just watch a couple of episodes. And I'm really glad I did. Yes. Because it is so freaking good. So Harrison Ford. That's it. That's all you need to say. Helen Mirren. Oh yeah. It is. awesome. And I mean that both in the like, sense of like, oh, this is really good. This is awesome. But also like, it is literally awesome in the way they portray this world. It is a terrific story. and it's brutal. A lot of people didn't like 1883 because it was brutal. I didn't feel that way. Brutal is fine, I don't mind that. If you don't, then don't be watching period pieces. Yeah, period westerns, right. But also there was some white savior stuff. Anyway, long story short, I think 1923 has fixed all of the problems I had with 1883 in terms of the story and the acting. Again, better picks. Sam Elliott in 1883 was great. Tim McGraw didn't do it for me. Not a good pick. The actors in 1923 are almost universally terrific. every single character. I'm not all the way through it. I'm not all the way through it yet. I am, I think, about three quarters of the way through it, and we've still got some separate threads. We're starting to see convergence on the threads. We're starting to see the indications of a pending convergence on the threads, but It is, oh, it's got to, there's one part of the story I don't like. Timothy Dalton, aka James Bond, is in this show. I didn't realize he was still alive. And there is a really weird storyline that Timothy Dalton is involved in and I don't like it and I wish they didn't do it. So that's my one objection to this. If you watch it or if you have watched it, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I just don't fuck, I don't get it. I don't like it. It's not realistic. It's icky. and I wish they would get rid of it. But, man, I thought he was dead. He was the worst James Bond. No, Timothy Dalton's underrated. He was the worst James Bond. Don't at me. Yeah, anyway. It's great. 1923 is great, minus the weird Timothy Dalton storyline. Worst James Bond? Yeah, and actually, he's a good actor in it. I don't mind his acting. Timothy Dalton is great. He was the worst James Bond. I do not like the storyline that they do with him. There's a weird thing, again. I'm not gonna spoil it, but if you've seen it, you know exactly what I'm talking about, and I just do not like it at all. I wish it wasn't there. But other than that, yeah, 1923. Love it, that's my other thing. Andrew. All right. Anything else you wanna add before we hang up on these people for the night? I think that we can probably be done. All right. Hey, guys. Thanks for joining us for this episode of 40 and 20, The Watch Clicker Podcast. We're called the Watch Clicker Podcast because our home is the website watchclicker.com. See, that was ad libbed. That's not written down anywhere. Not even listening. That's where we post articles and reviews and other fun watch things. If you want to follow us on social media, you can do that on Instagram at watch clicker or at 40 and 20 underscore watch clicker. We sometimes post pictures. I posted a picture. 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