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The Grey NATO – 354 – A Brand New Omega Planet Ocean And Trip Reports

Published on Thu, 20 Nov 2025 06:00:00 -0500

Synopsis

In episode 354 of The Graynado podcast, co-hosts Jason Heaton and James Stacy discuss their recent travels and new watches in the industry. James shares his experiences from a 10-day trip to Switzerland for Blancpain and watch auctions in Geneva, followed by his current stay in Miami for Omega's Planet Ocean launch. Jason recounts his expedition with Oceana to the Channel Islands off California's coast, including diving at the remote Cortez Bank and meeting celebrities Cobie Smulders and underwater photographer Renee Capozola. The hosts dedicate significant time to discussing Omega's newly released fourth-generation Planet Ocean, analyzing its design changes, sizing improvements, removal of the helium escape valve, and its $8,600-9,500 price point. They also promote their collaboration with Tactile Turn on a limited-edition titanium pen available until November 30th.

Transcript

Speaker
Jason Heaton Hello and welcome to another episode of The Graynado, a loose discussion of travel, adventure, diving, driving, gear, and most certainly watches. This is episode 354 and it's proudly brought to you by the always growing TGN supporter crew. We thank you all so much for your continued support. And if you'd like to support the show, please visit thegraynado.com for more details. My name is Jason Heaton and I'm joined as ever by my friend and co-host. And traveling man, James Stacy. James, today finds you in Miami, a far cry from Switzerland, where you were a few days ago.
James Stacy Yeah, I've been traveling a ton, and I'm actually recording this from my hotel room in Miami. So if the audio quality is not perfect, bear with me. Doing my best, but I'm not on the normal microphones. But I want to get into a little rundown of my trip, and I want to hear everything about yours, Jason. But let's get into the tactile turn TGN pen first, because we're down into roughly only a week or so left to order.
Jason Heaton Yeah, definitely. We're closing out the ordering window for our collaboration with Tactile Turn on November 30th. And judging from some commentary around Slack, these appear to be kind of a hot commodity, a great item. And Tactile Turn's a longtime favorite of ours, and we're really pleased to be collaborating with them. So this is our side click pen that they've created for us. It's a machined stonewashed titanium barrel on this with the dazzle camo pattern in orange on the clip, which deliberately echoes the dazzle camo pattern. that was designed by Evan at stay calm industries for our CWN one watch packaging earlier this year. Um, it's a side click pen and on the, on the barrel, it's, it's engraved, uh, T uh, TGN, uh, CPN one kind of our own little sort of, uh, acronym for, for the gray NATO crew pen. Number one. It takes a Pilot G2.7 millimeter ink refill, so a commonly found refill. So you can have this thing for many, many years and just swap out the insert when you need to. The pricing is $139, which is certainly pricey for a pen, but this is kind of one of those buy once, cry once items. Really high quality. We're really pleased with this. And they're already shipping. So, again, we've got until November 30th to kind of close this out. And then after that, we're done. So no more will be made. And if you want to get in on that, you can check it out at the Tactile Turn website. We'll throw a link in the show notes. And excited to get these in people's hands and get them out in the field for use.
James Stacy Absolutely. Yeah, I'm very excited. Mine shipped the initial order that I made has shipped. So I should see them in time for Thanksgiving, which is great. And if you're listening to this right when it comes out, you've got 10 days left. It's been a super successful program. So a big thank you to everybody who's picked up and ordered a pen. And if you're on the fence and want to get it done, you've got a few days left. So thanks very much for that. And yeah, why don't we get into us a little bit of trip report. I'm just in a hotel room, kind of in a afternoon break between stuff for the Omega launch for the new Planet Ocean. So I spent the morning kind of seeing and photographing the watch and talking to people, you know, responsible for putting it into the market and seeing that watch change over kind of its largest change since it came out nearly 20 years ago. It's hard to believe that was 20 years ago, but apparently that's what Omega's saying. I'm not going to call their bluff, so...
Jason Heaton Yeah, I always pin the Planet Ocean launch right around the Casino Royale release, which was 2006, and that was when I caught the bug. So, yeah, it's a watch that is near and dear to my heart, and I'm watching with interest, and we'll get into it in a bit here. For sure. Yeah, how was the rest of your travels over to Switzerland? You were there for Blancpain, right? Yeah.
James Stacy Yeah, so I was there for 10 days total. So it was a couple of days with Blancpain. I got to go up to Lausanne. I was staying in Lausanne and visiting their atelier in Le Brassus. So that watch comes out later this month. Not the most TGN of watches, but some of you may be interested in it. So stay tuned for that story. And then, yeah, as far as like the greater trip report for me, it was a long trip, but I didn't really get up to anything that I think would be... you know, like especially interesting to this crowd or in many ways really interesting to my personal interests at large. You know, it was a work trip for Hodinkee and I spent a few days with Andy Hoffman and, you know, the throngs of other people in Geneva for the auctions, you know, Phillips and Christie's and Sotheby's and Anticorum and all that kind of stuff. And I think anybody who listens to the show a lot will know that like, you know, I'm kind of indifferent to the auction world. Uh, it's not a world in which I play or really see a lot of appeal.
Jason Heaton Yet. You got to say yet after the end of statements like that.
James Stacy Okay. Well, uh, yet. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, it's, I guess for me, like it's, I kind of, I enjoy it for cars. Like you watch it on the internet on a Saturday morning, you watch a couple of lots or something, you see some cool cars roll by. And I think that's about all I like from the watch standpoint as well. The real like nitty gritty of it really turns what I like about watches into being basically just about money. And it doesn't affect me in any way that I care about. You know what I mean? It's not the way that my nerd and nerdery for the watch world is kind of coded. So I did a few days of that. I had a couple of days of kicking around Geneva, caught up with Cole Pennington. I got to go have a burger up on top of a mountain and hit a couple of great breweries for some solid beers and that sort of thing. And yeah, and then I just stuck through the week and stayed for the Thursday night event, which was the GPHG. Obviously something I think a lot of us, myself included, have seen from afar, this sort of big production award show for a piece of the watch industry. Got to see it in person. You know, I think in the past I have been a little bit critical of the GPHG, and I really don't feel that differently now. They threw a really good event. There were some technical issues that kind of changed the tenor of the event. They kept announcing the winners when they meant to announce the people who were coming up to announce the nominees. They did it like several times. Oh, no. which kind of took the wind out of the sails, including like for the Aguita or the big prize. But yeah, you know, I think it's an award show, but it doesn't include huge pieces of the industry, including some of the most respected and beloved brands, Rolex, Patek. And then, you know, it is sort of pay to play is the wrong way to look at it, but you do have to essentially pay to have your watch. put into the nomination pool, and then it kind of moves up through the ranks if people like it. So I think for some of the small brands that are involved with this, it's quite a great moment. You know, seeing Denison win is kind of fun and that sort of thing. But, you know, I think if you've seen it on the live stream and that sort of thing, then it's sort of covered. I would love to see them sort of... open up the scope of the event. But yeah, that's sort of the very quick rundown of my 10 days in Geneva. It was mostly just sort of bouncing back and forth between auctions and trying to do the day job, like the normal day job that I'd be doing if I was sitting in my basement back in Toronto. and then sticking around for the GPHG. I got a couple of really good hangouts with Andy Hoffman, which is a real treat. Shout out to Andy. He made me and a few other fellows some chicken wings at his house, which was a delight. So yeah, it was a pretty fun trip. I had a good time, but it was also a really long time away. You know, son's four months old. You know, it's a time of year where it's kind of nice to be home and kicking around. uh, the homestead and with the family, but yeah, got, uh, got back for the weekend and then jumped on a plane Monday morning to come here for, uh, for the planet ocean launch. But we can, like you said, we can get into that, uh, in a moment. Cause you've also been traveling quite a bit.
Jason Heaton Yeah. It was kind of weird to kind of see what you were up to. Well, what I was up to was, it was entirely different and it was, it was just so surreal that, you know, we recorded last week's episode. We had to kind of thread the needle between, between your trips or before your trip long travels. And then to think that you were, uh, flying home the same day I think I was and then had to turn around again. It was just, it was crazy world we live in. But, um, yeah, it sounds like your, your travels were, were so varied and so different. And I, I think, you know, I, I kind of agree with you on the auction side of things.
James Stacy I'm, I don't, I understand why it's important to some people and it's like, it's their thing, but those people are dealers or collectors. I'm never really going to be either. Yeah. And I think the auction that probably would have been the most interesting for me is like some of the stuff at Anticorum is like in a price point where I could play and learn and have fun in the auction. And I just, you know, Anticorum, you know, just didn't stack up to the kind of glitz and glamour of some of the lots that were being offered at Phillips and Sotheby's especially. So that's where the story went because that's where we were writing coverage.
Jason Heaton Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my trip was a little less, let's say a little more rustic than yours. Let's call it that. Look, we've had a couple of episodes in the past where I've kind of given the download from the previous two expeditions that I did with Oceana, the international kind of lobby and policy and science, kind of environmental science group. This was the third and final expedition to the Channel Islands off the coast of California that were underwritten by Blancpain. And it was largely the same crew of science divers and topside support folks and even the crew on the boat, as I've been with the past two expeditions last year, back in April and September of 2024. And so it had been over a year since I'd been with these folks. And the reason that it took so long is because after the September expedition last year, um, you know, they were talking to the folks on the peace boat, which is the boat that we chartered for this, these expeditions. And, and they had suggested that, that for this year, the, the water conditions, the diving conditions are, are often very good in November. The water's a little warmer, it's a little clearer and, and you get some more opportunities to see some, some different sea life. And so they took that chance. And, and so that's why we waited until November. And it was really worth it. We had some amazing experiences, including getting out to this very remote, I don't even know if you'd call it a diving location. It's actually an underwater shelf of land that rises up from 6,000 feet to just a few feet below the surface. There's no... land, per se, out there. There are no islands or anything like that, but this is called Cortez Bank, and people might have heard of it because there have been some fairly well-known shipwrecks, ships that have run aground there, as well as, more famously, the elusive 100-foot wave... that big wave surfers crave. And, and there've been some, you know, giant wave riding going on out there. And it's such a wild place because you, we had to motor, you know, 12 hours through the night to get there and then woke up in the morning and there's, it's like, we're here. And you look out around and. you're in the middle of the ocean, you know? And it's, so it's a, it's 110 miles offshore from, from California and it's, it straddles the, the Mexico US border, maritime border.
James Stacy Kind of reminds me of the boiler out in, uh, out in Socorro.
Jason Heaton Except this is, I don't know how long it is. Uh, the boiler is kind of, I guess it's not a point. This is kind of a long shelf that has various, um, kind of rock out crops and things like that. But. It had been kind of a dream to dive out there of several folks on the boat, including mine, kind of had this mythical reputation. And it really requires perfect conditions to not only motor out there in a boat the size that we were on, as well as, you know, I mean... you know, a place that's known for a hundred foot waves, you know, is not a place that you want to go diving. So you have to wait for pretty flat sea conditions, not only to get there, but also to dive there. And then, you know, given how remote it is, there's a safety element to it that if anything goes wrong, you're a very long way from help. And so the captains of the boat and the crew, we all sort of... put our heads together and they decided, okay, it's now or never. And so we went out there last Wednesday and just had an amazing day of diving. It was just spectacular, you know, hundred plus foot visibility, tons of sea life, lots of color, a bit surgy and some current, but nothing that wasn't manageable. And it just made the whole trip worth it. I mean, we spent the previous couple of days diving around Santa Barbara Island, which was nice as well. But to get out to Cortez was a real dream come true. Very cool. And then on Thursday, after Cortez Bank, we had to motor back again through the night back to Catalina Island, which is a better known dive location and vacation spot for Southern Californians. um, we were there to, to kind of rendezvous with a couple of VIPs or celebrities that, that Blancpain had organized. And one of whom was, uh, Kobe Smulders, who's an actress, um, who's, uh, starred in the, the, the, the TV series, um, how I met your mother. And then I recognized her from shrinking the more recent series with Harrison Ford. Um, and, uh, so she's in that show and that she's been in a couple of Marvel movies as well. And lo and behold, just a shout out. She's from, she's from Vancouver. I learned that from her. Um, we talked a little bit about, you know, Vancouver and that you're from there and, or lived there rather, and that I'd been out there. Um, and then Renee Capozola joined us as well. And she's a, Oh, very nice. Award winning underwater photographer that won an underwater photography award back in 2021. And that Blancpain had underwritten. And, um, so she's a bit of an ambassador for them.
James Stacy Yeah, I did a chat with Rene in New York a couple years back, like a panel discussion at the Blancpain boutique.
Jason Heaton Oh, nice. Yeah, very talented, very nice person. So they kind of motored out in a water taxi from Avalon on Catalina and joined us on the boat. And Kobe has done some diving, and so she got in the water and did some diving right there off of Casino Point on Catalina. And it was a really beautiful day and got to kind of see some of the science that was happening on the peace boat with Oceana. And other than that, it was just a lot of these science dives with... Some divers doing survey transects where they're kind of running up and down a 100-foot tape measure along the seafloor and inventorying different critters and organisms and things. And then another group doing what's called environmental DNA collection where you collect water from both shallow spots while you're diving and then deeper spots offshore by lowering a big kind of contraption over the side of the boat down to 300-plus feet to collect seawater. And then they filter it and then collect the DNA of all the... organisms that have passed through that water and even from the first two expeditions last year that data has has netted and get this this is a very big number 12 000 unique species um whoa that that have you know that exist or have existed in the in the waters of that that around the channel islands and so they're they're putting all of that to to use in their kind of policy making um uh endeavors to kind of you know get some marine protections in place and things like that off the coast so uh all in all it was it was a great trip i had one snafu my uh on the third day i believe it was my uh my the boot of my dry suit tour um and you know made it pretty much impossible to dive with it so fortunately one of our safety divers had a a wetsuit that fit me. So I was in a wetsuit for the rest of the trip, which was fine. Cause it was, it was reasonably warm water. So that worked out fine. And then, you know, for, for, uh, the watch on the watch interest side of things, I had two pretty special watches with me. I had the, um, the 50 fathoms tech Gombessa. that was loaned to me to take along from, from Blancpain. Came on a very long, lovely supple rubber strap. I've got it actually, when we get into wrist check, that's what I'm wearing today. It's, it's the watch that was first introduced in French Polynesia a couple of years ago. And, um, it's just a, it's just an amazing watch and everybody loved to strap it on and take it diving. And we've got loads of photos of it underwater and stuff. And then most of the dives, I actually wore my Swatch Scuba 50, the Blancpain collaboration piece on a NATO strap. And, you know, I posted a picture on Instagram and I think, you know, a watch that doesn't have a screw-in crown, you know, is a $450 dive watch in pretty modest proportions and capabilities on paper. You know, you might wonder how it's going to do in kind of surgy on and off boats in cold water.
James Stacy um did just fine i mean obviously it didn't leak it didn't uh you know it didn't even really get scratched up at all um so i was quite quite pleased i felt pretty smug wearing that that little that little piece uh out diving for all those days yeah very cool man sounds like a pretty good trip how was um how the the diving i mean aside from some calamity with uh with a torn torn dry suit and that sort of thing the diving was good lots of like visibility was good any good wildlife sightings that sort of thing
Jason Heaton Yeah, we had some really amazing interactions actually on the first day. I think it was even the first dive with just loads of sea lions. There were just probably a dozen juvenile sea lions just flying all around us, coming up to the camera, brushing against you, kind of doing their underwater sort of mock threat thing where they open and close their mouths right in front of you and blow bubbles. Um, at one point, one thing that the Oceana crew likes to do is they have one of these 360 degree video cameras that they put on a tripod on the seafloor and have it recorded during the dives. And then they'll post, post these, the footage on YouTube. And then if you watch with like a VR, um, goggles or something, it's very immersive. You feel like you're actually there, you know, diving on these sites and looking at the footage from one of the, one of our dives, um, a sea lion actually came in and put its entire mouth around the 360 degree camera. It was just such cool footage to see this big toothy mouth kind of chomped down on the camera. It was really neat. So the sea lions were a highlight. And then we saw lots of just the biggest lobster I've ever seen. Oh, wow. And then one of the fish that used to be quite plentiful out there that isn't so much anymore is the giant black sea bass. And these are huge, huge fish. They're much bigger than a person. The one that somebody else saw that I didn't see, he said it was the size of a Volkswagen, which was kind of the old comparison that people used to use, presumably like a beetle or something. He saw that, and then I got to see a smaller one, but it was still a thrill to see because they're quite rare out there now. So we saw those and sea lions and lobsters and all sorts of cool creatures, and then super pods of dolphins and things jumping alongside the boat. So it was just a lovely trip.
James Stacy That sounds awesome, and I'm really glad that it all worked out. And then you went back to the mainland and scooted home pretty quickly from there. You've been home for a few days?
Jason Heaton Yeah, I came home on, let's see, we motored back to Ventura Harbor, which is where the peace boat's based, on Friday. And we were going to do some dives Friday morning, but this weather system moved in. That's actually been in the news the past few days. California just got dumped on with huge rainstorm, you know, mudslides and high winds and lots of rain. And it just didn't make for good diving conditions. So we skipped the diving that day and just motored back. i was a little concerned about getting home on saturday but the flights were fine and i i got home saturday night and i've been here ever since it's good to be home and dry and um you know not sleeping in a little coffin-sized berth below deck sure on the boat and kind of constantly damp and living in close quarters for for an introvert living with 15 people in a tiny little space is can have its challenges but it's a good group of folks and uh all went really well so i was kind of sad to see that this was the the third and final of of these expeditions and hopefully, uh, you know, uh, either Blancpain or, or another underwriter will come through and maybe re up for some future stuff. Cause I'd love to do it again.
James Stacy Yeah, that's very cool. And I'm glad you got a chance to connect with Renee and obviously Kobe Smulders, if you're a How I Met Your Mother or a Shrinking fan, is quite a presence. And did you know that was happening or was that something closer to a surprise?
Jason Heaton I knew they were meeting up with a few folks to kind of a VIP or Celebrity Day or what have you. And they've done it in the past as well. And it's a bit of a dog and pony show that... is necessary in this day and age of, you know, raising funds for nonprofits and things. And so it was, it was all very pleasant. Kobe was a delightful person as was Renee. And it was a beautiful day for, for diving there at Catalina. So it was nice. It was, it was quite a change though, to be way out at, at. uh, Cortez bank on Wednesday and then, you know, go to bed after this thrilling day of diving in this remote place. And then literally waking up the next morning, I came above deck and looked out the back of the boat and there's casino point, which if, if anyone's been there and knows this place, it's this old, you know, beautiful, big old casino. That's right at the tip of Avalon there, right by the dive site. And it seems just so weird to be back in civilization after kind of being away for three days. So, but yeah, it was great.
James Stacy Good fun. That's cool. Catalina is a neat spot. Yeah. I've never really ever been, I've been there a couple of times and didn't dive. I wasn't, I wasn't there with anyone else, uh, who was certified. Uh, but it always looked like it would be pretty good kind of interesting diving the way that it comes up out of the water. Yeah. Um, out there off the coast of LA. So that's pretty cool. And you get gear of Baldy and like some kind of interesting sort of characterful sort of fish out there as well.
Jason Heaton Yeah, it is. It is a lovely spot and it makes me want to go back and, um, It's not even diving related, but there's the Trans Catalina Trail, which I think some people backpack and then a lot of people will do on a bicycle and whatever. The island itself is supposed to be quite a place, so I'd love to go back and do that someday.
James Stacy All right. Well, there you go. That's a little bit of a download from both of our trips. I'm not sure two trips could be much more different. Although, you know, I had a small Airbnb in Geneva, probably multiple the square footage of your birth on the boat. But, man, I'm glad you had a good time. And, yeah, I guess that does kind of close out the trilogy for that experience. But who knows what's on the horizon. But a pretty cool thing. And, I mean, I guess you spoke a little bit about the watch already, but you've got the 50 Fathoms Tech Gumbass on for today's wrist check.
Jason Heaton I do, yeah. My carriage is about to turn back into a pumpkin because I'll have to send that back one of these days here this week. You know, even if I'm quiet about it, I'm sure they'll be wondering where it is if I don't send it back. They might notice, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's just, it's such an awesome watch. And I think it's kind of fun to be wearing it when we're talking about the new Planet Ocean today. They're kind of the, I guess the... top of the heap, the, you know, whatever they call apex predators of the dive watch space from these two brands. And, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's quite a thing. I mean, also it's, it's funny. I, I, a lot of these Oceana, uh, science divers, they aren't watch people, you know, God bless them. Um, and you know, I had to kind of explain a kind of how traditional dive watch works with the 60 minute bezel, but then this one has a three hour. bezel with that extra hand for, for tracking kind of CCR, uh, rebreather diving. And, you know, to kind of explain that and then to dive with it, it's not quite as useful as a 60 minute bezel on a dive watch, but it sure, it sure is a fantastic piece. And it's, it was really fun to have.
James Stacy Yeah. That's awesome. Well, I'm glad you got a chance to spend some time with it. That's one that like, I've gone back to Mark's story that he wrote when it came out. Cause I never saw that watch in person. I've just seen his photos on, on Hodinkee. Uh, so I'm glad that you got a chance to, uh, to check it out. That's a good one.
James Stacy Yeah.
James Stacy And then, yeah, for me today, I don't have an Omega in the quiver these days as it is. So I brought the CWC, CWN1. I figured it's the closest thing I had to an Omega, you know, MOD-derived dive watch design. Yeah. And also from a brand that wasn't going to, you know, bother anybody at Omega, you know, CWC keeping a pretty low profile. Yeah. Yeah. Compared to, you know, one of the largest watch brands in the world. But yeah, I flew down to, I mean, we've known about this watch for a little while under embargo. It's also kind of leaked a couple of times on the internet in various, you know, now we can go back if you want to and see how accurate it was. But yeah, they're calling this the fourth generation Planet Ocean. In my mind, there weren't that many gens, but to be fair, that does make sense because it would have been the 2,500. the 8500, the 8900, and now the new 2025 model, which is an 89. It's still an 89 model, but is a huge departure from what we saw come out in 2016 or so for the Gen 3.
Jason Heaton Yeah, and I think visually the previous generations felt more like iterative evolutions. This definitely feels more like a revolutionary kind of sea change, to use an oceanic sort of pun there. But yeah, it definitely feels like a real reboot for the watch.
James Stacy Yeah, I would agree. You know, I saw the photos that, and you can see the story on Houdinki now, I will have a hands-on from my experience here in Miami, you know, in the next two weeks, I guess. And it is a big departure. The dial, the hands, the markers, that sort of thing, I think that's the most conventionally Planet Ocean part of it. But everything beyond the dial is kind of a major departure from the original design. We have a bezel that's much more kind of ploprof. In its design and styling, you have a case that feels much more angular, much more modern, much more – I would say just a huge departure from what they established 20 years ago in 2005. But, yeah, look, I've got a ton of kind of ideas, and I know maybe we're doing one of – what do we used to call that? On paper, on wrist? Yeah. Because you've seen the stories in the release today. I've spent the morning kind of actually holding and playing with the watch. Do you want to run people through the basic specs just in case they don't want to pull up a hooding key on another tab on their phone or whatever if they're driving, for example?
Jason Heaton All right, yeah, so this is a 42-millimeter case on this one in stainless steel with a grade 5 titanium case back and a ceramic bezel insert. So, you know, you might remember 42 millimeters was one of the sizes of several generations of Planet Oceans, but this one is slimmed down, you know, much to many people's joy, it seems, to a thickness of 13.79 millimeters. definitely like a two millimeter shrinkage from what the previous ones were. Lug to lug, it's 47 and a half millimeters. You get a black matte dial with matte white or matte orange varnished Arabic numerals, rhodium plated indices with the white superluminova. And so it's white superluminova with blue for the hour and seconds hand and then the green for the minute hand and matches the bezel pip as people like for diving. Water resistance stays the same at 600 meters, kind of the standard for the planet ocean as it has been for 20 years now. And then the strap and bracelet, the bracelet is a polished and brushed affair, which is going to be a bit polarizing. It's got the polished center links with Omega's patented screw and pin bracelet system. and an extendable fold over rack and pusher with a long dive extension and it's a 21 millimeter lug width so again kind of an odd size but you know not unusual for omega necessarily and then it can also be had with a black or an orange rubber strap which has kind of that polished and brushed stainless steel link to to attach it to the case like we're seeing on some watches these days I think one significant thing about this watch that people will note and possibly rejoice over is they removed the helium release valve. So no longer is there that external helium release crown on the 10 o'clock position. All right. And inside this watch is the coaxial master chronometer caliber 8912 without a date. And it's got a power reserve of 60 hours and it beats at 25,200 vibrations per hour. So it's a Metis chronometer certified movement with silicon balance. So, you know, largely anti-magnetic. You know, you have to go to great lengths to get any magnetism to affect it. And price-wise, the black and blue models are $9,200 on the bracelet. $8,600 on a rubber strap and the orange model is $9,500 on the bracelet and $8,600 on the strap. So that's kind of the rundown on paper. What do you want to tell us about this in person?
James Stacy Yeah, so I think obviously there's kind of a lot going on with this. The first three generations, which we outlined previously, the first two, the home was 42 millimeters. So with the third gen, the predominance of the models were 43, 43.5 millimeters, that sort of thing. So this model does strike when it's compared against the watches that it will now be phasing out. And to my knowledge, what they've told us here is... they will be phasing out all of the previous generation, the third gen models in their entirety and basing everything moving forward from the Planet Ocean on this three model sort of, or three colorway single model sort of run that they had established today. And... I think for me, it's some good things and some things that I think will have to play out. And a lot of it, I'm kind of impressed by Omega because they took a stance. Whether it's the stance that you like is totally up to you. Thank goodness there's a lot of dive watches, including... 20 years of Planet Ocean models on the market if you don't want the fourth gen. We'll get to the price in a moment because I think that requires some context and it's definitely high, but it is also 2025. And this is a line of watches that started when Omega was kind of a different company than they are now in terms of their market position. So you have to deal with some of that as well. I think the stuff I really like is the sizing. uh the 42 uh 13.8 47.5 especially on the rubber strap i haven't been able to try one on the bracelet sized the bracelet is quite nice it's sort of a flat link style the polished element is going to be super divisive it's one of the main things that we're already seeing in the comments um about the watch uh i i don't it's not the kind of thing that would be a deal breaker for me if i really loved a watch i would have the the links brushed who cares yeah it's like really loving a certain car and then being like oh those tires don't do it for me or those wheels even Yeah. Like it's a changeable element. But I do I like the dial design. I like quite a bit. I like that they're starting off with a no date. I like that they're maintaining the 600 meters. It's still I think it still looks and feels like an Omega. It just feels a lot less like a Planet Ocean than I expected. Yeah. Which, for me, as someone who really wasn't a fan of the last couple generations, I thought the 2500 series first gens in 42 were really cool, especially on rubber. They wore really well. They felt really modern. But they also came from a time before Tudor went nuts with the Pelagos and the Black Bay, right? Yeah. In 2005 versus, say, 2012. Yeah. And the dial design's really sharp. The bezel, I really like, but I also have to admit that it's a huge departure from what was established. I like that they kind of put a Ploprof bezel on this watch. I was always sort of a fan of the very technical, sort of modern... artful style of the planet ocean bezel but this adds some width and some bulk that makes this feel a little bit more like it has the the sort of proportions the dial to bezel proportions of a classic dive watch which again i like but i have to at the same time say it's a weird it's a bit of a departure from their modern dive watch You know what I mean? Yeah. Because this is still a brand that offers a few other dive watches in the Seamaster family, all of which have very strong pinnings to either a design from 95 or a design from like 1967. And I think that they're really playing the field with like, what can we draw in and try on and fit to this case in the bezel? If you don't like it, I get it. I'm kind of somewhere in the middle in terms of I think it feels really well made. It looks, I think, looks pretty good. It just, it's hard to contextualize it as a Planet Ocean. Like for me, like the PO came out in 05. I got really into watches by the time the 2500C started to be around on Watch You Seek. So that's maybe 2007, 2008. Yeah. And these were just absolute dream watches. They were a few thousand dollars. Yeah. And I had always intended on getting the sort of Bond spec black dial gray bezel. I still think it's a cool watch. It's one I would still like. I was always thrilled watching Top Gear to see Jeremy Clarkson wearing his Planet Ocean on the black rubber. And, you know, these are just watches that have meant a lot to me in the modern scope. And I think a lot of my love for that watch and that design and that ethos kind of transitioned to the Pelagos in recent years.
Jason Heaton Yeah, I could see that.
James Stacy As the Planet Oceans became 44 millimeters and 18 millimeters thick for the GMT and that kind of thing. So I think the sizing feels like a return to like normal. Like we know that this is still a burly sort of 600 meter dive watch, but we're intending people to wear it.
Jason Heaton Yeah, I'm looking at the photos as you're talking and I've been looking at them for the past couple of hours and I feel like this is a watch that will grow on me. I don't find it overly offensive. I'm not like, wow, they really ruined it. It was a bit jarring when I first saw it. It felt a bit like... It's so different. Yeah, it's so different. And as someone whose first luxury watch was that first generation Planet Ocean in 2007 or whatever... you know, it's still near and dear to my heart. I would still love a 2500 series. I just thought they were so great. But times have changed. And I think, you know, in terms of kind of the pros of this one, aesthetically, I agree with you. I quite like that wider bezel. I think it just has this beefy technical look with the engraved numerals and the full hash marks around. And it's really nice. It makes the watch look like it would be a bigger watch than it is. And the fact that it's shrunk down, it's kind of a neat offset to that um i think yeah you know i saw in the one of the comments on hodinky one of the early comments was you know it looks like a zenith defy you know the angularity of it is it does is what has a little bit of that a little jarring to me and i i I also saw, if you squint, it almost has, you know, I think this is a big sort of credit to, and not a dig against Citizen, but it almost has that Citizen Series 8 look to it, especially on that flat length bracelet. It kind of looks more integrated into the case than the older bracelets. So the bracelet I'm not a fan of. I'm not a fan of that rubber strap. I'm such a fan of the early Planet Ocean rubber straps. I think that was a high point for Omega. And I think one of the things that... Just a quick comment also on the helium release valve. I was never really a huge fan of helium release valves in general. I mean, you're on record being a negative, like a non-fan. But on their kind of...
James Stacy This is a weird watch to remove.
Jason Heaton It is, yeah, especially since it remains on the shallower diving, if you will, kind of more dressed diver, 300 meter.
James Stacy The less technical.
Jason Heaton But I guess, not in closing, but I guess one thing that does occur to me on kind of a high level is... Omega, to their credit, they have not been a brand that has just leaned really heavy into nostalgia. I mean, they've done it on a few. Certainly the kind of the Seamaster 300, you know, the one that kind of really looks like the 50s one from the trilogy collection, et cetera, does. But they haven't been afraid dating way back to like 1970. to take some chances with the Seamaster line. And I think that can be divisive for people. I think some people don't like that. They want a more nostalgic looking Seamaster. But if you look at some of the Seamasters that came out, you know, the Big Blue and the, you know, of course the Ploprof and just some of these oddball, you know, the baby Ploprofs and things, they've always taken some chances with the Seamasters. And some people like them, some people don't. And then eventually people come around and they become collectible in 30 years or whatever. And I think this will age pretty well, actually, and I think it will continue to grow on me, and I can't wait to see one in person.
James Stacy The thing that kind of stands out for me that are kind of an unknown is, like I said, I didn't get a chance to try the bracelet sized. I was hoping they might have some screwdrivers around and we could figure that out, but it didn't work out. So instantly, I prefer the rubber, not necessarily because of the way it looks. I actually think it would look pretty good on a rubber styled like the PO rubber previously, but it has this sort of faux center link rubber design. The strap itself is quite comfortable. At this price point, I think the clasp could probably benefit from some micro adjust. if you're paying the better part of 10 grand. So it's less than 10 grand, but it's still a ton of money. And sure, that's what Omegas can go for. It's a lot more than the PO was 20 years ago, but that would go for a lot of watches. I really did enjoy the way it felt on the rubber, but that could be just because it was sized. And then the other thing that's really an unknown for me is, you know, I have yet, because both the rubber and the bracelet use a fitted end link. Yeah. that really matches the very angular sort of contours of the case and almost mask and hide the shape, the H shape of the lugs. And it gives it even more of that Zenith or Grand Seiko feel. But look at the curve of the outside of each. end link that's sort of um against the curve of the bezel in terms of radius i think that's a very japanese line yeah in many ways so true and i think i i'm very very curious to see what this watch looks like off the bracelet whether it's on a nato or rubber strap like a standard you know, straight link rubber strap, like just a normal conventional strap because it has normal lugs, but this style of end link hides that and makes everything look integrated. And so that's, that's the next thing on, on my list is I'm sure. And I'm sure somebody, these are in stores the day they released. So by the time you're listening to this, somebody's bought them. Yeah. And I'm very curious to see what this looks like on a mesh. I think I know, I know not everybody on this call, Jason is a, you know, a big mesh fan, but, Again, a big bezel, a mesh on a Proloprof looks incredible. It's one of my favorite looks in that era of dive watches. I think it could be really cool. And I just am very, very curious to see what this looks like when the end link for the bracelet or the strap doesn't perfectly match these very complicated sort of contours and facets of the case. I think it might feel more like an Omega if it just had a rounded end link. Not rounded against the case, but rounded away from the case. Like if you look at the bracelet for Planet Ocean for the last 20 years, right? Yeah. They had sort of a smoothness to them rather than trying to find and pick up on these sort of more angular designs. I mean, the one that keeps coming to me in my mind in terms of a comparison might be lost on some of you, but I know some of you might agree or at least understand what I'm trying to say. Whether I'm wrong or not, we can hash it out in the Slack, but... For me, it feels like this is an R35 GTR, the modern Nissan sports car. And you can see the heritage of an R35 going back to the 34, to Godzilla, the 33, the 32, the Skylines. Looking back, you can see them, but they're different. There's a big leap. And I think for what this watch represents in the Planet Ocean line as that leap is probably what the 2005 one represented to Omega's dive watches.
James Stacy Yeah.
James Stacy Right? Because it would have been... 2254s and 2581s and that sort of thing. And then boom, you had this and it was just like, whoa, like I should go back. I should see how, if I could find out on the internet, like comments that people made in 2005 about the Planet Ocean in general. Yeah, I don't want to say I'm a mixed bag because I like the watch. I'm struggling without doing more research to really understand the price point. Yeah. I think that they probably just wanted to get as close to 10 grand as they could. But these, you know, look, the No Time to Die is a five-figure watch. So, like, we're not without this. I think we're seeing this from Omega. Obviously, this is that big jump up from a Tudor.
James Stacy Yeah.
Jason Heaton uh right and and i think that's the world that omega wants to play in and they're pricing themselves into a category it will be for a different audience than the 2500 was 20 years ago yeah that's so true and i think um i i felt like when the planet ocean came out i mean i was not paying attention in 2005 but it wasn't long after that when i was and i think um i've got the feeling that the that first generation planet ocean was kind of this tool watch answer to the Bond Seamaster, the kind of the Brosnan era Bond, and it fit the new ethos or aesthetic or whatever you will with Daniel Craig's Bond. I mean, he was the first Bond to kind of wear the Planet Ocean that kind of became the signature watch for the Casino Royale era. And this doesn't feel like that anymore. This doesn't feel like necessarily, just because of the polishing, the strap looks a little fancier, the applied numerals and indices, everything's just a little shinier. It doesn't quite have that toolish feel that the earlier generations did. And they've kind of progressively gotten further and further away from that. So I don't want to be the curmudgeon that compares this only to the very first one. I mean, I think we have to look at the more recent ones too.
James Stacy Yeah. And I would say like, allow me to be their curmudgeon if I can, because I have been, I don't want to say hard because I don't believe I have been hard on Rolex, but I've brought up the difference between the five digits and the six digit ethos. Yeah. The five digit being sort of the end of when these were professional watches, quote unquote, watches that people bought if they had gotten to a certain status in life and they just wanted a really good watch.
James Stacy Yeah.
James Stacy But they weren't necessarily buying it because it was flashy, hard to buy. the hype watch, that sort of thing. Like I'm not saying that Daytonas weren't always kind of difficult to buy or at times very collectible and that sort of thing. But if you look at a GMT Master or a 1406 OM or a 16570, they have an entirely different look and feel than what came out later. Actually, maybe with the exception of the Explorer II. They have kind of just made it bigger, but they've largely kept it feeling similar. But the Cerachrom bezels, the shinier... kind of finishing and that sort of thing. I think we're seeing that in Omega too, where from 2005 to now, that's your difference between a five digit and a six digit, right? Yeah. And this is clearly what, what this, what one of the biggest watch brands that knows its audience and has a much more generalist audience than this podcast or than people who read the internet of watches, right? I would say the circle is in the middle of a much larger circle.
James Stacy Yeah.
James Stacy If you imagine it that way. And I think that's maybe what people want to buy. I have a watch on that has a similar heritage, we'll say, in the CWC, in the CWN1, but there's no polish anywhere on it. And I think you can see a link back to the 2500s, but I also think that there will be a... A certain type of guy or gal, probably not dissimilar to the type of guy or gal that might be on the Slack or listening to this, that are now going to be checking eBay for 2,500 Ds. Yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. Just out of interest. What do you need to put down? And a quick Google put the Planet Ocean at 3,400 USD on a bracelet in 2005. Mm-hmm. which is a little shy of $6,000 if you just went off of inflation. I think you'd be at $5,600, $5,700, somewhere in there. So I think the rest is where we've seen. And look, this is something that has happened as long as we've been making the show. Very early on in TGN, we talked about how Omega was moving up market. So yes, these watches got more expensive, but I just think Omega got more expensive as they moved away from the space that they used to be in to kind of trail up towards a different sort of laddering in this watch group. And I'm not here to say that that's a bad thing. They are still selling a ton of watches, and that's arguably their goal, right?
Jason Heaton Mm-hmm.
James Stacy Yeah, the more time I spent with one of these on my wrist today or getting a chance to take photos, I really like it. I don't know that it's the version that I would want to buy. But I think as far as an evolution of, you know, the third generation, which I didn't like, I remember being very excited years and years ago at a Baselworld to see the GMT Planet Ocean.
James Stacy Yeah.
James Stacy And it was 43.5, which at the time was sort of just on the edge of big for me. Now it would be quite big for taste. But it was like, I don't want to be unfair, 17 and change millimeters thick. Yeah, you might not agree with the design. And for me, the thing that I know the least about and understand the least aesthetically is those end links. I'm very excited to see what this watch looks like, like I said, on a NATO, on something else, on a non-Omega strap. Because I think you might immediately go like, oh, there's my turned lugs. Yes, yeah. This makes more sense to me. There's something about what they've done with that. that end link and that that interior radius that kind of curves towards the center of the watch yeah that i think really changes how that case looks um and makes it seem like one big chunk like the defy like like something you might see from uh you know, a chunky Grand Seiko or something. In person, I think there's a little bit less of that impact. And this for me felt very Omega-y, if not especially Planet Ocean at the moment. I kind of think that my favorite part of it is the big wide bezel.
Jason Heaton Yeah, yeah.
James Stacy It's just a cool look.
Jason Heaton Yeah. It's in Submariner pricing territory, so you might be cross-shopping, so to speak. But it feels more youthful and sporty, especially with the orange and the blue. Of the three, I just keep coming back to the blue with the black dial. I just think that's a great look. That's the one, really? I've never been a huge fan of the orange numerals on the black dial. I mean, I think a lot of people do like that, and I know a lot of people do like that. But I don't know, the blue bezel with the black just has this... youthful sportiness to it. I'm with you. I would love to see this watch. Please do. As soon as you get the chance, bring your tool and bring a NATO. I want to see this thing on a gray. I want to see the blue bezel one on a gray NATO. I think that would change a lot of impressions for me. I think it would just mitigate some of the bling that I'm seeing with the bracelet and those end links.
James Stacy Yeah, I mean, you know, some people seem upset that the HEV's gone. That means nothing to me. Yeah. Unless you can absolutely have that position if you're a saturation diver. Otherwise, it's just, I think the only thing that I would even comment on is it's weird to remove it from this watch and not something else in the line first. Yeah, yeah. Like a less serious dressier diver. Right, right. This being the most serious version. But I like it without. You're saying it, you know, there's comments saying that the polished end links are, you know, terrible. I don't know about that. I don't think they suit the watch super well. I would go polished. I would go brushed. But also at this point, I probably wouldn't go with the bracelet. Yeah. Between the two. That's entirely up to you. And I, you know. If your core of that argument is you're lamenting that sport watches, even fairly intense sport watches, have gotten too shiny, I'm on board. Fair point. You won't get an argument from me. But I do think it kind of suits this watch and it's, you know... let's call it roughly $9,000 price tag and that sort of thing. A little more with the bracelet, of course. And yeah, for me, it's the double black, black bezel, black dial, but I would love to see them. And was kind of hoping that at some point they would go, oh, there's one more model in reference to the 25, you know, with the gray bezel. Oh, yeah. Which I think might, you know, imagine you do the gray bezel, maybe tones it down a little bit. But for me, the black, the black really just kind of did it. Yeah, this is a big leap for this fourth generation, where in some ways, I think you could almost see the last 20 years as one generation. I think it's helpful to split them up and divide them up because of different movements and that sort of thing. But really, with this going back to 42, I think this is going to be quite a successful... It's not their Pelagos. They didn't go that direction with it. But I think if their goal was to make a sub fighter, I think this one would be in the running for most people who don't have super, super strong opinions about polished links or an HEV or diehard fans of Gen 1, 2, 3 POs. I think that's probably the crowd that's going to have the most trouble with this. It's like if that was your daily for the last 20 years. And you're like, maybe I'm retiring. I got a bonus, something like that. I'm going to check something out new from Omega. And the guy at the store says, well, you should wait until November. Something's cool coming. And you go, OK. And then you load up a website today or load up Omega's website. And you go, how is this even a sibling? It's very different, aside from the dial, of course. But yeah, hopefully get a chance to spend more time with it, put different straps on it. It won't be immediately, but I've put out the feelers that I would love to take it diving. I tried to set up a dive for today, but they had a whole program together, so I can respect that, but would like to get it in the water sometime in the future. Yeah, I'm excited to see people making new dive watches, while this isn't one that I'm necessarily champing at the bit to pull the credit card out. uh i'm i really don't have a strong negative feeling about it aside from you know it i think it reflects the market position its pricing reflects omega's market positioning today and it's just simply a lot more dear than the watch would have been 20 years ago duh yeah that goes for a lot of things um all these things are more expensive but yeah i think it's a different proposition at you know if this was five six seven versus you know what it is here eight to nine right yeah
Jason Heaton Yeah, never a bad thing to get a new dive watch, especially one that comes out on the day that we record TGN. It's always just kind of exciting and fun to get to talk about it when it's really fresh like this. Yeah, I'll be curious to see what people think.
James Stacy Yeah, me too. I'm reading the comments. The majority of them, you can tell it's coming from a place of loving the PO and what it's meant to Omega for the last 20 years, which I can respect. And then the last thing I would add is, like we say with Tudor, If this isn't doing it for you, you might just have to wait. Omega's a skew-happy company. They will be doing a lot more versions of this. It wouldn't surprise me if we see a bigger and a smaller version. I think this watch could be legitimately... I mean, it's so cliche at this point, but at 38... Yeah. That small difference could really mean something. Maybe not. I didn't find the 42 to be big. It just didn't feel that big to me. Big with purpose, but not oversized. And then who knows if they do a 44, 45, if we see GMTs and chronographs. Think of all the stuff they've done in the past. That's the playbook. That's true. Yeah. And so, yeah, I'm excited to see it. The other thing that we can talk more about at some time in the future is, do you think this is the next Bond Omega?
Jason Heaton Yeah, I'm starting to feel that way. A lot of unknowns in the Bond world these days.
James Stacy Who knows, maybe Bond will wear an Amazon smartwatch. I have no idea. Please edit that out. But yeah, look, I'm pumped to be on a press trip for a real, like what I think is like a legit piece of product in the dive watch category. I understand that people feel strongly about these watches like they do when a new Submariner comes out or really a new anything that people really love. But I would say this is one, you know, if you can get to a boutique and check it out in person, it's a little bit, it feels more fully thought out on your wrist like any good watch will.
Jason Heaton Cool. Good impressions. Glad you were there to check it out. Yeah, me too. Great story, good photos. Hat tip to Mark for his write-up. and all that. And yeah, I'm sure by the time our episode goes up in less than two days, there will be a lot more comments, a lot more impressions on Slack as well and keep them coming.
James Stacy For sure. Yeah. You want to jump into some final notes and put a bow on it?
Jason Heaton All right, yeah, I'll go first. What I have is, you know, it comes from the Adventure podcast, which is something we've talked about in the past. Matt Pycroft is the host and kind of creator of that, and he's always got some interesting guests. And this episode came out a few weeks back, and it revolves around or interviews this pair of British twins, the Turner twins. They're identical twins, and their kind of niche is that they do these – kind of real-world experiments with themselves as the subjects, where one eats a certain diet and the other eats a different diet, and they kind of compare and things like that. With this one, their plan is to climb Everest, one with modern gear and one with the gear that George Mallory would have worn in the 1920s. and it's really quite a fascinating episode. It was recorded live, and they also had a product engineer or an executive, I can't remember which, from the clothing company Montane, which makes high-end, really good Alpine equipment and clothing. And they go in and they really talk about... pros and cons of the old gear. Leather and wool and cotton and whatever else these guys were wearing back in the 1920s versus modern down-filled suits and plastic mountaineering boots and things like that. I found the discussion really enlightening and quite interesting to hear. how, you know, in a high altitude kind of drier environment, the kind of obsession with being waterproof is not quite as important because, you know, the snow is very dry up there. You're not really getting wet other than, you know, your own sweat. So that's less important. It's more like the weight, you know, the light weight of newer equipment. um, just all those nuances and those things and kind of comparing the two and, and the approach that these guys took, um, to, to taking on this experiment in this project. And I just found it really great. So it's, it's the adventure podcast, um, uh, with, uh, with the Turner twins, um, all about, you know, climbing Everest with two different styles of, of radically different gear. So check it out.
James Stacy And, yeah, so I guess this actually puts me in a position to have two final notes. I'll move quickly here. But you sent me this podcast and a story linked to it because I sent you a video from Speed where James and Jesse and Zach camp with – they do multiple days in Yosemite with 100-year-old gear, then 50-year-old gear, then modern gear. Mm-hmm. and and kind of talk about what the difference is to like be hiking in it be cooking with it be sleeping in it all that kind of stuff and i i really enjoyed that video and of course it wasn't necessarily the world's most novel idea as people have been doing something similar like you just talked about in even harsher environments but uh it's it's a good time and i recommend checking that one out as well it's it's a good laugh and some of the old the really old food it's like hard tech is hilarious and that kind of thing that's great So I had a good time with that. But my pick this week is actually something I've had clipped to my bag for probably a couple years at this point, at least two. I think I got it as like a stocking stuffer a couple years back. So heads up for those of you looking to build out sort of a stocking stuffer scenario this year. And we'll have a little, you know, buyer's guide, Christmas gift guide episode coming up soon. But this is from one of our favorite brands, Night Eyes, and it's called the Cinch A Lot.
Jason Heaton Hmm.
James Stacy And I believe it comes in different sizes. I have sort of the smallest one, which includes a little locking S-beamer, like a plastic two-channel carabiner with a rotating lock in the middle. And then otherwise, it's just a round elastic rubber band with a metal slide on it. And it may not immediately seem useful, but having this just clipped to a bag and occasionally you have to put something in the bag or connect something to the bag.
James Stacy Mm-hmm.
James Stacy For the seven bucks, I kind of wish I had multiple of these on the bag. The easiest one to think about is I'll loop it over a water bottle, like just a plastic water bottle that I'm given on an airplane or something like that. It doesn't have to go in with all my gear where it could leak or cause a problem. And you can just loop this off and then use the little cinch to grab it around the neck. And that's just hanging on your bag and it's not going anywhere. I've done it with my phone. I've done it with like little DJI video cameras and that sort of thing. Just be like I only have one quick hand. You sit on there, cinch it, and you're done. I've done it with AirPods where like you can keep the case just kind of outside. It's this really handy, simple little thing. And it's one of those guys. I probably was just at a store that had a night eyes display and I bought 10 things. Yeah. And this, for whatever reason, I mean, I'm a real sucker for night eyes. Um, yeah, I like their stuff, but for whatever reason, this is the one that I kind of moved from one bag. I have S beaners on everything. I really like them and they're, they're fantastic things to give people. But as far as a weird little extra that I like quite a bit, and I don't think I've talked about it on the show. If I have, it's worth two final notes. I'm fine with that, is this cinch a lot. I've used it quite a bit over the last little while, and I just find it really helpful where you want to essentially tie something to a bag or clip something to a bag, but it doesn't have a lash point or you don't have paracord or whatever. And this gives you a lot more flexibility than needing, you know, a clip point for an S-beamer or something similar.
Jason Heaton Yeah. Yeah. This is great. I mean, this is the best kind of final note, you know, something useful that's $7.99. It's just great. Yeah. And I like Night Eyes a lot. We've covered them a lot. I've got Night Eyes dog gear. And I remember in the earliest days of the show, as you were talking about some of their stuff.
James Stacy Yeah. I love their cam jams, which again, it's like a system I'll use to hold a, you know, a sleeping bag or a jacket onto another bag. Yeah. Um, which is super useful. These are great. The, the, I've also used this central out for gloves. You can pop two gloves in them and then just cinch it down and clip it to a bag or to a, the outside of a jacket. Yeah. Um, which, which can be quite nice. They're just handy, simple things. And I get it. Like the night eye stuff is kind of nerdy, but it's the right speed sort of nerd for me. I like this, this company. And I can't imagine what it's kind of like in my mind, it's like working at Lego must be one of the best jobs. And I have one of the best jobs in the world.
James Stacy Yeah.
James Stacy Um, but you know, working at Lego, probably pretty cool working at night eyes and being like, Hey guys, I came up with this thing and we're going to take one of our espionage and then put like an elastic band with a little metal slide on it. You can just mount anything to anything and they're just like, all right, green light. Yeah. Right. Right. Um, so yeah, it's a, it's a good thing and it's useful and I wish I had bought more than one.
Jason Heaton All right. Well, great episode 354. We're talking Omega. We're talking Oceana and Blancpain and your trip to Miami and to Switzerland. But that's all the time we've got today. So as always, thanks so much for listening. If you want to subscribe to the show notes, get into the comments for each episode or consider supporting the show directly and maybe even grab a new TGN signed NATO, please visit thegraynado.com. Music throughout is Siesta by Jazzar via the free music archive.
James Stacy And we'll leave you with this quote as they've started vacuuming just outside the door of my hotel room. A quote from Jacques Cousteau who said, how inappropriate to call this planet Earth when it is clearly ocean.